maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Aussie contributions welcome on this one. What makes them so good and can anyone challenge them? I did think that maybe South Africa could till they got thrashed by the Windies. People kept saying that once Warne and McGrath left the scene they'd drop a bit, but they keep finding new talent. I say if you can't beat 'em join 'em, in the sense that we have to see what it is that makes them so good and try and take a leaf out of their book. Link to comment
fineleg Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Step #1: BCCI needs to be kicked out and transformed totally. Without full fledged changes at BCCI and selector clowns, we are not gonna be able to do anything. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 u can change ur user id from maggot brain to - Midget Brain.. Teams are alredy matching them.. aus is no. 1 team but not that none of the team is giving them fight.. we are giving them fight too.. come on, a defeat in mcg test and ppl are righting India off so early.. Jaago, jaago INDIA.. all sleeping packholes Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Even the commentators on Channel 9 have been saying that the Aussie fans want someone to try and at least challenge their team.... Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 u can change ur user id from maggot brain to - Midget Brain.. Teams are alredy matching them.. aus is no. 1 team but not that none of the team is giving them fight.. we are giving them fight too.. come on, a defeat in mcg test and ppl are righting India off so early.. Jaago, jaago INDIA.. all sleeping packholes There's no need to resort to insults. Link to comment
varun Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Teams are alredy matching them.. No yaar.. that's all teams do, just give them a "fight". We don't need to match them, we gotta beat them. Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Thing is it's easy for non-Australians to be bad losers and say things like 'Aussies have all the luck' or 'umpires screwed us', but it doesn't detract from the fact that the Australian team are a class apart from everyone else. The only weakness in their side I can see is that they don't seem to have a good front-line spinner. Link to comment
Chaos Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Thing is it's easy for non-Australians to be bad losers and say things like 'Aussies have all the luck' or 'umpires screwed us'' date=' but it doesn't detract from the fact that the Australian team are a class apart from everyone else. The only weakness in their side I can see is that they don't seem to have a good front-line spinner.[/quote'] they win MOST of the tosses, MOST of the umpirin decisions. Without NEUTRAL decisions they are still **** team against good teams. Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 they win MOST of the tosses' date=' MOST of the umpirin decisions. Without NEUTRAL decisions they are still **** team against good teams.[/quote'] Perhaps someone can come up with some stats re: wins over the last few years. Notwithstanding the 2005 Ashes when was the last time they lost a test series? Etc... Link to comment
Bumper Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Its well documented how strong Aussies are. They cant be a bad team with that kinda record. Teams are already handicapped playing against them. You add umpiring gaffes to the equation, the match reduces to nonsense. If all umpiring decisions had gone our way, Aussies would have been bowled out for 250 & India would have likely finished the day 80/2. Instead we are looking down the barrel now, trying to save the test match. Granted they are more skilled. But umpiring errors make it impossible for teams to compete with them. Aussies are capable of punishing the opponents heavily, when let of, something other teams are not good at. Link to comment
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maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Well said Bumps. I thought you were the stats guys - go get 'em! Link to comment
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maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 and how exactly would i do that ? look at post #9 Link to comment
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Ram Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 It would incredibly naive to think biased umpiring is what helped Aus to reach the position they are in right now. You can an win odd one-day series or a test match with some sort of assistance from the umpires, but to dominate world cricket like they have done for the last decade and a half, it requires a lot of talent, hardwork, excellent team ethics and equally brilliant management by the cricket board. India has the talent and to an extent the hard-work, but we lack a professional cricketing set-up and that is what is hurting us the most. Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 It would incredibly naive to think biased umpiring is what helped Aus to reach the position they are in right now. You can an win odd one-day series or a test match with some sort of assistance from the umpires, but to dominate world cricket like they have done for the last decade and a half, it requires a lot of talent, hardwork, excellent team ethics and equally brilliant management by the cricket board. India has the talent and to an extent the hard-work, but we lack a professional cricketing set-up and that is what is hurting us the most. Also Australia has a VERY strong sporting culture, which we don't seem to have. Link to comment
Ram Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Also Australia has a VERY strong sporting culture' date=' which we don't seem to have.[/quote'] Excellent point, I missed that. Link to comment
Ram Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The watchword for excellence at the highest level is professionalism. Talent can take you only till certain levels, but beyond that, it is how professional you are, at each and every step you make, that will decide how you perform. It is no wonder that the hugely talented Asian teams perform exceedingly well in junior level cricket tournaments, where the work-ethics of all the teams are almost the same. It is between the ages 17 and 21 that i think the Australian system of professional coaching/training and preparation that help them produce such outstanding cricketers. Besides, have we ever heard of an Aus player who hits his team-mate with a bat ? or make a stupid statement against his team-mate or call his selectors a " bunch of jokers headed by a muppet" ? Such nonsense occurs only in Asia, coz our people way to importance to individuals rather than the team. Legends like Michael Beven, Steve Waugh were ruthlessly dropped from the team or given clear signals to quit, even though they were performing decently enough. We need a culture change in our system, a shift to a culture that stresses on accountability, consistent standards for all and gives huge importance to perfection. Till that happens, all we, as fans, can hope for is only to reminisce on the odd good performance of our teams. Continued success will alway elude us. Link to comment
Anakin Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 It would incredibly naive to think biased umpiring is what helped Aus to reach the position they are in right now. You can an win odd one-day series or a test match with some sort of assistance from the umpires, but to dominate world cricket like they have done for the last decade and a half, it requires a lot of talent, hardwork, excellent team ethics and equally brilliant management by the cricket board. India has the talent and to an extent the hard-work, but we lack a professional cricketing set-up and that is what is hurting us the most.In spite of all that they were spared a series loss in the last tour again due to umpires. No matter how good they are, it's all tainted as long as cricket is not played fairly. OZs have always enjoyed having two extra players (3 yesterday). But of course this will seem like rhetoric to you, after all it's based on watching cricket for more than the last decade, and not only through my tainted eyes but with BW's stats as well. Link to comment
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