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Stop making two pace pitches or turners- these arent ideal for t20 Wc preparation


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Our batsman have never like two pace wkts and they arent even good for t20 cricket. Now i fully expect us to make a turner to win series which wont help in long run. As that turner plan will become our backup plan which we may implement in Wc also but on a given day anything can happen like in 2016 Wc when NZ screwed us on a turner. Pitches in Wc wud be under Icc so it wud be mostly patta so prepare acc to them. Its also just not this year next yr wud also be t20 Wc in Australia and those wkts are true pattas as well. So dnt prepare such wkts this wont help us as will end up selecting batting for such wkts on pattas and end up falling short most days

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Our batsman have never like two pace wkts and they arent even good for t20 cricket. Now i fully expect us to make a turner to win series which wont help in long run. As that turner plan will become our backup plan which we may implement in Wc also but on a given day anything can happen like in 2016 Wc when NZ screwed us on a turner. Pitches in Wc wud be under Icc so it wud be mostly patta so prepare acc to them. Its also just not this year next yr wud also be t20 Wc in Australia and those wkts are true pattas as well. So dnt prepare such wkts this wont help us as will end up selecting batting for such wkts on pattas and end up falling short most days

 

 

 

First. Pick the *ing best team. For that to happen, heads need to roll or Kohli needs to quit captaincy. 

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7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

pick any batsman most of our batsman from last 20-30 yrs have never liked such pitches. Our batsman enjoy true batting wkts rather these 2 pace wkts

Well there are plenty of better fast bowlers in our setup. 

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8 minutes ago, sandeep said:

stop looking for secondary reasons and excuses when the fundamental problem is the captaincy and batting tactics.  Everything else is a tangent.

This ain an excuse this is actually another problem which will come back to bite us- preparing on wrong surface will lead to wrong selection coz with kohli every player becomes good or bad in a span of 1-2 games . Every strategy becomes good or bad with opposite results in 1-2 games

No one is denying captaincy problems - uss problem ka to ab kya hi bole

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4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

But batsman will still have to put runs on board

True but at least give the youngsters a chance. I have seen sky, Kishan and co do well on such type of pitches. Just need opportunities. 

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4 hours ago, bowl_out said:

Novice question - What is a two paced wicket? Why does it impact our batsmen and not theirs? Roy and Buttler seemed completely unfazed by the pitch or conditions

Good observation. Two paced wickets are a real thing though. A strip where some parts are hard(allowing the ball to skid and bounce) and other parts are relatively softer which offers more grip. The problem with us was we hardly bowled at good pace to extract this advantage whereas they had atleast three guys who were bowling 145+. The extra pace makes the natural variation more pronounced. Our batsmen were missing or failing to time most deliveries which is quite uncharacteristic.

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6 hours ago, bowl_out said:

Novice question - What is a two paced wicket? Why does it impact our batsmen and not theirs? Roy and Buttler seemed completely unfazed by the pitch or conditions

That is because (relating to what our captain and every Indian expert spoke about) our team do not skills to score on such track against such a high quality attack

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8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Our batsman have never like two pace wkts and they arent even good for t20 cricket. Now i fully expect us to make a turner to win series which wont help in long run. As that turner plan will become our backup plan which we may implement in Wc also but on a given day anything can happen like in 2016 Wc when NZ screwed us on a turner. Pitches in Wc wud be under Icc so it wud be mostly patta so prepare acc to them. Its also just not this year next yr wud also be t20 Wc in Australia and those wkts are true pattas as well. So dnt prepare such wkts this wont help us as will end up selecting batting for such wkts on pattas and end up falling short most days

 

 

 

How do you know pitches under icc will be patta? 2019 wc didn't have pattas like everyone were predicting.

 

Archer, wood have bowled very well and England batted like they always do. Calling it two paced, spin friendly is all just lying to ourselves. Our main batsmen are horribly out of form and our captain has brainworms and will not change anything

 

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29 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

The pitch was definitely two paced but we need to stop making excuses for pitches. If you are international batsman/bowler, you need to do well on all surfaces. Otherwise, there are others who can take your spot. 

Exactly. Just because it's white ball cricket doesn't mean they should be national highways. Early 2000 had pitches like this all the time, if they are good players they should be able to win on them. Otherwise they deserve the failure

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31 minutes ago, Serpico said:

How do you know pitches under icc will be patta? 2019 wc didn't have pattas like everyone were predicting.

 

Its comman sense and even if u see comman nature pitches its mostly flat in india.

 

31 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Archer, wood have bowled very well and England batted like they always do. Calling it two paced, spin friendly is all just lying to ourselves. Our main batsmen are horribly out of form and our captain has brainworms and will not change anything

 

 Coz england bats same way on any pitch and they knew the target. 

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