bharathh Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Khota said: And in your mind with will Indian Navy be able to project its power and defend against China? In the Indian Ocean - quite comfortably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 6 hours ago, bharathh said: In the Indian Ocean - quite comfortably Is there a simulation to back your bravado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Khota said: Is there a simulation to back your bravado? Because there is one to back yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, bharathh said: Because there is one to back yours? I thought I asked the question first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Just now, Khota said: I thought I asked the question first. No no. You stated that China would win with India having no chance in the sea. So that must be based on some simulation since you always speak facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, bharathh said: No no. You stated that China would win with India having no chance in the sea. So that must be based on some simulation since you always speak facts. Did I not ask you how you came to such a profound conclusion first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, Khota said: Did I not ask you how you came to such a profound conclusion first? My post above explained it. You are welcome to poke holes in what I said. I am no defence expert - but I stand by what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, bharathh said: My post above explained it. You are welcome to poke holes in what I said. I am no defence expert - but I stand by what I said. Interestingly enough - there are jobless people on the interwebs to do this kind of stuff... First war is India - China. I think you;ll find the part about the Navy interesting. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 12 hours ago, bharathh said: Interestingly enough - there are jobless people on the interwebs to do this kind of stuff... First war is India - China. I think you;ll find the part about the Navy interesting. - So you want me to view something by a jobless person and assume it is a learning tool. I don't think so. bharathh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Khota said: So you want me to view something by a jobless person and assume it is a learning tool. I don't think so. You asked for a "simulation". Now show me yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, bharathh said: You asked for a "simulation". Now show me yours. You have not shown me anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Here on a serious note: India vs China: A comparison of the Indian and Chinese (PLA) Navies (naval-technology.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Khota said: Here on a serious note: India vs China: A comparison of the Indian and Chinese (PLA) Navies (naval-technology.com) 2 hours ago, Khota said: You have not shown me anything yet. You are saying you don't want to see what I put and then you are saying you are not showing me anything. Where is your simulation? That article you posted says they have more ships and subs which is known - but what is the simulation that they can beat India near us? We are not planning to invade China - so their numerical superiority means nothing near our waters as they are primarily based in the Pacific and the South China Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) On 9/8/2022 at 12:52 PM, Khota said: I thought I asked the question first. See, Forget India, China Can not even win against Taiwan. If it could have it would have attacked. Fact is, Even Ukranians can take on mighty Force of Russians in their backyard so you can safely assume that India can even defend against mighty US in its own backyard. Bottom line is amphibious assault isnt possible by China to Taiwan. How ever, Can China do a amphibious assult over Andaman Nicobar Islands and win? Thats the question to which we want to look a answer. IMO: Few Years back, Definitely Yes, Now allmost next to impossible, In few years, After the current project of modernistation on Andmana Nicobar Port, We will sink them all Chinese Boats and shoot down all their planes in Andaman itself. ie Successfull blockade of Malacca Straits will be possible. Edited September 9, 2022 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 hours ago, bharathh said: You are saying you don't want to see what I put and then you are saying you are not showing me anything. Where is your simulation? That article you posted says they have more ships and subs which is known - but what is the simulation that they can beat India near us? We are not planning to invade China - so their numerical superiority means nothing near our waters as they are primarily based in the Pacific and the South China Sea. What I have p[roved is that China's navy has an advantage. INS Vikrant is a step in the right direction but not a game changer. Unlike you who is asserting based on some unemployed person's simulation that India has advantage over China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, mishra said: See, Forget India, China Can not even win against Taiwan. If it could have it would have attacked. Fact is, Even Ukranians can take on mighty Force of Russians in their backyard so you can safely assume that India can even defend against mighty US in its own backyard. Bottom line is amphibious assault isnt possible by China to Taiwan. How ever, Can China do a amphibious assult over Andaman Nicobar Islands and win? Thats the question to which we want to look a answer. IMO: Few Years back, Definitely Yes, Now allmost next to impossible, In few years, After the current project of modernistation on Andmana Nicobar Port, We will sink them all Chinese Boats and shoot down all their planes in Andaman itself. ie Successfull blockade of Malacca Straits will be possible. China cannot have amphibious assault over Andaman and Nicobar and win. They can win both land and sea battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Khota said: China cannot have amphibious assault over Andaman and Nicobar and win. They can win both land and sea battles. From where will they launch an amphibious assault? You do know that Andaman and Nicobar is more than 3k km from the nearest landmass - plus India has naval bases and army bases with a lots of soldiers based there. Edited September 9, 2022 by bharathh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Khota said: China cannot have amphibious assault over Andaman and Nicobar and win. They can win both land and sea battles. Refer the map once more. Idea of sea battle is in Malaca straight only Edited September 9, 2022 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, Khota said: What I have p[roved is that China's navy has an advantage. INS Vikrant is a step in the right direction but not a game changer. Unlike you who is asserting based on some unemployed person's simulation that India has advantage over China. That unemployed person's point makes more sense than saying you have more naval vessels than me so you win - which is your argument. You asked for a simulation. Unemployed person or not - it was given .. now you show me your simulation. Else please shut it. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, bharathh said: That unemployed person's point makes more sense than saying you have more naval vessels than me so you win - which is your argument. You asked for a simulation. Unemployed person or not - it was given .. now you show me your simulation. Else please shut it. Did you not read what I linked to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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