TNAmarkFrmIndia Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Ishant Sharma's childhood coach Sharvan Kumar feels that all the criticism that the bowler faced in recent times was "justified" and is also proud that his favourite ward has answered back in the best possible way by winning an overseas Test match for India. "You can't deny that consistency has been a big problem for Ishant. Hopefully, this will be the series that will make him a better bowler. He got a flak for his inconsistency and it was justified. Or else, he wouldn't have been able to correct his flaws and come back stronger," Sharvan told PTI after Ishant's 7/74 helped in India's 95-run win. Asked about the kind of problems that Ishant faced, Sharvan didn't mince words in blaming former India bowling coach Venkatesh Prasad for the problems that crept up in his bowling. "Ishant is a quick bowler whom Prasad insisted on turning into a line-and-length bowler. He lost his natural affinity for speed at one point of time. One thing led to other and his action became flawed. The shoulder started dropping and the wrist position also suffered. This caused a drop in pace as well as confidence," said Sharvan, who coached Ishant at Patel Nagar's Ramjas College ground since he was teenager. He did speak to Ishant before he embarked on the tour of England. "I told him to look at his wrist position which should be very straight. He was also becoming a bit open-chested on his final delivery stride which needed to go back to the old-fashioned side on action in order to generate speed." "These are little things I told him and I believe that Joe Dawes has done a lot of good work with Ishant after the low he hit with Prasad as the coach," Sharvan said. Asked what should be the average speed that Ishant needs to maintain, Sharvan said, "When he is bowling between 135-140 kmph, he does a good job. Hitting the right length at that speed will be rewarding for him on all kinds of surfaces. Also in England, he has not drifted too often spraying the ball all over. Again, it is all about correction of action. He will only get better." The veteran coach also said that he has told Ishant that he should be happy with what he has got. "There are times when he feels bad about not being picked for one- dayers but I tell him to look at the positive side that he is India's spearhead in Test matches." "Also the snub that he got in this year's Indian Premier League where Sunrisers Hyderabad didn't play him in most of the matches spurred him to do well. He is an India bowler and he should feel the urge to show people how good he is when he is ignored," Sharvan concluded.
BlueBee Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Hopefully he'll get a lot better in future. But please tell him to cut his hair short.
Marco Polo Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 We knew this all along. When did Ishant tried to copy Zak's bowling method? During Venky's period as a bowling coach. I wouldn't be surprised if Venky asked Ishant to follow Zak's bowling style. What a retard this venky fool is.
CG Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Bullshit.The same coach was blaming ishant last time as he did not go to his academy but went to practice at his friends academy.
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Dont now why our bowlers tinker so much with their action and approach even when they are doing well. Ishant did it in 2009 and paid for it. Munaf did it, paid for it, Pathan did it, paid fpr it.
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Bullshit. He is right. It all started when Venky was our coach.
CG Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 He is right. It all started when Venky was our coach. Ishant himself is on record saying he tried to cpy zak style with out tellling anyone.
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Ishant himself is on record saying he tried to cpy zak style with out tellling anyone. I know he said that but he started doing it to get that outswinger going for which Prasad was responsible, IMO and that is where everything went wrong for him.
maniac Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Wasn't Venky the coach when ishant made an impact in cb series and aus tour and also during his man of series performance against aus at home?
maniac Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah Venky might have been part of the problem but the biggest problem was the recommendation candidate appointed during Kirsten's rule.
CG Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Wasn't Venky the coach when ishant made an impact in cb series and aus tour and also during his man of series performance against aus at home? Yes he was .He was the one who corrected his seam position from pak series then he went ot do great things in aus,sri, at home against sa,aus.
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Yes he was .He was the one who corrected his seam position from pak series then he went ot do great things in aus' date='sri, at home against sa,aus.[/quote'] Yes, he did well initially with Ishant but then his obsession with outswingers like he himself used to bowl and variations like leg cutters lead to the downfall as well.
virufan Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Bullshit.The same coach was blaming ishant last time as he did not go to his academy but went to practice at his friends academy. No bullshit. No confidence in Venky. That is the very reason, he went to his friend's academy.
maniac Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Yes he was .He was the one who corrected his seam position from pak series then he went ot do great things in aus' date='sri, at home against sa,aus.[/quote'] Actually I used to think Venky was making everyone a tundler during his tenure long time back but I have heard his interviews....he does encourage a bowler to bowls fast....perspective had changed.....also r.p Singh was on fire during this time and his downfall was himself to blame...Zaks resurgence....nehra and Pathans resurgence as a odi bowler happened during his tenure too
CG Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Yes' date=' he did well initially with Ishant but then his obsession with outswingers like he himself used to bowl and variations like leg cutters lead to the downfall as well.[/quote'] May be we cannot know for sure AS Ishant said he did not anyone trying to copy action.
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Wasn't Venky the coach when ishant made an impact in cb series and aus tour and also during his man of series performance against aus at home? Yes but Venky was the coach when he went down too from 2009 T20WC and then ODI series in WI. Rise and downfall happened in his tenure. Rise happened when he nurtured Ishant's natural style and got better, downfall when he tried to add too many things too soon and lost his action and seam position again.
maniac Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Yes but Venky was the coach when he went down too from 2009 T20WC and then ODI series in WI. Rise and downfall happened in his tenure. You can't blame ishant,rp and srees downfall on Venky....infact most of India's long term problems post 2011 I attribute to Kirsten and his coaching staff.....we got killed in 2009 and 2010 t20 with short balls but Kirsten never did anything there......neither were new breed of bowlers identified.
saneindian Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 THis is really awesome, after the 1st test, the same coach was criticizing Ishant for not coming to him for advice anymore!! :haha:
virufan Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 THis is really awesome' date=' after the 1st test, the same coach was criticizing Ishant for not coming to him for advice anymore!! :haha:[/quote'] Really?
CG Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 THis is really awesome' date=' after the 1st test, the same coach was criticizing Ishant for not coming to him for advice anymore!! :haha:[/quote'] :giggle:
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