Query for the technical experts

[Gambit]

When batting against spinners who turn the ball a long long way, why don't we see more batsmen bat atleast 3-4 inches outside their crease? This will help them negate the spin, as they'll meet the ball much earlier and play it before it starts to spin big and will also save them from being given LBW more often than not. Is it just the fear of getting stumped? Ravi,gator any thoughts?

[Predator_05]

It will also make them highly susceptible to being stumped, especially if the ball IS turning a long way - they will be beaten a couple of times for sure. Good batsmen can usually read the spinner's ball right from of his hand and play accordingly. Most Indian batsmen play like that

[Sachinism]

easily get stumped its very difficult to bat outside to spinners, you miss one and the keeper will stump you whenever i go to bat against spinners, i make sure one foot is well inside the crease

[gator]

there, Predator answered it..... any spinner worth his salt can fire one down the leg side at 100kph and then there is a big chance of getting stumped..... one of the main reasons, Dhoni stood up to Pathan even though he was bowling at 130+ in the 20/20 world cup was to prevent batters from standing outside the crease and negate his swing... i remember, Kirmani and even More for a while used to do tht in swinging conditions for Kapil dev....

[Guest BossBhai]

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[theguyinallblue]

is it difficult to play spinners off the back foot...with soft hands... specially when there is no pressure to score runs...like in the case of sami in last test match.. play with straight bat...within the stumps....and completely ignore those balls which are not within the stumps..

[Guest Hiten.]

If the ball is turning a lot then the batsmen have to have POSITIVE footwork. They should come down the track once in 3-4 balls to disturb the bowler's line and length. Coming down the track to the spinner makes the spinner ball short-pitch, these short-pitched deliveries are easy to cut and score runs off. Off course!! Easier said than done

[talksport]

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[King]

When batting against spinners who turn the ball a long long way, why don't we see more batsmen bat atleast 3-4 inches outside their crease? This will help them negate the spin, as they'll meet the ball much earlier and play it before it starts to spin big and will also save them from being given LBW more often than not. Is it just the fear of getting stumped? Ravi,gator any thoughts?

The reason batsmen stand outside the crease to swing/fast bowlers is to counter the swing. The ball when bowled short doesn't swing as much as it needs to be bowled fuller. A spinner need not have to bowl full to get the ball to spin. It usually is way easier for spin bowlers to alter the length and still be able to spin. If you stand out of the crease and the spinner is able to get good spin or bounce off the track you will pretty much end up being stumped. Against spinner either you play just when the ball pitches not allowing it to turn or play late off the back foot after it has turned enough. Gone are the days when umpires didn't give LBWs when hit on the pads with a good stride. If the batsman is hit in full in front of the stumps and even if he has enough stride he'll be give out these days. Lot of Indian batsmen are very adept at using the crease or using the feet hence they don't try and out think the spinner by standing outside. When you have enough time to use the feet against the spinners to meet the ball just before it turns you don't quite need to stand outside the crease do you? Batting against spin is a skill. If you watch closely the Indian batsmen (any international batsmen worth his salt) make an initial trigger movement on the front foot to alter the length of the spinners. When pitched on good length by the spinners to negate the batsman's trigger movement the good batsmen rock on to the back foot a long way and convert that to a short ball. How many times haven't you seen the Indian batsmen do that playing against spinners?