veer Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 But how do we know that Gilly knew about it ? He does go up many times based on his instincts' date=' which may or may not be right. I dont trust him 100%, but if i have to trust one Aussie for my life, I'd go with Gilly.[/quote'] ok then lets just say he is the best among the worst.. Link to comment
Ram Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No cigar. I would not want to work in a company which has branded me a racist without any proof and wants me to stick around till the issue is pending appeal or such nonsense. I am yet to see or hear a single Ind team player or member of management come out and say - " Bhajji didnt say anything racist". Make your own judgments. Link to comment
sandtest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 God knows why you guys bring up the term PC for the most irrelevant situations ! It is because "educated" elite Indians, indoctrinated by anglicized media who never realize what PCness is. You know the worst thing about PCness is that the person who is a PC never realizes when he actually became a PC. Yes, systematic oppression indeed ! The indian team has been chained in cages without food for 7 weeks i suppose ! That shows, your logic..in modern time only "caging somebody without food for 7 weeks" is oppression...indeed you are a PC!! -- face it! Dude, do you even think before you type ! No, I never think before type, it's because blind PCs like you and Dhondy (who came up with 100% PC article in fine "polished" English yesterday) needs to be put to their place so that no further self-inflicted morality and holier than thou preaching. The priority now, must be to how to resolve things in the short term and not how to complicate things further. That is another "political statement"...You seem like BCCI spokesperson. Good job!! The priority at any time is not to Grease UP and Bend Over (GUBO)...because GUBOING will be exactly towing the BCCI line (BCCI babus will sell country for money if needed, anyway). The priority is to restore the Honor and Dignity of the country which Australia has sytematically maligned by victimizing Bhajji....heck even Autralian media as part of pre-planning published articles accusing Indian team as "casteist" and Brahmin dominated. Why we PC Indians can't see such facts?? Calling off a tour like this will have immense long-term adverse consequences ! Do you even realize what kind of precedent that might set ? Yeah...I am sinking by fear.....what consequences?? please list and let us see if BCCI can't handle any of these. heck, BCCI has and can get so much money and sympathy of Indians here that they can RUN a parallel ICC if they have balls!! As i said, you right-wingers can keep moaning for ever, not even a single thing of what you want is gonna happen. As I said...it's left-wingers and PCs like you who betray any support to Nationalists so that leftists can feel "proud" about "morality" and all those nonsense.....that is why not a single thing gonna happen -- not only in Cricket but in several other fields which are more important than Cricket!! Link to comment
Bumper Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No evidence => Bhajji didnt say anything racist. Dont you think Proctor would have asked Sachin and Bhajji a very simple question on whether Bhajji actually said it. Their answer was obviously no. Link to comment
Chandan Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 I'll eat rat poison before trusting anyone in the Australian cricket team with my life. Agree with Shwetabh here. I have no respect even for Gilly now after yesterday's event. Apparently BCCI wants to resolve the Bhajji issue today itself as he has been needlessly vilified without any evidence or else the tour is cancelled!! Link to comment
Ram Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No evidence => Bhajji didnt say anything racist. Dont you think Proctor would have asked Sachin and Bhajji a very simple question on whether Bhajji actually said it. Their answer was obviously no. How do you know Bhajji/Sachin said No ? Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I am yet to see or hear a single Ind team player or member of management come out and say - " Bhajji didnt say anything racist". Make your own judgments. Tendulkar has already said so. Link to comment
Bumper Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 How do you know Bhajji/Sachin said No ? If they said 'yes', wouldnt that constitute evidence ? Link to comment
Ram Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Tendulkar has already said so. Where ? Source ? If you refer to his usual mundane " Things happen on the field" with his typical smiling face, please ! Link to comment
Ram Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 If they said 'yes'' date=' wouldnt that constitute evidence ?[/quote'] As i said, none of us actually know what either Sachin/Harbhajan had said ! Link to comment
sandtest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 How do you know Bhajji/Sachin said No ? The day this incident happen, Sachin already said in a press-conference, there was nothing of racist like in his statement to press....that ends the whole speculation. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Where ? Source ? If you refer to his usual mundane " Things happen on the field" with his typical smiling face, please ! I don't know what else you want. He was clearly asked if Harbhajan said anything racist(or monkey, something to the effect) and he said it was nothing serious and one of those things that happen on the field. Link to comment
Rajiv Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What is the latest? is it called off or not, I am mixed up Link to comment
Bumper Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 U are driving in circles, Sriram. Proctor met Bhajji, Sachin and the Aussies. Due to lack of evidence from TV, he had to rely on the players's version. Aussies obviously accused Bhajji. Indians denied it. Hence this is based on the word of one party vs another. If OTOH, Bhajji or Sachin admitted to the word that was supposedly uttered, that would have constituted evidence from the horse's mouth. Link to comment
Ram Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I don't know what else you want. He was clearly asked if Harbhajan said anything racist(or monkey' date=' something to the effect) and he said it was nothing serious and one of those things that happen on the field.[/quote'] Could you please get me either a video or a quote to this context ? Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Arre yaar, it's somewhere in the videos section. I am not one to make up stuff, you would know that by now. Link to comment
Ram Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 U are driving in circles, Sriram. Proctor met Bhajji, Sachin and the Aussies. Due to lack of evidence from TV, he had rely on the players's version. Aussies obviously accused Bhajji. Indians denied it. Hence this is based on the word of one party vs another. If OTOH, Bhajji or Sachin admitted to the word that was supposedly uttered, that would have constituted evidence from the horse's mouth. How could Prctor possibly make his judgment based on Aussie player testimonials ? For him to have made the decision he has made, he obv has some evidence, dont know what it is though. Link to comment
Ram Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Arre yaar' date=' it's somewhere in the videos section. I am not one to make up stuff, you would know that by now.[/quote'] I just get a feeling Sachin was at his usual diplomatic best, thats why. Anyways, BCCI has OFFICIALLY said that the racism allegation against Bhajji is "unfair and FALSE". That kinda hits the nail on the head. Obv, the team thinks he wasnt at fault. Link to comment
chunky_lafanga Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What is the latest? is it called off or not' date=' I am mixed up[/quote'] You are not the only one :hysterical: Link to comment
Bumper Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 How could Prctor possibly make his judgment based on Aussie player testimonials ? For him to have made the decision he has made' date=' he obv has some evidence, dont know what it is though.[/quote'] He may have consulted on field umpires. U know what they are gonna say, right :hysterical: And if Steve Farkner, is cited as evidence for hearing Bhajji's Indian accent from that distance, when he could not hear his own fart, u gotta question the IQ of Proctor. Link to comment
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