Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated CoViD data - this graph, I think, needs its own thread.

[EnterTheVoid]

22 hours ago, New guy said:

I just have a question for vaccine deniers. 

 

Most of them believe thst covid is caused by an experimental China virus

 

The vaccine is either a dead protein or a dead virus

 

The same people say they are ok not being vaccinated and letting virus take its toll

 

I dont understand this logic, you are ok letting an active china virus in your body and trying it in your body but not a dead virus/protein which has undergone vigorous scientific testing in the first world? Why? What is the logic here 

 

Their entire shtick is "he's lying, she's lying, he's owned by this, they're owned by that". 

 

Have nothing of value to add to any discussion. 

 

They are attention seeking pests for a reason.

[Real McCoy]

bungbung at it again. what's so wrong in saying this company is owned by a known elite globalist. many people (if they are intelligent that is) can make the natural connection that the news owned by someone is there to promote their agenda. Trust me their agenda is not good for you. By you I mean anyone who is not bungbung and his shill buddies he upvotes

[BacktoCricaddict]

More data:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

 

 

 

We found that the absolute difference in vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with one dose of vaccine with the delta variant as compared with the alpha variant was approximately 12 to 19 percentage points. However, the differences in vaccine effectiveness after two doses were small. This was the case for both the BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccines. In the test-negative case–control analysis, the estimated vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with the delta variant was approximately 36% with a single dose of the BNT162b2 vaccine and approximately 30% with a single dose of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine; the effectiveness was approximately 88% with two doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine and approximately 67% with two doses of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine.

[EnterTheVoid]

40 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

More data:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

 

 

 

We found that the absolute difference in vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with one dose of vaccine with the delta variant as compared with the alpha variant was approximately 12 to 19 percentage points. However, the differences in vaccine effectiveness after two doses were small. This was the case for both the BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccines. In the test-negative case–control analysis, the estimated vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with the delta variant was approximately 36% with a single dose of the BNT162b2 vaccine and approximately 30% with a single dose of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine; the effectiveness was approximately 88% with two doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine and approximately 67% with two doses of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine.

 

Data doesn't lie.

[BacktoCricaddict]

46 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said:

 

Data doesn't lie.

The thing is that, often, we see headlines like "20,000 vaccinated people tested positive in Patthanamthitta."  

 

The real question of course is "how many fully vaccinated people tested positive?" 

 

And almost always, the numbers are incredibly low.  Like 258 in Patthanamthitta :-).  If people get exposed after a single dose or within 2 weeks after the 2nd dose, it does not go in the "vaccinated" bucket and does not count as a breakthrough.    

 

I really wish media/twitterers would provide proper context to their headlines like:  "258 out of 363000 fully vaccinated people tested positive in Patthanamthitta."  

 

How hard is that, really?

Edited August 12, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict

[EnterTheVoid]

10 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

The thing is that, often, we see headlines like "20,000 vaccinated people tested positive in Patthanamthitta."  

 

The real question of course is "how many fully vaccinated people tested positive?" 

 

And almost always, the numbers are incredibly low.  Like 258 in Patthanamthitta :-).  If people get exposed after a single dose or within 2 weeks after the 2nd dose, it does not go in the "vaccinated" bucket and does not count as a breakthrough.    

 

I really wish media/twitterers would provide proper context to their headlines like:  "258 out of 363000 fully vaccinated people tested positive in Patthanamthitta."  

 

How hard is that, really?

 

Agree completely.

 

The absence of information is just as important as the presence of information. 

 

I was reading some journals the other day. You're more likely to die of a car crash than you are to die from the COVID vaccine. 

 

Oh noes, let's start banning cars! Some global elitists are trying to kill us through cars

Edited August 12, 2021 by EnterTheVoid

[EnterTheVoid]

https://god.dailydot.com/i-am-legend-writer-covid/

 

These anti vax Covidiots now think the vaccine will turn you into a zombie.

 

Can't make this stuff up

[EnterTheVoid]

The city I am living in has gone into a 7 day snap lockdown. 

 

Guess who is to blame? Unvaccinated pests from interstate. Came and spread the virus here.

 

Don't want to be an anti vaxxer right now. Danger you might get beaten up black and blue.

 

[Real McCoy]

This is for those who quote NEJM as source . Also see that 3 of the 5 "scientists" are Indians. Mehra, Desai, and Patel throwing a black mark on our community just like some gits here. Mehra also works for Harvard, a known den of globalists.

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/06/06/politicized-science-lancet-nejm-retract/

 

The NEJM retraction was signed by all five authors, including Desai. It read:

TO THE EDITOR:

BECAUSE ALL THE AUTHORS WERE NOT GRANTED ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA AND THE RAW DATA COULD NOT BE MADE AVAILABLE TO A THIRD-PARTY AUDITOR, WE ARE UNABLE TO VALIDATE THE PRIMARY DATA SOURCES UNDERLYING OUR ARTICLE, “CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, DRUG THERAPY, AND MORTALITY IN COVID-19.”1 WE THEREFORE REQUEST THAT THE ARTICLE BE RETRACTED. WE APOLOGIZE TO THE EDITORS AND TO READERS OF THE JOURNAL FOR THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THIS HAS CAUSED.

Mandeep R. Mehra, M.D.
Brigham and Women’s Hospital Heart and Vascular Center, Boston, MA
mmehra@bwh.harvard.edu

Sapan S. Desai, M.D., Ph.D.
Surgisphere, Chicago, IL

SreyRam Kuy, M.D., M.H.S.
Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX

Timothy D. Henry, M.D.
Christ Hospital, Cincinnati, OH

Amit N. Patel, M.D.
University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT

[EnterTheVoid]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/son-of-man-who-infected-byron-bay-charged-for-breaching-health-orders-police/news-story/9b59aa3d99ca91a2e9dccc7037022af5

 

One idiot is all it takes to plunge an entire area into lockdown.

 

Infected man who thinks COVID is a hoax (read: unvaccinated pest) breaches all public health orders and brings the virus into an area that didn't have the virus before.

 

The law cracked down hard on mofos like him and his son. They are now facing jail

Edited August 13, 2021 by EnterTheVoid

[Real McCoy]

Australia is a totalitarian state masquerading as a democratic one. Most Aussies don't like their gobarmint

 

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500165-australia-covid-lockdown-melbourne-victoria/

[EnterTheVoid]

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Edited August 13, 2021 by EnterTheVoid

[BacktoCricaddict]

I refrained from posting vaccine-related data for a while because of the confounding related to mixing of pre-delta and in-delta analyses.  But, now we are well into the in-delta era and the the picture is quite a bit clearer. 

 

Bottom line conclusion for the US:  

If the nation country was vaccinated at the same rate as Mass, the current Delta wave would be a small fraction of its current size. 

 

 

 

 

As of Sept 2:

 

 

 

 

 

[cowboysfan]

6 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

I refrained from posting vaccine-related data for a while because of the confounding related to mixing of pre-delta and in-delta analyses.  But, now we are well into the in-delta era and the the picture is quite a bit clearer. 

 

Bottom line conclusion for the US:  

If the nation country was vaccinated at the same rate as Mass, the current Delta wave would be a small fraction of its current size. 

 

 

 

 

As of Sept 2:

 

 

 

 

 

that will never happen,almost 30 percent of the idiots here will never get the vaccine. 

[BacktoCricaddict]

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Edited September 8, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict

[BacktoCricaddict]

Why is there no more polio? 

One of the most debilitating and sad infectious diseases, polio paralyzed and killed millions of people all over the world for 100s of years.  So, what killed it?  Even the most vehement vaccine sceptics will admit (I hope) that it was the vaccine (and not grandma's mix of bleach and apple-cider-vinegar). 

 

But was the polio vaccine a perfect vaccine with no side-effects at all?  With zero breakthrough cases?  Did the public wait for every possible side-effect to be determined before taking it?  Or did they weigh the benefits and risks and see clearly that yes, there were risks, but they were far far outweighed by the benefits and acquiesce?  Digging into the history shows that breakthrough cases were unfortunately more common than with modern vaccines.  But your chances of getting and transmitting polio were much much lower if you were vaccinated.  People saw that; by having large numbers of people take the admittedly imperfect vaccine (often multiple doses even), polio was eradicated.   

 

Today's vaccines are more robust, more efficacious, safer and better studied.  If you know someone who is not vaccinated for Covid, please share this with them and encourage them to protect themselves, their loved ones and others.  This is the most effective, albeit not perfect way, to quash transmission.  

 

Edited September 28, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict

[Real McCoy]

7 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Today's vaccines are more robust, more efficacious, safer and better studied.  If you know someone who is not vaccinated for Covid, please share this with them and encourage them to protect themselves, their loved ones and others.  This is the most effective, albeit not perfect way, to quash transmission.  

Oh really. It takes minimum 10 years for vaccines to be tested according to this

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation

 

 

[EnterTheVoid]

Everyone is an anti vaxx until they got COVID. 

 

Than, they change their tune.

[EnterTheVoid]

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/antivax-cartoonist-treats-rough-case-of-covid19-with-ivermectin-zinc-and-beetroot-juice/news-story/39f98725c2f90e01151ff81335ab1040

 

Despite he and his wife being a fortnight into the illness with their conditions barely improving, the couple remain adamant they won’t accept the vaccine or hospital treatment.

 

Instead, Mr Garrison said they have been taking “Ivermectin and various vitamins including a lot of Zinc” as well as beetroot juice.

 

Next level retard

[Real McCoy]

While tv promotes news of anti vaccers getting virus, they are not showing what the cops do in the streets. Watch

 

Melbourne, Australia today. Arrested without any warning or explanation of why he’s being arrested.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZeXQGdF5Wjwn/