speedheat Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: The issue is KPs and hindus in general want to avoid confrontation.. they are happy to rely on the Gov or Army to protect them and cry if they dont get that help. Growing a backbone and taking up arms for self defence and self respect is the only way they can survive and ensure their existence. If that is the case then they should forgot Kashmir, only relying on army won't be enough, tough for army to protect them in a hellhole.
Lone Wolf Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 49 minutes ago, speedheat said: Again if they gonna resettle kp, make sure they are trained by army units and are equipped with modern weapons so that they can withstand any sort of deliberate attack. A private militia with indian army, let this be double whammy for jehdi dogs. I am not sure if you guys know but What happened to KP's was going to be repeated in Kishtwar & Doda regions of J&K there were frequent attacks on Hindus & militancy was at an all time high in late 90's. Hindus were in gigantic minority & terrorists were high on confidence. Then General GD Bakshi was assigned over there & he laid the foundation of VDC's (Village defence Committee) in which local hindu youths were trained & provided weapons & stuff & Bakshi sir made sure that Govt. did not back off. He has written about that in his book too I guess. A real patriot in my view. VDC's wiped out terrorists in few operations that included destroying local support as well. Result of that operation is Hindus live quite peacefully over there despite being in huge Muslim majority area. VDC's still exist vaguely.
Khota Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Gollum said: Won't say solely, partly yes. They could have been more proactive, helped the migrants settle into their new lives, better compensation, brought terrorists like Yasin Malik and Farooq Ahmed Dar to justice. They failed at many of these things, only shining light was Governer Jagmohan Malhotra (passed away last month, Om Shanti) without whom it would have been closer to Armenian genocide than the exodus cum targeted killings that actually took place. KPs/Sikhs/Buddhists who escaped with their lives must realize they had a guardian angel in Jagmohanji when Indian establishment was lethargic in response. Coming to why I disagree with you, it is very difficult for people to stay in a place where they are outnumbered by the majority 20:1 and majority is full of bloodlust. Read Rahul Pandita's Our Moon Has Blood Clots. It wasn't just terrorists and Pakistan that were behind the killings and exodus. It was the common Kashmiri who happily blew the cover of his/her neighbors, who occupied the houses of the victims post-exodus, who led frenzied rallies against minorities, who bullied minority children out of school, who marked minority run business establishments at night for the jihadis to target, who helped the jihadis hide in the basements of his/her house, who garlanded the jihadis after killings of KP/Sikh neighbors and colleagues. No matter what Indian govt/army had done differently (hypothetically), it is impossible to live in such a hostile environment, like Jews in 1940 Poland or Yazidis in Iraq till a couple of years back. Sooner or later they would have all been tortured/killed or maybe something even worse could have happened, every day of survival would have been a miracle, no normal human being can flirt with such high level of risk on a daily basis. Fault lies squarely with the average Kashmiri Muslim who is radicalized beyond point of recovery. So much hate most of them carry in their hearts, hardly 0.5% of valley's population is non-Muslim today, still they celebrate when some minority is gunned down by a random LeT kutta from Sialkot. They mock the survivors even today not just on SM but even academic spaces. When a Kashmiri soldier or dedicated police officer/school teacher/public health worker dies only family attends the funeral since anybody associated with govt/state is automatically an Indian agent, hence a traitor. Then when an Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist with blood of innocents on his hands dies this is the response From hailing Pak terrorists to waving ISIS flags in downtown Srinagar, you'd think these savages can't do worse. 3 years back during a period of unrest following some terrorist's death they burnt down over 30 schools, mostly the ones which girls attended. No protest, rally, dharna by common Kashmiris, it was as if this evil act found wide acceptance in their society. Most if not all problems in Kashmir are self-created. If they prefer to live like barbarians and normalize terrorism, create sharia state, they have nobody else to blame but themselves. My heart goes out to all the KPs, Sikhs, Buddhists driven out of the valley including your family members. But my honest impression is that it is going to be impossible to go back, at least these folks got out alive, maybe better in a way that they now live in civilized, peaceful societies instead of living in their original homes with swords hanging over their necks all the time. True for Punjabis/Sindhis who fled Pakistan in 1947, true for Bengalis who fled East Pakistan in 1971, true in this case albeit it was internal migration. These refugees lost everything but because of emphasis on education and their hard work they have somewhat recovered and made up for lost ground. I agree with most of what you write. I also understand it is difficult for most of them to go back. Kashmiri Pandits were educated and they were able to settle. Lot of sikhs are not highly educated and they are still struggling. Moment rapes were going on they should have attacked Pakistan. Pakistan was the root cause and they should have paid the price. With Modi sarkar and strict vigilance at the border Pakistan has relented and begged UAE to intervene. At that time they never felt threatened and kept on doing what they did. That mass exodus was fault of GOI.
Khota Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 Exodus was a poor choice of words. It was ethnic cleansing of minorities in Kashmir.
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