kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 300+ scores trend has only started recently. For the most of dhonis career' date=' a score between 270-280 is considered best.[/quote'] Okay fine, but what about quality of bowling? And powerplays? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bowl_out Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 There's an important factor that people are not discussing here. Bevan faced way better bowlers and there wasn't any powerplays and cement pitches. Dhoni had the luxury of fielding restrictions, mediocre bowlers and flat pitches. Bevan averaged 53 out of mostly 260+ scores whereas Dhoni averages 52 out of mostly 300+ scores. If you guys want to compare Dhoni do it with his generation of players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Bevan faced Indian bowling... Dhoni faces Australian bowling... End of discussion
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Bevan faced Indian bowling... Dhoni faces Australian bowling... End of discussion Dhoni played 11 inns against Australia in Australia and averages 42 at a strike rate of 62 with 1 fifty. Bevan played 14 inns against India in India and averaged 61 at a strike rate of 73 with 3 fifties. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Bumper Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 There's an important factor that people are not discussing here. Bevan faced way better bowlers and there wasn't any powerplays and cement pitches. Dhoni had the luxury of fielding restrictions, mediocre bowlers and flat pitches. Bevan averaged 53 out of mostly 260+ scores whereas Dhoni averages 52 out of mostly 300+ scores. If you guys want to compare Dhoni do it with his generation of players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ok, is Bradman the greatest of all time or only greatest of his generation ?:haha:
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Bradman was the greatest of all time. You pick anyone from any era and double his records and you'll find him still lagging behind the Don. You cannot say that about anyone in the entire cricket history. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Bumper Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Bradman was the greatest of all time. You pick anyone from any era and double his records and you'll find him still lagging behind the Don. You cannot say that about anyone in the entire cricket history. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk LOL, at the irony of your posts! Whatever floats your boat, i guess.
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 LOL' date=' at the irony of your posts! Whatever floats your boat, i guess.[/quote'] Why? What's wrong? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
BlueBee Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 There's a reason why Bevan's name wasn't in CI's best ODI player poll which Viv won. Dhoni's was.
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Two best bowling units of Dhoni's generation were SA and Aus. He averages 27 at 80 against SA and 42 at 63 against Aus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 If you consider Eng and NZ were good attacks as well. He averages 38 at 84 against England and 76 at 94 against NZ. And to add to that most of them are lost. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CG Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Okay fine, but what about quality of bowling? And powerplays? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Stats can only tell so much.Both were master runners and temperamentally strong.What gives dhoni the advantage is his power hitting ability.
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Stats can only tell so much.Both were master runners and temperamentally strong.What gives dhoni the advantage is his power hitting ability. Power hitting ability in batting friendly conditions and against poor bowling standards than Bevan faced. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
BlueBee Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Power hitting ability in batting friendly conditions and against poor bowling standards than Bevan faced. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah Dhoni should have played in Bevan's era. It's his mistake he was born in this era.
addicted4444 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 While Bevan played in an era with better bowlers, he did not face the best bowlers of his era because they were on his team. Bevan would have looked a lot worse as a finisher if he had McGrath bowling to him at the death.
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 While Bevan played in an era with better bowlers, he did not face the best bowlers of his era because they were on his team. Bevan would have looked a lot worse as a finisher if he had McGrath bowling to him at the death. Well he did faced Donald, Wasim, Waquar, Ambrose to name a few. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MCGGG Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Yeah Dhoni should have played in Bevan's era. It's his mistake he was born in this era. The only mistake is comparing the 2.
adi B Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 If you consider Eng and NZ were good attacks as well. He averages 38 at 84 against England and 76 at 94 against NZ. And to add to that most of them are lost. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk oh really?
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Best Finisher oh really? He has 3 fifties in Aus and SA in their own countries in 22 inns, all of them are lost. He has scores of 17*, 15*, 36, 38, 5, 44* in win matches. In those three reasonable scores Yuvraj, Raina contributed better than Dhoni. I couldn't find anything to agree that he's the best finisher, especially if you can't do it against the only two good bowling units of your generation in their own backyard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 In their own backyard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sachinism Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 People are way to nostalgic of the past. Making it sounded like Bevan faced Michael Holding day in, day out. He faced the odd great bowler coupled with a whole load of good to average bowlers. People spend way too much time analysing pointless stats to paint a picture they choose. You bring your subjective views on which were good bowling attacks or not. Watch the game, know the players who oppositions spend hours trying to counter in dressing rooms. Dhoni by far is the greatest finisher ever.
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