Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) Criteria: 3 format players and not T20 specialists Rohit Kohli Williamson Smith Stokes MSD (WK) Cummins Ashwin Bumrah Bhuvi Shami Reserves: Holder,Jadeja,Rahane,Rahul,Boult,Dhawan,Warner,Mayank Picked 4 overseas players. How many T20 specialist X1 can beat this team? Not in a one off scenario but consistently ? Also purposely excluding other elite players Morgan,Gayle,Bairstow,Archer,Butler and ABD who might be considered T20 specialists Question for @Ankit_sharma03 @zen Edited April 6, 2021 by Global.Baba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 its not a good side. Jitne individual brilliance se they can they will but not tournament. Side stinks of RCB syndrome ...all big names but half misfit on wrong roles. Every cricketer is at his best if used properly. No better example then rohit whose career looks different when at right and when at wrong role. Since u gave films analogy, ill give u a similar example..this is how films are screwed by producers and financers as they plan to take all stars and give a zero * about script. Multi star cast bas scriptwriter lena bhul gaye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Damn i can rip this side point by point into pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Criteria: 3 format players and not T20 specialists Rohit Kohli Williamson Smith Stokes MSD (WK) Cummins Ashwin Bumrah Bhuvi Shami Reserves: Holder,Jadeja,Rahane,Rahul Picked 4 overseas players. How many T20 specialist X1 can beat this team? Not in a one off scenario but consistently ? Also purposely excluding other elite players Morgan,Gayle,Bairstow,Archer,Butler and ABD who might be considered T20 specialists Question for @Ankit_sharma03 @zen It would depend upon whom the above is playing. If playing the team below, not many (may be the above would win 1 in 5 games) Kishan Samson SKY Pant SDP Pollard Sundar Rashid Archer Boult Nathu Reserves: Morgan, Russell, Starc, Rabada, Norjke, Sakib, Tewatia, D Chahar, Thakur, Krishna, Saini, Tyagi, R Chahar, Varun C, Paddikal, Gaikwad, Agarwal, Gill, ... Edited April 6, 2021 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, zen said: It would depend upon whom the above is playing. If below, not many (may be the above would win 1 in 5 games) Kishan Samson SKY Pant SDP Pollard Sundar Rashid Archer Boult Nathu Reserves: Morgan, Russell, Starc, Rabada, Norjke, Sakib, Tewatia, D Chahar, Thakur, Krishna, Saini, R Chahar, Varun C, Paddikal, Gaikwad, Agarwal, Gill, ... good team. Forgot to add Boult to my list. Can be considered an Elite as well. Anyways bowling looks weak against that elite line up or Ro-Ko, Smith and Williamson. They will tear down this bowling bar may be Rashid. Archer is no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just now, Global.Baba said: good team. Forgot to add Boult to my list. Can be considered an Elite as well. Anyways bowling looks weak against that elite line up or Ro-Ko, Smith and Williamson. They will tear down this bowling bar may be Rashid. Archer is no big deal. IMO, Ro-Ko ensures that the other team has the advantage ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, zen said: It would depend upon whom the above is playing. If playing the team below, not many (may be the above would win 1 in 5 games) Kishan Samson SKY Pant SDP Pollard Sundar Rashid Archer Boult Nathu Reserves: Morgan, Russell, Starc, Rabada, Norjke, Sakib, Tewatia, D Chahar, Thakur, Krishna, Saini, Tyagi, R Chahar, Varun C, Paddikal, Gaikwad, Agarwal, Gill, ... U didnt use matchups correctly , u also need to screw their bowling with batting . Their batting itself is suicidal most days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 Adding Boult, Dhawan, Mayank and Warner to my elite list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Adding Boult, Dhawan, Mayank and Warner to my elite list Warner belongs to t20 list ....he made a transition through t20s. Abdv deserves to be in elite list more then warner. Abdv was a top gun in test Edited April 6, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Global.Baba said: Adding Boult, Dhawan, Mayank and Warner to my elite list Too much nervousness baba ... go ahead and make both the teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: Warner belongs to t20 list ....he made a transition through t20s. yes that is why he is such a unique case study but last 2 seasons he doesn’t play like a “modern day” T20 player like he used to Debatable but that’s fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 Can you imagine just looking at the elite dugout, the “modern day” boys will start to mentally disintegrate or be in awe and find their autograph books. Team Elite anyday over team “modern day” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: yes that is why he is such a unique case study but last 2 seasons he doesn’t play like a “modern day” T20 player like he used to Debatable but that’s fine. So i can screw ur side easily with my side. Just 2 question ...one is warner he actually is a t20 guy so he shud be in my list and abdv , rabadda are all 3 format top players. If its just about playing 3 formats butler , pandya, archer all of them play 3 formats . Even moeen ali plays 3 format actually ashwin isnt a 3 format player anymore. Decide ur list clearly so i can make mine n screw urs...ur logic makes abdv more suited in ur list then in other. 2nd - am i allowed 5 overseas players since u get 3 format players which means u have extremely larger pool ?? Edited April 6, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just now, Global.Baba said: Can you imagine just looking at the elite dugout, the “modern day” boys will start to mentally disintegrate or be in awe and find their autograph books. Team Elite anyday over team “modern day” you are probably taking about yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, zen said: you are probably taking about yourself how many of these “modern day” players will start their interview with “Mahi Bhai, Rohit bhai, Virat Bhayya” ? answer that to yourself honestly. cricket is 50% played in the mind and already half the work is done by team elite. Team “modern day” mostly cannot “think”, can only “play” if you know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: So i can screw ur side easily with my side. Just 2 question ...one is warner he actually is a t20 guy so he shud be in my list and abdv , rabadda are all 3 format top players. If its just about playing 3 formats butler , pandya, archer all of them play 3 formats . Even moeen ali plays 3 format actually ashwin isnt a 3 format player anymore. Decide ur list clearly so i can make mine n screw urs...ur logic makes abdv more suited in ur list then in other. 2nd - am i allowed 5 overseas players since u get 3 format players which means u have extremely larger pool ?? No thats fine you can use Warner because you might be struggling to put a competent X1 with “modern day” players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: No thats fine you can use Warner because you might be struggling to put a competent X1 with “modern day” players. Competant ll screw ur top 2 with a papplu card Edited April 6, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: how many of these “modern day” players will start their interview with “Mahi Bhai, Rohit bhai, Virat Bhayya” ? answer that to yourself honestly. cricket is 50% played in the mind and already half the work is done by team elite. Team “modern day” mostly cannot “think”, can only “play” if you know what I mean So then should not be winning IPL as it hardly has 3 format players To be considered a proper 3 format player, one should have played like 50 tests like de Kock and Boult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 In the OP's 11 many are not even proper test players and/or played 50 tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, zen said: So then should not be winning IPL as it hardly has 3 format players To be considered a proper 3 format player, one should have played like 50 tests like de Kock and Boult I consider Dekock an elite player. Boult the bowler- Elite Rohit the batsman/opener and captain- Elite Dekock the batsman/opener and keeper- Elite Yes the “modern day” players play around them and unleash their beastly potentials under their guidance. I mean Cmon even Saurabh Tiwary looks at least a 100 bucks in This is the kind of eliteness I like to see even if it is a T20 format. Edited April 6, 2021 by Global.Baba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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