FAO : Tendulkar rubbishers

[Shakthi]

India has reached only one world tournament final. You talk as if he has failed in 10 matches. For heavensake chasing 360 in 2003 was unheard of.

Bhai i think u need to bring stats of Sachin scores in Finals that way nballa will shut up. I also know that when ever sachin scored 100 in finals india won the match.

[King Tendulkar]

I could have loads of fun here and bump loads of thread from a few years back when many so called esteemed posters wanted sachins head on a platter:hysterical: I could have a field day:giggle:

[SachDan]

I could have loads of fun here and bump loads of thread from a few years back when many so called esteemed posters wanted sachins head on a platter:hysterical:

Now they have turned in to real 'Lurker's :giggle:

[CSK Fan]

Where are all the threads calling for the dropping of Dravid and caliming that he is holding up a place n the side? I personally am a fan and don't think he should be dropped, but everyone who were asking for Sachin's head should also do the same for Dravid otherwise they are hypocrites of the worst kind!

[Anakin]

My point still stands. I would love to see 10 posts (not even threads, come on) on RSD's slump as heinous as on SRT from these so called objective (delusional of course) fans.

[Guest Gunner]

Where are all the threads calling for the dropping of Dravid and caliming that he is holding up a place n the side? I personally am a fan and don't think he should be dropped' date=' but everyone who were asking for Sachin's head should also do the same for Dravid [b']otherwise they are hypocrites of the worst kind!

No! They are objective even handed critics. What do you want them to tear their shirt and show you like Hanuman how much they love each player? :phehehe:

[CSK Fan]

No! They are objective even handed critics. What do you want them to tear their shirt and show you like Hanuman how much they love each player? :phehehe:

More like an agnipariksha to prove their purity before they are allowed to stand of the right side of God fans again!

[The Outsider]

Not really. There was an extended period when SRT's test performance was mediocre. Just because he is playing at unbelievable levels now, doesn't change things then. It is similar to what Dravid is going through now and people calling for him to retire.

Thats right, but there is no point trying to explain to the some of the hard-core worshippers here (whether or not their userid has the moniker of srt or its variation). In fact, Rajiv recently asked people not to bump up old threads for this purpose, but holy baba has done just that. If people are balanced, this issue wont arise, but when they go on blind worship - and are like "If you are not with me, you are against me", then explanation wont help.

If you guys are saying the amount of vitriol Tendulkar got is even comparable to the mild criticism Dravid is getting then either the two of you have short memories or are just plain lying. Just a simple search on ICF for those dates will give you an idea about calls for him being selfish, playing for money only, calling into question his commitment by posters as well as the media. And the notion that 'any player who fails to average XYZ in ABC innings' should be dropped or asked to retire because 'only performance should be the criteria' is just plain dumb. And I had mentioned this during those days as well, that Tendulkar is not 'any player'. The combination of his talent level and work ethic puts him in a different category. Some fans of Dravid thought that just because Dravid had a few superb years and had a better 'average' than Tendulkar, he became a better player and the same standards should be applied to both. It simply cannot work that way in a sport. You cannot just read off numbers, otherwise you would not need selectors but some stats guru queries would be able to select teams for you. In this idea of being 'balanced' you want to equate the standards of selection of the best batsman of his generation with the failures of others. It simply cannot work like that. When Tendulkar supporters or people appreciative and discerning enough to identify that extra something he brings over and above any other player made these points which cannot be found in stats guru queries, they were called 'worshipers' and 'partial'. Well now their perception of the game has been vindicated and your reading of numbers and averages has been proved to be insufficient for the understanding of cricket. Surely, some of these people who were proved right will gloat over it now, after having been subject to various adjectives - it's human nature. But I don't expect you guys to understand all this even now for your posts are still singing the same old tunes of years back, 'every player should have same criteria', 'perf should be only criteria' etc. etc. Seclude yourself from perf., numbers, and stats and watch Tendulkar's 121 at Birmingham or his 177 at Bangalore in isolation to understand what separates Tendulkar's batting and artistry from anyone in his generation. When you understand the balance, poise, stroke making which make Tendulkar above and beyond any of the Dravids and Pontings, you will also cease on these bookish criteria of selection being used for him.

[Guest Gunner]

Seclude yourself from perf.' date=' numbers, and stats and watch Tendulkar's 121 at Birmingham or his 177 at Bangalore in isolation to understand what separates Tendulkar's batting and artistry from anyone in his generation. When you understand the balance, poise, stroke making which make Tendulkar above and beyond any of the Dravids and Pontings, you will also cease on these bookish criteria of selection being used for him.[/quote'] That sums it up. The sheer beauty and artistry of SRT's batting will never again be replicated. His batting represents the range of human emotions from fear and self doubt all the way to unbridled exuberance. Every color of the rainbow and some more. The midget :icflove:

[King Tendulkar]

If you guys are saying the amount of vitriol Tendulkar got is even comparable to the mild criticism Dravid is getting then either the two of you have short memories or are just plain lying. Just a simple search on ICF for those dates will give you an idea about calls for him being selfish, playing for money only, calling into question his commitment by posters as well as the media. And the notion that 'any player who fails to average XYZ in ABC innings' should be dropped or asked to retire because 'only performance should be the criteria' is just plain dumb. And I had mentioned this during those days as well, that Tendulkar is not 'any player'. The combination of his talent level and work ethic puts him in a different category. Some fans of Dravid thought that just because Dravid had a few superb years and had a better 'average' than Tendulkar, he became a better player and the same standards should be applied to both. It simply cannot work that way in a sport. You cannot just read off numbers, otherwise you would not need selectors but some stats guru queries would be able to select teams for you. In this idea of being 'balanced' you want to equate the standards of selection of the best batsman of his generation with the failures of others. It simply cannot work like that. When Tendulkar supporters or people appreciative and discerning enough to identify that extra something he brings over and above any other player made these points which cannot be found in stats guru queries, they were called 'worshipers' and 'partial'. Well now their perception of the game has been vindicated and your reading of numbers and averages has been proved to be insufficient for the understanding of cricket. Surely, some of these people who were proved right will gloat over it now, after having been subject to various adjectives - it's human nature. But I don't expect you guys to understand all this even now for your posts are still singing the same old tunes of years back, 'every player should have same criteria', 'perf should be only criteria' etc. etc. Seclude yourself from perf., numbers, and stats and watch Tendulkar's 121 at Birmingham or his 177 at Bangalore in isolation to understand what separates Tendulkar's batting and artistry from anyone in his generation. When you understand the balance, poise, stroke making which make Tendulkar above and beyond any of the Dravids and Pontings, you will also cease on these bookish criteria of selection being used for him.

Bloody hell what a post:clap:

[gaurav92]

If you guys are saying the amount of vitriol Tendulkar got is even comparable to the mild criticism Dravid is getting then either the two of you have short memories or are just plain lying. Just a simple search on ICF for those dates will give you an idea about calls for him being selfish, playing for money only, calling into question his commitment by posters as well as the media. And the notion that 'any player who fails to average XYZ in ABC innings' should be dropped or asked to retire because 'only performance should be the criteria' is just plain dumb. And I had mentioned this during those days as well, that Tendulkar is not 'any player'. The combination of his talent level and work ethic puts him in a different category. Some fans of Dravid thought that just because Dravid had a few superb years and had a better 'average' than Tendulkar, he became a better player and the same standards should be applied to both. It simply cannot work that way in a sport. You cannot just read off numbers, otherwise you would not need selectors but some stats guru queries would be able to select teams for you. In this idea of being 'balanced' you want to equate the standards of selection of the best batsman of his generation with the failures of others. It simply cannot work like that. When Tendulkar supporters or people appreciative and discerning enough to identify that extra something he brings over and above any other player made these points which cannot be found in stats guru queries, they were called 'worshipers' and 'partial'. Well now their perception of the game has been vindicated and your reading of numbers and averages has been proved to be insufficient for the understanding of cricket. Surely, some of these people who were proved right will gloat over it now, after having been subject to various adjectives - it's human nature. But I don't expect you guys to understand all this even now for your posts are still singing the same old tunes of years back, 'every player should have same criteria', 'perf should be only criteria' etc. etc. Seclude yourself from perf., numbers, and stats and watch Tendulkar's 121 at Birmingham or his 177 at Bangalore in isolation to understand what separates Tendulkar's batting and artistry from anyone in his generation. When you understand the balance, poise, stroke making which make Tendulkar above and beyond any of the Dravids and Pontings, you will also cease on these bookish criteria of selection being used for him.

Very well said Prof. This should polish up their minds for sure.But the bigots wont change their mind :headshake:

[thevortex]

It simply cannot work that way in a sport. You cannot just read off numbers, otherwise you would not need selectors but some stats guru queries would be able to select teams for you.

:two_thumbs_up:

[Ram]

When Tendulkar supporters or people appreciative and discerning enough to identify that extra something he brings over and above any other player made these points which cannot be found in stats guru queries, they were called 'worshipers' and 'partial'. Well now their perception of the game has been vindicated and your reading of numbers and averages has been proved to be insufficient for the understanding of cricket. Surely, some of these people who were proved right will gloat over it now, after having been subject to various adjectives - it's human nature.

This, iLike. :icflove:

[jusarrived]

I was a hater in 2008 , for a reason ...I dint like the way he played between 2001-07 , never questioned his abilities , but his approach which hes completely changed in pas 2-3 years am happy Tendulkar has proved me wrong , but like any other player hes not immune to criticism .

[Anakin]

It is one thing to criticize, but criticism doesn't mean calling him names, other things Prof mentioned (including Godfather of Mumbai mafia) and wishing injuries upon him. And on the same note, where is that "objectivity" when it comes to RSD? What has been said about RSD is like gentle mumblings compared to war cries when it comes to SRT. And even now they have the gall to others worshipers, when in fact they are not only the biggest worshipers but strong haters as well.

[Manny_Pacquiao]

It is one thing to criticize, but criticism doesn't mean calling him names, other things Prof mentioned (including Godfather of Mumbai mafia) and wishing injuries upon him. And on the same note, where is that "objectivity" when it comes to RSD? What has been said about RSD is like gentle mumblings compared to war cries when it comes to SRT. And even now they have the gall to others worshipers, when in fact they are not only the biggest worshipers but strong haters as well.

i am not familiar with all that was said but i think its pointless to criticise dravid as he is gonna retire within a year anyway

[Karan114]

It is one thing to criticize' date=' but criticism doesn't mean calling him names, other things Prof mentioned (including Godfather of Mumbai mafia) and [b']wishing injuries upon him.

:omg:

[akshayxyz]

Rubishers - don't give up yet - all of Sachin's runs this year have come against 'lower' ranked sides. Easily easy runs, so not much valuable. /s

[Sachinism]

Rubishers - don't give up yet - all of Sachin's runs this year have come against 'lower' ranked sides. Easily easy runs, so not much valuable. /s

:--D I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually tried to use this

[dial_100]

It is one thing to criticize, but criticism doesn't mean calling him names, other things Prof mentioned (including Godfather of Mumbai mafia) and wishing injuries upon him. And on the same note, where is that "objectivity" when it comes to RSD? What has been said about RSD is like gentle mumblings compared to war cries when it comes to SRT. And even now they have the gall to others worshipers, when in fact they are not only the biggest worshipers but strong haters as well.

Anakin, why the heck you bring in RD every time man. Just relax. You exactly doing the same thing to RD what they did to SRT. So leave him alone focus on the topic. They have been proven wrong convincingly this time. But still, they should be released from this guilt now. After all you are GOD's fan. cant I expect that from you?