rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Doubt it Fletcher always preferred 5 bowlers even with England.I can't see us discarding this theory until Dhoni has few failures Even if it discarded for away tests we will 100% continue with it at home imo considering our 100% success that 5 bowler attack and Dhoni's reliability at home. We had 4 bowlers against WI in tests at home. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I would want Rassol as an opener for overseas tests instead of ashwin. Rassol is a classical mode of off spinner. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 We had 4 bowlers against WI in tests at home. That was becoz Jadeja was injured out Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 That was becoz Jadeja was injured out So, we do not have any other spinner than Jadeja. FYI, It was #6 batsman, Rohit who saved us in both the tests. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So' date=' we do not have any other spinner than Jadeja. FYI, It was #6 batsman, Rohit who saved us in both the tests.[/quote'] We don't have spinning all rounder other than Jadeja or at least one that Dhoni trusts. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 We don't have spinning all rounder other than Jadeja or at least one that Dhoni trusts. Parvez Rassol, better bat than Jadeja. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Parvez Rassol' date=' better bat than Jadeja.[/quote'] If he was trusted by Fletcher and co he would have made his debut vs Zimbabwe . Also Jadeja is a better bat than Rassol imo Being a similar spinner to Ashwin might hinder Rassol as well Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 If he was trusted by Fletcher and co he would have made his debut vs Zimbabwe . Also Jadeja is a better bat than Rassol imo Being a similar spinner to Ashwin might hinder Rassol as well What has Jadeja done to have any trust in his batting? Link to comment
undisputed chap Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I would want Rassol as an opener for overseas tests instead of ashwin. Rassol is a classical mode of off spinner. Classical offies aren't going to win you matches especially overseas. Unless ofcourse he can give it a rip like swann which I don't think rasool can. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 What has Jadeja done to have any trust in his batting? ODIs and domestic form. Will get it right in tests too soon atleast at home conditions . Just need confidence rather than throwing bat at everything Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Classical offies aren't going to win you matches especially overseas. Unless ofcourse he can give it a rip like swann which I don't think rasool can. Rassol has a good side on action and will certainly turn the ball. In fact, classical spinners do better overseas than mystery ones. Link to comment
undisputed chap Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 ODIs and domestic form. Will get it right in tests too soon atleast at home conditions . Just need confidence rather than throwing bat at everything His batting is terrible to say the least. He can't defend a ball to save his life whether home or away. The best he can do is slog & hope it sticks Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So' date=' we do not have any other spinner than Jadeja. FYI, It was #6 batsman, Rohit who saved us in both the tests.[/quote'] Ignored by many that Dhoni at 6 , Jadeja 7 and Binny 8 is a collapse waiting to happen, suicidal. Just shows how mediocre Binny is that Jadeja and dhoni bat above him Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Rohit only saved us in the first test even then Ashwin scored a century and Dhoni scored 50 I think . 2nd test we had like 120 run lead when Rohit came into bat with Pujara well set. Also wi batting can't be much of a test . We will struggle to take 20 take at home without 5 bowlers as Eng series showed. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Rohit only saved us in the first test even then Ashwin scored a century and Dhoni scored 50 I think . 2nd test we had like 120 run lead when Rohit came into bat with Pujara well set. Also wi batting can't be much of a test . We will struggle to take 20 take at home without 5 bowlers as Eng series showed. It was Rohit-Ashwin partnership that bailed the team out, DHoni scored 42. We were 156/6 at one point. Link to comment
undisputed chap Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Rassol has a good side on action and will certainly turn the ball. In fact' date=' classical spinners do better overseas than mystery ones.[/quote'] I didn't see anything special in him :hmmm: Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 It was Rohit-Ashwin partnership that bailed the team out' date=' DHoni scored 42. We were 156/6 at one point.[/quote'] Yeah . but my point is even vs WI our lower was very reliable (Dhoni Ashwin etc ) . We were in trouble becoz of top order collapse that is rare in home conditions with this line up. But our bowling attack is too weak to be relied to take 20 wkts as eng series showed with 4 bowlers . Link to comment
youngindia Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 But our bowling attack is too weak to be relied to take 20 wkts as eng series showed with 4 bowlers . so were 5 bowlers going to win that series? what makes you think the 5th bowler has some extra strength with him? its totally baseless and irrational india has a very strong record at home and has won many matches with 4 bowlers..here we have posters making the most absurd claims matches are not won by 4 or 5 or 6 bowlers but by quality performances Link to comment
Old guy Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 At home spinner can bowl majority of overs...in away matches fast bowlers have to bowl so use some common sense ...an ashwin-jadeja combination can bowl 50+ overs in a single day or much more but two fast bowlers cannot and that is why every country in world today plays atleast 5 bowlers Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So you Binny fans. He has bowled only 5 overs, whats the point in him. Could have played genuine bat! Why did dhoni pick him , as clearly he don't rate him Link to comment
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