Guest Hiten. Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 After Churchies' arrival a new trend of WK-Batsman has been set. WK's are forced to bat with more responsibility and sense. So many WK/Batsman have emerged that now teams can actually dare to drop a genuine batsman to replace him with a bowler and strengthen the bowling line up. Lets look at some notable WK/Batsman since 1999/00 (not in any order): Gilly (aus) Boucher (RSA) Dhoni (Ind) Taibu (Zim) K. Sangakkara (SL) Mccullum (NZ) <-- He is emerging as the next big thing in NZ to say the least Phil Mustard (eng) <-- As Salil mentioned, this bloke has behemoth talent Brad Haddin (Aus) Cricket has NEVER seen these many Wicket Keeper - Batsman bat so good, (OR) has it ?
Guest Hiten. Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 u left out s angakkarara rofl whoops. my bad
fineleg Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Gilly My admiration for Gilly grew by the day ever since I saw the Gilchrist-Justin Langer partnership in Test match vs Pak (was it like 7th wicket or something)...can anyone point me to the exact match scorecard...I dont remember much of the other match details apart from their partnership.
Guest Hiten. Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Gilly My admiration for Gilly grew by the day ever since I saw the Gilchrist-Justin Langer partnership in Test match vs Pak (was it like 7th wicket or something)...can anyone point me to the exact match scorecard...I dont remember much of the other match details apart from their partnership. http://content-www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63855.html
Zap_Brannigan Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Nope, gilly wasn't the one who started the trend. WK-batsmen existed before Gilly. But he was the 1st great one. The trend didn't start from him, it rather gained popularity with him.
Guest Hiten. Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Wow!!! Yes thatz the one...brilliant gilly If I am not wrong, either Gilly or Langer (I am not sure who) was not given out, which according to pakistani fans was a umpiring blunder in down under (yet again). Maybe some pakistani fans shed some light on to this.
gator Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 explosive WK batters existed much before.... Gilly is jus the most successful... Kaluwitharan was good for a lil while in odis... moin khan was pretty fierce....latif was not bad... Gilly is definitely a legend because he was better than all of em.... but definitely not the trendsetter... engineer was an excellent agressive strokeplayer.... his own fellow countryman, Rod Marsh was pretty powerful strokeplayer himself....
Zap_Brannigan Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Nope' date=' gilly wasn't the one who started the trend. WK-batsmen existed before Gilly. But he was the 1st great one. The trend didn't start from him, it rather gained popularity with him.[/quote'] explosive WK batters existed much before.... Gilly is jus the most successful... Kaluwitharan was good for a lil while in odis... moin khan was pretty fierce....latif was not bad... Gilly is definitely a legend because he was better than all of em.... but definitely not the trendsetter... engineer was an excellent agressive strokeplayer.... his own fellow countryman, Rod Marsh was pretty powerful strokeplayer himself....
Chandan Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 And how could you people forget Andy Flower and Alec Stewart? Or are you taking about ODIs only?
mhr123 Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 If I am not wrong' date=' either Gilly or Langer (I am not sure who) was not given out, which according to pakistani fans was a umpiring blunder in down under (yet again). Maybe some pakistani fans shed some light on to this.[/quote'] Today it was nonetheless, unfortunate that when Pakistan did on the rare occasion get through the defences of Adam Gilchrist and Justin Langer, they were denied the wickets. Shortly after Pakistan had taken the new ball, Justin Langer, on 76, appeared clearly to have snicked one to wicket-keeper Moin Khan off Wasim Akram but 'home' umpire Parker ruled that not out. Australia's total then was 5 for 237, chasing 369. A decision such as that and in such circumstances of a vitally important. Test match can break the spirit of a team. but i am INDIAN http://content-www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/83352.html
Guest Hiten. Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Today it was nonetheless, unfortunate that when Pakistan did on the rare occasion get through the defences of Adam Gilchrist and Justin Langer, they were denied the wickets. Shortly after Pakistan had taken the new ball, Justin Langer, on 76, appeared clearly to have snicked one to wicket-keeper Moin Khan off Wasim Akram but 'home' umpire Parker ruled that not out. Australia's total then was 5 for 237, chasing 369. A decision such as that and in such circumstances of a vitally important. Test match can break the spirit of a team. but i am INDIAN http://content-www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/83352.html Thanks
Gambit Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Kalu etc were not destructive in test cricket and never in test cricket history had a number 7 wk bat been that feared. The series where Gilly's batting had the most impact IMO was Ashes 2001 where he kept coming in at
Lurker Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Lets look at some notable WK/Batsman since 1999/00 (not in any order): Gilly (aus) Boucher (RSA) Dhoni (Ind) Taibu (Zim) K. Sangakkara (SL) Mccullum (NZ) Phil Mustard (eng) Brad Haddin (Aus) Cricket has NEVER seen these many Wicket Keeper - Batsman bat so good, (OR) has it ? How many of the wicket-keepers you mentioned are a certainly in their all-time team XI? Maybe Gilly and Sangakarra. Possibly Boucher too while its early days for MS Dhoni. Cant see a McCullum being picked ahead of Ian Smith, Taibu ahead of Andy Flower, Mustarad ahead of Alan Knott etc etc. And I would also argue that all the confirmed picks - Gilly/Sangakarra/Boucher - will possibly be picked more for their batting than pure keeping skills. The wicket-keeping scenario in 70s/80s was pretty formidable as well. Sample this: Jeff Dujon(West Indies) Alan Knott/Bob Taylor(England) Rod Marsh(Aus) Farokh Engineer/Syed Kirmani(Ind) Wasim Bari(Pakistan) All of these names are a contender of the all-time XI for their team specially Dujon/Knott/Marsh/Engineer/Bari. xxx
Chaos Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 he is as good as ANY player who played this game, his contribution to the game in GREAT!
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