MK55 Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Who said Binny will be picked in that match ? :--D Lets not drag it further. Lets see, how he fares after a real bad series in Aus. Ya... I was referring to Binny or some other bowler who is less penetrative :winky:
kosingh Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 20 years ago, I didn't see all that many fit looking Indians on the street. Today, if I walk through a mall in india, I see many young kids in their teens and 20s who look taller and also firer than previous generations. Many in this generation take their fitness seriously. Many youngsters go to the gym compared with two decades ago. Many eat healthier and our diet conscious. Many take up high fitness sports like tennis and basketball. But why doesn't this generation of kids take up fast bowling? Their bodies are much more similar to gora bodies compared with 20 years ago. Why is it that our fast bowlers look like they would get beaten in an arm wrestling contests against any random ICF poster? And the ones that look a bit strong (like Aaron) ...why is it that they break down so easily?
rkt.india Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 20 years ago, I didn't see all that many fit looking Indians on the street. Today, if I walk through a mall in india, I see many young kids in their teens and 20s who look taller and also firer than previous generations. Many in this generation take their fitness seriously. Many youngsters go to the gym compared with two decades ago. Many eat healthier and our diet conscious. Many take up high fitness sports like tennis and basketball. But why doesn't this generation of kids take up fast bowling? Their bodies are much more similar to gora bodies compared with 20 years ago. Why is it that our fast bowlers look like they would get beaten in an arm wrestling contests against any random ICF poster? And the ones that look a bit strong (like Aaron) ...why is it that they break down so easily? Young genuine pacers broke down from every country. Look at how injury prone Anderson was in his early years. Same with Johnson. Right now, Pattinson, Cummins, Hazlewood all have struggled with injuries. Genuine fast bowlers are injury prone as their body matures and becomes strong till 24-25.
MK55 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Sunil Gavaskar wants to replace the current bowlers with bowlers from Ranji. And he has been quite vociferous in his comments. Whether its commentary box, or in newspaper articles or interviews. What is baffling is that he wants guys like Ashwin, Ishant, Umesh out just because they were present last time around. Ashwin has been a much improved bowler now, also Ishant is starting to get consistent. Damien Flemming on the other hand wants us to persist with the current bowlers as he feels Ishant is now getting consistent. Also according to him in Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron, we have two bowlers who can bowl at 90-plus and can swing the ball at the same time and that there are not a lot of bowlers around who can do that. Warne had a similar view during the series. We desperately need a sensible bowling coach like Gillespie/Flemming/Bond etc who has got full authority over the bowlers. I don't know about Shastri but I feel we cant allow guys with too much clout anywhere near the team. The bowling coach will be useless then.
kosingh Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I said it before, that I am really in favor of a bowling coach who himself has transitioned from being a wild erratic bowler to a more controlled and disciplined bowler. Someone like Srinath.
bharat297 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I think Ishant on his own is not a genuine wicket taker or leader of the attack. However, I think he is a crucial support bowler. Ishant bowled some good spells through 2008-2009, because he kept things tight and controlled an end while Zaheer could attack more from the other end. Right now, we lack that genuine attacking option and I think once we have that, that combination with Ishant will be very valuable.
bharat297 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I think Pankaj Singh deserves another chance. He was blooded during a difficult England tour and bowled well in patches. He was not helped by drop catches and strange captaincy (Dhoni making him bowl 1-over spells). He has gone back to domestic cricket and performed consistently well every match. We expect consistency at international level, yet here we have a 6"6 bowler who is performing consistently in domestic cricket and we only give him 2 matches away from home and discard him immediately. If Pankaj can perform for another 4-5 years, along side Ishant and Varun Aaron we might have a decent pace attack to take abroad. Pankaj needs to be another control bowler like Ishant.
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