MCGGG Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 [ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4cukAdBEpMs]Jeff Thomson - YouTube[/ame] No need to elaborate, that is serious heat. Helmet or no helmet, **** that...
MCGGG Posted January 14, 2015 Author Posted January 14, 2015 Interesting comments about how they created such speed, the longer the ball remains in your hand once the thrust begins the better, obviously the follow through is important as well.
AmreekanDesi Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Thompson is EASILY the fastest bowler of all time. In 1978 there was a fastest bowling competition with all the leading fast bowlers of the time and it was 1.Thompson 2. Holding 3. Imran Khan Thompson was recorded at 147.8km/h. But the interesting thing is that the delivery speed was measured at the point of impact with the bat rather than the point of release as it is done in modern time. And by all accounts, depending on the surface, the delivery slows down by 15 to 20km/h from the point of release to the point it reaches the batsman. So in effect Thompson bowled at a speed well in excess of 160 km/h and prolbably being the fastest delivery ever recorded
express bowling Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The ball slows down around 15% to 20% by the time it reaches the batsman. A delivery which is 148 k when playing then has a release speed of around 174 k to 185 k. Does that seem possible ?
MCGGG Posted January 14, 2015 Author Posted January 14, 2015 The ball slows down around 15% to 20% by the time it reaches the batsman. A delivery which is 148 k when playing then has a release speed of around 174 k to 185 k. Does that seem possible ? I've seen footage of Thompson and Holding bowling from the tradional view, they were lightning fast, Ian Chappell reckons Thompson was marginally faster than Holding, IMO both were faster than Aktar and Lee.
express bowling Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I've seen footage of Thompson and Holding bowling from the tradional view' date=' they were lightning fast, Ian Chappell reckons Thompson was marginally faster than Holding, IMO both were faster than Aktar and Lee.[/quote'] Thomson was very very fast. To me he has looked much quicker than Holding. But surely not 175 k to 185 k. The speedguns during 1978 were perhaps not that reliable.
AmreekanDesi Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Thomson was very very fast. To me he has looked much quicker than Holding. But surely not 175 k to 185 k. The speedguns during 1978 were perhaps not that reliable. its 15 to 20km/h difference so prolly around 165kph they were very high end guns as it was a one off event
AmreekanDesi Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I think speeds were sth like Thommo 148 Holding 145 Imran 139
express bowling Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I think speeds were sth like Thommo 148 Holding 145 Imran 139 It was Thomson 147 Holding. 141 Imran. 139
Sidhoni Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 If the speed is measured at the point of release then why does it differ in different parts of the world?
Old guy Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 If the speed is measured at the point of release then why does it differ in different parts of the world? they are not different .
Sidhoni Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 they are not different . Ishant and Yadav clocked above 150 in the 2011 Aus tour and were at the top of fastest bowlers. Has that happened when they bowled in India?
Old guy Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Ishant and Yadav clocked above 150 in the 2011 Aus tour and were at the top of fastest bowlers. Has that happened when they bowled in India? i am not sure yadav hardly played much and its also can be because bowlers are encouraged to bowl faster on these tracks aaron did clock his highest in india and yadav has bowled similar average pace everywhere in this past year and also there are speed gun variations but it is always measured from hand..
express bowling Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 its 15 to 20km/h difference so prolly around 165kph they were very high end guns as it was a one off event How can the reduction in speed be a fixed number..whatever the release speed ? A 145 k ball reaches the batsmen between 115 to 125 k depending on various factors. That is about 20% to 15% reduction.
msb1991 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Thompson was recorded at 147.8km/h. But the interesting thing is that the delivery speed was measured at the point of impact with the bat rather than the point of release as it is done in modern time. And by all accounts' date= depending on the surface, the delivery slows down by 15 to 20km/h from the point of release to the point it reaches the batsman. There is no reliable source for this and moreover, the high speed cameras in that video are clearly pointing at the crease from a side on view.
msb1991 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 its 15 to 20km/h difference so prolly around 165kph they were very high end guns as it was a one off event 165kph is ridiculous. Batsmen these days are not comfortable against spells of 150kph+ and the common sense would say that bowling machines and helmets make modern batsmen more comfortable against pace than people in the 1980s. It is nostalgic bullshit to suggest modern batsmen are worse against raw speed.
AmreekanDesi Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Ishant and Yadav clocked above 150 in the 2011 Aus tour and were at the top of fastest bowlers. Has that happened when they bowled in India? when you see a bouncy or seaming wicket you are encouraged to bend your back
AmreekanDesi Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 165kph is ridiculous. Batsmen these days are not comfortable against spells of 150kph+ and the common sense would say that bowling machines and helmets make modern batsmen more comfortable against pace than people in the 1980s. It is nostalgic bullshit to suggest modern batsmen are worse against raw speed. bhai im not making it up. there was a panel on this a few years ago which mark Nicholas hosted and all the legends of yesteryears were there. some MCC event
AmreekanDesi Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I think ppl need to realize that the numbers I put were one off numbers where the bowlers were giving their all. obv they would be lower in a spell
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