coffee_rules Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 ^ Likewise AAP, it has also gone silent on media or media has gone silent on AAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Ehh. What ? So calling PM hitler and asking him to assassinated is kin to being anti PM. Calling somebody Hitler shouldn't be a reason enough to warrant an arrest. Call for assassination of course does. But I don't any of the activists arrested for being anti-modi exhorted any-violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Firstpost @firstpostin Government asks National Commission for Women chief, SC/ST Commission chief to quit: CNN-IBN Good step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhunaeh Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Indian bureaucrats scramble for Hindi dictionaries NEW DELHI: For the past two weeks, the top civil servants in India's labyrinthine bureaucracy have been sent back to school. Graduate degrees are commonplace in this crowd. Plenty have diplomas from Oxford, Cambridge or Harvard, and most were raised speaking English-the language used in most official documents and correspondence in India. But these days, they are spending their evenings frantically looking up words after new Prime Minister Narendra Modi declared that all official documents must be written in Hindi, spoken by hundreds of millions across northern India. While many bureaucrats speak the language, few know the formal phrases needed for official communication. ''It's unbelievable how much time I spend rifling through the Hindi dictionary,'' said a senior official, who asked not to be named for fear of being seen as criticizing the new government. ''A simple letter now takes me ages.'' Modi's campaign promises included a vow to crack the whip on Delhi's gargantuan and slow-moving bureaucracy, but the language shift is also clearly part of an outsider's attempt to etch his own imprint on the political culture of the Indian capital. Many of Modi's early decisions have sent ripples of unease through the ranks of India's powerful civil servants, threatening to upend this city's long-established pecking order. Another early signal came within days of Modi's inauguration, when Indian news outlets reported that the government had asked for a list of bureaucrats who belonged to New Delhi's golf clubs. ''The report that such a list was being drawn up gave many of us the jitters,'' said another official, an avid golfer, who also requested anonymity. ''The implication was that if you are a regular on the golf course, then work may not be your first priority.'' The recent election brought seismic political changes to the capital, with the overwhelming majority gained by Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party all but wiping away the nearly six decades of dominance by the Congress party— traditionally dominated by those who spoke English at home— which had shaped Delhi's bureaucratic landscape. ''Delhi's drawing room set, especially top government officials, are deeply suspicious of this new lot of power-wielders with whom they have little in common, let alone language,'' said Abhilasha Kumari, a New Delhi-based sociologist. At his first meeting with the capital's top officials, Modi laid down new ground rules: Reduce delays, cut red tape and ensure greater accountability and efficiency. Other edicts: swift disposal of files, holding officials responsible for delays in decision-making, and limiting cushy post-retirement jobs for civil servants. India's civil service, a collection of state and national agencies that totals some 6.5 million people, was the proud ''steel frame'' that helped govern the vast subcontinent during British colonial rule. Families here dream of their children passing the rigorous entry examinations to join the exclusive ranks of civil servants. These days, though, it's also widely derided as a contributing factor in the country's sluggish economic growth, with widespread corruption and lack of expertise often masked by tedious rules and sheer inefficiency. Modi made streamlining the bureaucracy a campaign platform, vowing ''maximum governance and minimum government.'' He also said he wanted to restore a sense of pride to India's dejected millions, many of them battling unemployment and grinding poverty. One quick boost would be giving prominence to Hindi, the language of the masses. So a day after the new government took office, India's home ministry ordered officials to switch to Hindi on social media. Modi also ordered officials to use Hindi in all official correspondence and to take notes in Hindi. Modi himself declared he would only speak Hindi with foreign leaders. The changes have shaken the government's power managers. The newly elected lawmakers ''speak a different language and are socially conservative in their outlook,'' Kumari said. ''Certainly, there is a sense of disquiet among the bureaucrats,'' she said. Modi could not be further removed from Delhi's reigning English-speaking caucus. The son of a poor tea-seller, he rose to become the longtime chief minister of his native Gujarat state in western India. His patchy education was mostly in Hindi and Gujarati, and he earned his university degrees through correspondence courses. But language is also politics for Modi, who spent years as a preacher with the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh, or National Volunteers Association, a powerful Hindu nationalist movement that sees Hindi as the true language of a powerful India. While Modi rarely speaks English in public, he is said to speak the language fairly well, even if he's not completely at ease. But in a country with as many as 22 official languages, many question Hindi's dominance. Although Hindi and its numerous dialects are spoken by about 45 percent of India's 1.2 billion people, there are hundreds of millions in the southern, eastern and remote northeast parts of the country who don't speak Hindi at all. In recent years, as India has joined the globalized economy, English has become increasingly important beyond the urban elite. Today, about 10 percent of the country is thought to be proficient in English. For the senior civil servants, the sudden language shift is an added burden. ''Most officials think in English. But if they have to translate documents, or write letters in Hindi, it would slow down the process,'' said Amitabha Pande, a retired civil servant. ''In many ways it would be counter to what Modi set out to achieve- speeding up government functioning.'' :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhunaeh Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/karunanidhi-slams-move-to-promote-hindi-on-social-media/1/367587.html In fact, the Centre has directed all the states, except the AIADMK-ruled Tamil Nadu, to correspond with it in Hindi. special treatment just for one state. Great way to improve Indian unity. :hatsoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Number Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 PMO planning to disband the planning commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Indian bureaucrats scramble for Hindi dictionaries :hysterical: Absolute stupidity from Modi govt. But then not unexpected from them. When Uma Bharti was CM of MP she had opened a Gau-Shala in CM house. Don't understand why there is any need to impose hindi over non-hindi regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Indian bureaucrats scramble for Hindi dictionaries :hysterical: Stupid move by Modi.... So far he's indulging in dramabaazi only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Everyone chill: BJP's Naqvi says Hindi is mix of Tamil, Gujarati, Bengali http://www.firstpost.com/politics/everyone-chill-bjps-naqvi-says-hindi-mix-tamil-gujarati-bengali-1580695.html "Hindi is the national language and is the heart of the country. Priority to Hindi cannot be (construed as) an insult to English. The government's initiative for according priority to Hindi and regional languages is a welcome step," BJP Vice President Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi claimed. He further said that Hindi is a mixture of different regional languages like Tamil, Telugu, Malayali, Gujarati, Bengali, Assamese, Urdu and other regional languages. :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Trolls with not so hidden agendas: “Hindi is not being imposed on a non-Hindi state. What objection is there if we work in Hindi,” BJP spokesperson Shahnawaz Hussain told reporters in New Delhi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Hindi on social media for Hindi-speaking states. :facepalm: What does this even mean? Social media is not restricted to states.Some new sort of "development" I guess. Needless "patriotic" chest thumping and display of "nationalism". But, hey "Hindi is your national language" AND "Hindi is a mixture of different languages". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Hindi on social media for Hindi-speaking states. :facepalm: What does this even mean? Social media is not restricted to states.Some new sort of "development" I guess. Needless "patriotic" chest thumping and display of "nationalism". But, hey "Hindi is your national language" AND "Hindi is a mixture of different languages". State machinery comfortable with Hindi, they have merely stated it as a priority. it does not mean imposition BTW people are encouraged to post positive news also hete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 State machinery comfortable with Hindi, they have merely stated it as a priority. it does not mean imposition BTW people are encouraged to post positive news also hete Some of the State-machinery comfortable in English, lets make it a "priority", eh? We want Hindi-speaking states to post in Hindi on English dominant social media which is not restricted to Hindi-speaking populace and created by "CIA agents" to "prioritize" Hindi over English when both are equal official languages according to the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhunaeh Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 They are trying to divert the issue by making it a hindi vs english fight. It is a hindi vs other regional language issue. English is being brought in because it is easy to bash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhunaeh Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 “Hindi is not being imposed on a non-Hindi state. What objection is there if we work in Hindi,” BJP spokesperson Shahnawaz Hussain told reporters in New Delhi. He said the party and government have said that they will work in Hindi and its use is not being imposed on any non- Hindi speaking state. So if the govt works in Hindi, how are people from non hindi states supposed to participate in the govt? This only confirms what was being said here NEW DELHI: For the past two weeks, the top civil servants in India's labyrinthine bureaucracy have been sent back to school. Graduate degrees are commonplace in this crowd. Plenty have diplomas from Oxford, Cambridge or Harvard, and most were raised speaking English-the language used in most official documents and correspondence in India. But these days, they are spending their evenings frantically looking up words after new Prime Minister Narendra Modi declared that all official documents must be written in Hindi, spoken by hundreds of millions across northern India. While many bureaucrats speak the language, few know the formal phrases needed for official communication. ''It's unbelievable how much time I spend rifling through the Hindi dictionary,'' said a senior official, who asked not to be named for fear of being seen as criticizing the new government. ''A simple letter now takes me ages.'' Modi's campaign promises included a vow to crack the whip on Delhi's gargantuan and slow-moving bureaucracy, but the language shift is also clearly part of an outsider's attempt to etch his own imprint on the political culture of the Indian capital. Many of Modi's early decisions have sent ripples of unease through the ranks of India's powerful civil servants, threatening to upend this city's long-established pecking order. Another early signal came within days of Modi's inauguration, when Indian news outlets reported that the government had asked for a list of bureaucrats who belonged to New Delhi's golf clubs. ''The report that such a list was being drawn up gave many of us the jitters,'' said another official, an avid golfer, who also requested anonymity. ''The implication was that if you are a regular on the golf course, then work may not be your first priority.'' The recent election brought seismic political changes to the capital, with the overwhelming majority gained by Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party all but wiping away the nearly six decades of dominance by the Congress party— traditionally dominated by those who spoke English at home— which had shaped Delhi's bureaucratic landscape. ''Delhi's drawing room set, especially top government officials, are deeply suspicious of this new lot of power-wielders with whom they have little in common, let alone language,'' said Abhilasha Kumari, a New Delhi-based sociologist. At his first meeting with the capital's top officials, Modi laid down new ground rules: Reduce delays, cut red tape and ensure greater accountability and efficiency. Other edicts: swift disposal of files, holding officials responsible for delays in decision-making, and limiting cushy post-retirement jobs for civil servants. India's civil service, a collection of state and national agencies that totals some 6.5 million people, was the proud ''steel frame'' that helped govern the vast subcontinent during British colonial rule. Families here dream of their children passing the rigorous entry examinations to join the exclusive ranks of civil servants. These days, though, it's also widely derided as a contributing factor in the country's sluggish economic growth, with widespread corruption and lack of expertise often masked by tedious rules and sheer inefficiency. Modi made streamlining the bureaucracy a campaign platform, vowing ''maximum governance and minimum government.'' He also said he wanted to restore a sense of pride to India's dejected millions, many of them battling unemployment and grinding poverty. One quick boost would be giving prominence to Hindi, the language of the masses. So a day after the new government took office, India's home ministry ordered officials to switch to Hindi on social media. Modi also ordered officials to use Hindi in all official correspondence and to take notes in Hindi. Modi himself declared he would only speak Hindi with foreign leaders. The changes have shaken the government's power managers. The newly elected lawmakers ''speak a different language and are socially conservative in their outlook,'' Kumari said. ''Certainly, there is a sense of disquiet among the bureaucrats,'' she said. Modi could not be further removed from Delhi's reigning English-speaking caucus. The son of a poor tea-seller, he rose to become the longtime chief minister of his native Gujarat state in western India. His patchy education was mostly in Hindi and Gujarati, and he earned his university degrees through correspondence courses. But language is also politics for Modi, who spent years as a preacher with the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh, or National Volunteers Association, a powerful Hindu nationalist movement that sees Hindi as the true language of a powerful India. While Modi rarely speaks English in public, he is said to speak the language fairly well, even if he's not completely at ease. But in a country with as many as 22 official languages, many question Hindi's dominance. Although Hindi and its numerous dialects are spoken by about 45 percent of India's 1.2 billion people, there are hundreds of millions in the southern, eastern and remote northeast parts of the country who don't speak Hindi at all. In recent years, as India has joined the globalized economy, English has become increasingly important beyond the urban elite. Today, about 10 percent of the country is thought to be proficient in English. For the senior civil servants, the sudden language shift is an added burden. ''Most officials think in English. But if they have to translate documents, or write letters in Hindi, it would slow down the process,'' said Amitabha Pande, a retired civil servant. ''In many ways it would be counter to what Modi set out to achieve- speeding up government functioning.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Clearly shows that BJP is inexperienced in Central Governance are not sure what are the priorities... Useless beating around the bush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Some of the State-machinery comfortable in English' date=' lets make it a "priority", eh? We want Hindi-speaking states to post in Hindi on English dominant social media which is not restricted to Hindi-speaking populace and created by "CIA agents" to "prioritize" Hindi over English when both are equal official languages according to the constitution.[/quote'] IMHO there's nothing wrong in what has been suggested,it's a language of preference for the current govt and the most widely spoken language in our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 ''Most officials think in English. But if they have to translate documents, or write letters in Hindi, it would slow down the process,'' said Amitabha Pande, a retired civil servant. ''In many ways it would be counter to what Modi set out to achieve- speeding up government functioning.'' That is why I said that installing a indic link language is going to be a multi generation affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 IMHO there's nothing wrong in what has been suggested' date='it's a language of preference for the current govt and the most widely spoken language in our country.[/quote'] Not only is it wrong but it completely lacks sense in practice. Rather than saying "It is not wrong" or "It is right" may be you can explain "WHY" and "HOW" by pointing out to credible sources and practical implementations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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