Dil Dil India Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: they cannot release him. the case from indian govt is about having consular access as he is a "retired" ex-officer not spy. I said nothing about releasing - I am talking about declaring him innocent. So I take it you won't answer. Just as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: As I said, you are being disingenuous. You want to disregard your own AIR MARSHALL's words simply because it doesn't suit your narrative. Regardless of semantics, Pakistan initiated everything and lost everything, as per the words of your own AIR MARSHALL. as i said before, wars and battles are two different things, try to google it. its very simple to understand. also, i can share some of videos here where your own ex-army officer said kargil "war" was not won by india. sure you re-gain back your peaks but after heavy casualties. so whos to believe ? as i said, it was stalemate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVLd2g5cImA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: was based. JEM is officially banned in pakistan since 2001. Even you couldn't have kept a straight face typing that man, come on. This is a forum, you are anonymous. Admit the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: Even you couldn't have kept a straight face typing that man, come on. This is a forum, you are anonymous. Admit the truth. i am saying the official stance of govt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: I said nothing about releasing - I am talking about declaring him innocent. So I take it you won't answer. Just as expected. if innocent thn we will follow the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 This is the problem with people like @KeyboardWarrior . They want evidence and tread this delusional line. While someone like Hafiz Saeed plans and perpetuates a terrorist attack once in a while in India, he sits in Pakistan and brainwashes and recruits Pakistani youth. Tell me what has larger implications? Sure these guys might get some kind of a hard-on when attacks happen in India but most times, these camps recruit young people from Islam that these Pakistanis are such ardent defenders of who are mostly Pakistanis. The country has come to a stage where it is living off on Charity. while it is good that you are boasting about the Arab prince investing in your country,good for you, you need to ask yourself as a "student of defense" why did your country come to this stage,where you are on a brink of economic collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: Again, Obama wasn't publicly going to say that Pakistan were aware of OBL's whereabouts when he was bleating on about Pak being an ally in the WOT. Quoting Hilary on anything actually weakens your case. Besides, we could pull out several quotes from high ranking American officials who haven't had favourable things to say about Pak in this matter. Forget everything - hand on heart just tell me this: The most wanted terrorist had been living less than a km away from your military base or whatever close to your capital and Pakistan had no clue? What are the chances? It can only mean 2 things: Pakistan are grossly incompetent Pakistan are complicit Which is it? Pakistan are grossly incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, KeyboardWarrior said: as i said before, wars and battles are two different things, try to google it. its very simple to understand. also, i can share some of videos here where your own ex-army officer said kargil "war" was not won by india. sure you re-gain back your peaks but after heavy casualties. so whos to believe ? as i said, it was stalemate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVLd2g5cImA Again, you are trying to obfuscate. I said I don't care about semantics - I am aware of the technical differences between wars and battles thanks. We don't need to do "a course in defence" for that in India to know that. The video you posted I am aware of and have debunked it several times on your forums. He clearly says that in the context of the lives lost in the war and the failure to consolidate the GAINS politically in the aftermath - do you guys even read what you post? Musharraf refused to claim dead bodies. Simple fact is this: Pak instigated the war (BEYOND DEBATE), used their loser "strategic assets" cowards as usual who were destroyed by the Indian army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: i am saying the official stance of govt. So you are simply parroting the official line while knowing the truth? Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, maniac said: Are you issuing an official statement like a lawyer or PR agent. I mean who talks like that lol. So blame for what. tipping the US for catching the world's most dreaded criminal? blame to tipping the US for OBL. as he should inform the police first. (something like that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Just now, KeyboardWarrior said: blame to tipping the US for OBL. as he should inform the police first. (something like that) That's got to be an attempt at a joke Edited February 20, 2019 by maniac rkt.india and Laaloo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: Pakistan are grossly incompetent. If they are so incompetent that they can't detect the most wanted terrorist living a few hundred meters from their base..then your security forces must be the worst in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, maniac said: This is the problem with people like @KeyboardWarrior . They want evidence and tread this delusional line. While someone like Hafiz Saeed plans and perpetuates a terrorist attack once in a while in India, he sits in Pakistan and brainwashes and recruits Pakistani youth. Tell me what has larger implications? Sure these guys might get some kind of a hard-on when attacks happen in India but most times, these camps recruit young people from Islam that these Pakistanis are such ardent defenders of who are mostly Pakistanis. The country has come to a stage where it is living off on Charity. while it is good that you are boasting about the Arab prince investing in your country,good for you, you need to ask yourself as a "student of defense" why did your country come to this stage,where you are on a brink of economic collapse. WOT, we lost $300+ Billion dollars in last 19 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: let pakistanis worried about this. What the heck?! I am saying Pakistan may think twice about pulling off something stupid. And btw, as an Indian I DO WORRY about the terrorism in Pakistan because it will affect my country too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Your fault, nobody put a gun on your head to train the nascent Taliban, Jaish, Hizbul & other terror outfits in South Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: Again, you are trying to obfuscate. I said I don't care about semantics - I am aware of the technical differences between wars and battles thanks. We don't need to do "a course in defence" for that in India to know that. The video you posted I am aware of and have debunked it several times on your forums. He clearly says that in the context of the lives lost in the war and the failure to consolidate the GAINS politically in the aftermath - do you guys even read what you post? Musharraf refused to claim dead bodies. Simple fact is this: Pak instigated the war (BEYOND DEBATE), used their loser "strategic assets" cowards as usual who were destroyed by the Indian army. the videos you have shared here, they both said on record that surgical strikes never happend. so whos to believe ? i can share that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: What the heck?! I am saying Pakistan may think twice about pulling off something stupid. And btw, as an Indian I DO WORRY about the terrorism in Pakistan because it will affect my country too. FATF or no FATF, nothing will work against pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: WOT, we lost $300+ Billion dollars in last 19 years. Whose fault is it? You can blame USA,Russia, India,Iran,Israel,Afghanistan but you know the answer for who is the main culprit. It is your army and it's policies. But of course as a student of defense studies whatever the fk that is, you won't be able to answer that publicly even if you know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: WOT, we lost $300+ Billion dollars in last 19 years. This is the problem right here. You want to pin all the blame on USA and the Soviet Union (and of course India, Israel and everyone else) but you refuse to acknowledge that the major issue is Pakistan providing a safe haven for terrorists and using them as strategic assets. Ultimately, a snake is a snake and recognizes no master. It will bite and kill you in the end...which is what happened in Pak with all the terrorist groups your establishment was supporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: If they are so incompetent that they can't detect the most wanted terrorist living a few hundred meters from their base..then your security forces must be the worst in the world. yup we are. what can i say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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