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2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

If that was applied everywhere, Dalmiya would have never been BCCI chief.

Dalmiya was a smart businessman. He looked at cricket as money making machine. With his background he was SME in making money. He got money going into Indian cricket. An IAS officer would have never done it.

 

I think you have answered my question better than I could.

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3 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

How did you reach to this conclusion?

Do I have to explain that the bureaucracy in India is inefficient?

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In an ideal system, we can  definitely improve the administration by some radical changes but it is not feasible in a typical government settings which is sort of controlled by politicians who are always known their agenda and any change would lead to severe opposition and it'll be mired with controversies. 

a) A proper evaluation system which can release bottom 5% from administrations or demote them out of IAS every year

b) A proper recruitment system to bring in lateral hires who have done exceptional in other fields. 

c) A system where good administrators are promoted to higher grades without involvement of political bodies

d) Fixing a tenure of some of the key positions to 3 years so that they are given free hands to reforms the administration without much pressure. 

d) For some positions that involves common people's interest(DMs/DCs, CS etc) , people should have a say in assessment/retaining/recall etc. 

 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Khota said:

Dalmiya was a smart businessman. He looked at cricket as money making machine. With his background he was SME in making money. He got money going into Indian cricket. An IAS officer would have never done it.

 

I think you have answered my question better than I could.

 

No it doesn't my answer my question really.

 

Who is going to decide which area of expertise is required? Now in hindsight one can say that Dalmiya being a businessman was SME for the role required by BCCI.

 

However at same time a person could have claimed a cricketer with 50+ tests experience would be better admin than some businessman who knows nothing about cricket. Just like you can are saying that MD/Ph.D in Epidemiology and Infectious Diseases is more suited for managing covid crisis, even though role doesn't require in-depth expertise in Epidemiology, rather it requires understanding of local population, challenges faced by area, handling everything and taking decisions.

 

Dalmiya had people who could advise him cricket related details. Rest of the stuff related to dealing with boards and ICC he could manage. 

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51 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

No it doesn't my answer my question really.

 

Who is going to decide which area of expertise is required? Now in hindsight one can say that Dalmiya being a businessman was SME for the role required by BCCI.

 

However at same time a person could have claimed a cricketer with 50+ tests experience would be better admin than some businessman who knows nothing about cricket. Just like you can are saying that MD/Ph.D in Epidemiology and Infectious Diseases is more suited for managing covid crisis, even though role doesn't require in-depth expertise in Epidemiology, rather it requires understanding of local population, challenges faced by area, handling everything and taking decisions.

 

Dalmiya had people who could advise him cricket related details. Rest of the stuff related to dealing with boards and ICC he could manage. 

You have to split those roles. A pure cricket guy like Gavaskar could understand issues facing cricket but not the money making part. Similarly for Dalmiya, he knew how to make money but was clueless as far as cricket is concerned. One guy for cricket and another a business background.

 

Clearly an IAS officer with a recall knowledge is ill suited for both roles. No one in the world is running a country as inefficiently as India with IAS.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Khota said:

You have to split those roles. A pure cricket guy like Gavaskar could understand issues facing cricket but not the money making part. Similarly for Dalmiya, he knew how to make money but was clueless as far as cricket is concerned. One guy for cricket and another a business background.

 

Clearly an IAS officer with a recall knowledge is ill suited for both roles. No one in the world is running a country as inefficiently as India with IAS.

 

Lodha committee tried same thing and messed up Indian cricket administration.

 

The reason why attempting to find Gavaskar and Dalmiya  for each position isn't practical solution is the sheer number which is being ignored.

 

6500 IAS officers - with approx 200 being added every year. 

 

If an organization has few 100 members then it can try to recruiter highly experienced people and look for readymade solution.

 

Even in private companies, if number of employees is that high, they don't look for all experts only. They build their own talent pool. Why doesn't private org try hiring all experienced SMEs to maximise their profits?

 

My previous company used to do the same. They didn't hire many freshers and would hire only 4-5+ yearsexperienced people. Result was that they always struggled to find people when it was really needed to ramp up. They would always post jobs with immediate joining requirements. Additionally if it was for a particular skill set then they would struggle even more.

 

Once company started growing  (currently 5000+) they realized that this won't work in long time. They started hiring freshers from all over India and training them for future. This has been going for last 3 years.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Lodha committee tried same thing and messed up Indian cricket administration.

 

The reason why attempting to find Gavaskar and Dalmiya  for each position isn't practical solution is the sheer number which is being ignored.

 

6500 IAS officers - with approx 200 being added every year. 

 

If an organization has few 100 members then it can try to recruiter highly experienced people and look for readymade solution.

 

Even in private companies, if number of employees is that high, they don't look for all experts only. They build their own talent pool. Why doesn't private org try hiring all experienced SMEs to maximise their profits?

 

My previous company used to do the same. They didn't hire many freshers and would hire only 4-5+ yearsexperienced people. Result was that they always struggled to find people when it was really needed to ramp up. They would always post jobs with immediate joining requirements. Additionally if it was for a particular skill set then they would struggle even more.

 

Once company started growing  (currently 5000+) they realized that this won't work in long time. They started hiring freshers from all over India and training them for future. This has been going for last 3 years.

 

Big and small companies have diffent problems and they address them differently.

 

A small company has no choice but to hire experienced people because they dont have the resources to train.

 

Big companies already have key people in place so they can gradually bring in fresh of the street students.

 

In big companies the folks at the top are at the top of their game.

 

IAS officers never develope any critical skill set by being DM this year, then work for ministry of Industry, then get a foreigh posting. It is a joke.

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