Raghav_12 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 25-year-old marriage ends: Amit Shah cancels Mumbai trip, dumps Shiv Sena http://www.firstpost.com/politics/25-year-old-marriage-ends-amit-shah-cancels-mumbai-trip-dumps-shiv-sena-1729281.html New Delhi: Amit Shah has cancelled his visit to Mumbai today. A one line message to this effect was sent out by the party’s media department. This is a very clear indication that he does want to be part of any further negotiations with the Shiv Sena and the talks between the two parties, where both were playing tough are now unsalvageable. This means that at state level both the BJP and Sena, who have been 'ideological' allies for the last 25 years will conduct a very bitter campaign against one another in all 288 seats and enter into a fierce contest. The electoral outcome and the electioneering will both be very interesting, going by the heat and dust it could potentially generate. The brunt of the divorce, will be first felt by the Shiv Sena if things turn really bitter. They stand to lose control over the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC), which is India's richest and most powerful municipal body. The Sena rules the BMC in alliance with BJP and some other smaller groups. Amit-Shah-AFP (2) It's over: Amit Shah has pulled the plug - AFP At the national level, Shiv Sena may announce its exit from the NDA. If so, this will mean that the first ally to exit the ruling coalition within a mere four months of government formation, would ironically be the biggest and oldest. And that too over an issue which had to do more with the ego clashes of 'Gen Next' in both the BJP and Sena over who should occupy the chief ministerial chair. The move comes at a time when the Sena’s sole representative in the Union Cabinet, Anath Geete, who is the heavy industries and public enterprises minister, is playing an integral part in Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s grand launch of the 'Make in India' programme. Geete was sitting close to Modi on the dais at the launch function at Vigyan Bhawan in the Capital even as political equations took a new and sour turn. Now Geete may have to go. The only question is who takes the blame, Will it be the BJP or the Sena who announces the divorce? The Sena has 18 MPs in the Lok Sabha and three in Rajya Sabha. In back room negotiations it was reportedly offered more ministerial berths, possibly two in the next cabinet expansion. The larger impact of the Sena and BJP parting ways will be felt once the results of assembly elections are announced. Leaders of both the parties will be able to see exactly where it is they stand. Incidentally, by the time the two parties announce a severing of ties and get into a slanging match, Modi would have left for his much hyped US visit. The onus will be on party president Amit Shah to handle the situation. However he has already discussed the matter with Modi in all its possible details, sources said. The fact that Sena was not willing to climb down from its demand for 151 seats and that party president Uddhav Thackeray was not inclined to negotiate with anyone less than Shah and Modi had made it virtually impossible for the BJP to deal with him. The BJP leaders had also been agitated over the way Uddhav chose to depute his son Aditya to negotiate with senior BJP leaders including a seasoned Om Mathur. The BJP is blaming Uddhav and his inner circle of Sena leaders for the split. "Uddhav doesn't have a political mind. He is doing a long term damage to his party. You may see his party break into various factions and a good number of them moving to Raj Thackeray. Alliance with the BJP had made Sena a force to reckon with” a BJP leader said. However it's too early to make such judgments. The impact of the split will only be seen when the results of the assembly are announced. Does the severing of ties between the Sena and the BJP reflect on him and Amit Shah? The JD(U) was the first alliance partner to go and now the Sena is on the verge of following the suit, unless some unthinkable intervention takes places during the day. The BJP is completely dismissive of any such suggestion. "How does it reflect on Modi’s leadership? The Prime Minister and his team are making rapid strides", a party leader said. He then blamed Uddhav for everything from writing columns in Saamana at frequent intervals that were critical of top BJP leaders. In one fortnight he commented twice on Modi, and was critical and taunting. “Is that the way an ally behaves?”, he said. Shivsena tried to punch way above it's weight. I am sure they going to realize their fool-hardiness once election results come out. I think NCP-Cong alliance will fall apart as well. Biggest gainer of all this would be MNS, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 so bjp are ready to pull the strings,they want more seats so they can distribute it fairly to the smaller allies,its a fair demand.SS are keen on continuing the ally because they need the bjp more than the other way around.i think SS will bog down to their demands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 I am getting sick and tired of this will they wont they from both sides. Just wait till saturday. Whatever happens will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I am getting sick and tired of this will they wont they from both sides. Just wait till saturday. Whatever happens will happen. have no doubt sena will bog down to bjp's demand.i think bjp wants 137-138 seats like they demanded at the start,playing like a big brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 I think what will happen is Sena 146 BJP 130 and others 14 with the bjp taking *****er seats and the smaller allies promised cabinet positions to compensate for contesting lesser seats. That is the only way this can go IMO Reports that Uddhav Thakarey has called Shah and Phadnavis is talking to Raut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 you got to hand it to the NCP they have made so many noises that they are ready to tie up with congress sena or bjp post elections. Incredible man Pawar is. Is positioning himself to be in power again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 news coming in,the alliance is broken.both bjp and ss will fight alone,interesting to see with whom will the smaller alliances go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 so amit shah couldnt do what a mahajan or munde would have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I think a deal will happen between BJP-SS soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 its over. I am getting news the alliance is dead and the ss and bjp will look to come together post elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 so amit shah couldnt do what a mahajan or munde would have its not fair to Amit shah. he is newly into the job and the Thakareys are a pompous bunch. Hard to transplant yourself into it. Still if the NCP congress break the BJP should not mind much. They will have their options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFever Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 It makes no sense to break the 25 year old alliance to keep the smaller allies happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Without BJP how does the SS hope to have the CMs chair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Amit Shah is a stubborn politician it looks. He doesnt back down on unfair demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 ShivSena should be prepared for some 30-40 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 The NCP breaks with the Congress A 4 way fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 This is advantage BJP at the moment. in a 4 way fight they have 3 lesser allies to aid them in western maharashtra post elections they can potentially ally with the sena ncp mns plenty of options. I think biggest losers are the sena and the congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I hope its a BJP-NCP alliance.Sena is a poisonous ally and BJP going away from them will only help BJP in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Kudos to BJP for not yielding,they are thinking long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Lol.....both alliances broken. BJP-SS broke theirs first so Cong-NCP should have done the smart thing and kept their alliance intact but I guess their ego was too big. Going to be a really interesting election now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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