Stop making two pace pitches or turners- these arent ideal for t20 Wc preparation

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Which includes team composition as a major reason for our failure. 

 

Filled the team with consolidators and short medium pacers.

 

these pitches will make consolidators look valuable

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

these pitches will make consolidators look valuable

 

 

Consolidators are not valuable on two paced pitches. 

 

You need batters who are selective in their stroke play but still play fast enough.

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

You need batters who are selective in their stroke play but still play fast enough.

 

or say guys like dhawan iyer manish who has strokes but has limitation but in long run affects the attacking brand of cricket

[Serpico]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Coz england bats same way on any pitch

This is the point, isn't it? The problem here lies in abilities, so what's the point in blaming pitches? In an icc tournament you should be prepared to all kinds of pitches

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, Serpico said:

This is the point, isn't it? The problem here lies in abilities, so what's the point in blaming pitches? In an icc tournament you should be prepared to all kinds of pitches

 

coz most of our batsman will struggle on such pitches even if we take the attackings ones....we have historically not liked such pitches

ICC prepares patta...the 2019 xample u a gave was coz it was a long tournament and pitches start to wear down

[Serpico]

13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

coz most of our batsman will struggle on such pitches even if we take the attackings ones....we have historically not liked such pitches

ICC prepares patta...the 2019 xample u a gave was coz it was a long tournament and pitches start to wear down

Do you have any stats to say that we historically have better win% on flat pitches? I always felt that we get blown away on flatties as our bowlers find it hard to contain. Wc final in 03, wc semis 2015, ct final 2017 for example. In comparison, Wt20 2007, ct 2013 had low scoring games that we dominated and won them. Even 2011 didn't have too flat pitches.

 

2019 had sub 300 scores throughout the tourney

[Ankit_sharma03]

28 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Do you have any stats to say that we historically have better win% on flat pitches? I always felt that we get blown away on flatties as our bowlers find it hard to contain. Wc final in 03, wc semis 2015, ct final 2017 for example. In comparison, Wt20 2007, ct 2013 had low scoring games that we dominated and won them. Even 2011 didn't have too flat pitches.

 

2019 had sub 300 scores throughout the tourney

the xamples u gave were under pressure but our batsman are stroke player u put them on spungy , two pace wkts they ll struggle .

Low scoring games doesnt mean two pace wkts always

 

[neel roy]

11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Our batsman have never like two pace wkts and they arent even good for t20 cricket. Now i fully expect us to make a turner to win series which wont help in long run. As that turner plan will become our backup plan which we may implement in Wc also but on a given day anything can happen like in 2016 Wc when NZ screwed us on a turner. Pitches in Wc wud be under Icc so it wud be mostly patta so prepare acc to them. Its also just not this year next yr wud also be t20 Wc in Australia and those wkts are true pattas as well. So dnt prepare such wkts this wont help us as will end up selecting batting for such wkts on pattas and end up falling short most days

 

 

 

exactly. Instead of selection issues this would be a good point. But counter is some pitches in india do turn and bounce. Nagpur 2016 was prime example.. but yes this should be the benchmark. Whatever said and done Sena countries produce consistent pitches for t20 is.  In india its a lottery. I mean even chinnaswamy from a batting paradise is now a difficult pitch. Have we ever heard Sydney odi pitches have changed or for that matter oval..