Clutch performance watch

[coffee_rules]

3 hours ago, zen said:

SDP

 

40 runs (w/ Ind 31/4)  + 3 wkts (or Pak coukd have got a bigger total)  v Pak 

63 off 33 v Eng in SF 

 

Ind’s MVP  

40 runs from 37 balls and didn’t finish. He got out in the 20th over and put pressure on Kohli/DK to finish. If he had gotten out earlier, Kohli, DK and Ashwin would have finished earlier. If not for Kohli brilliance, we wouldn’t have made it to KOs. He failed in all other matches except the SFs in batting. Average 

[zen]

50 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

40 runs from 37 balls and didn’t finish. He got out in the 20th over and put pressure on Kohli/DK to finish. If he had gotten out earlier, Kohli, DK and Ashwin would have finished earlier. If not for Kohli brilliance, we wouldn’t have made it to KOs. He failed in all other matches except the SFs in batting. Average 

 

Nope. The game was lost at 31/4, where he helped to stage a 100 runs p'ship. He was the one who started the assault. With 3 wkts, he also put a brake on Pak's scoring, where the score could have been 180-190. So that also can be added to his score to understand his impact. 40 + 20 to 25 runs saved = 60-65 off 37 balls ... Kohli's was more like a fluke knock (and he made Ind pay when it counted the most in SFs so that negates any positives from that knock). 

 

I am not rating performances blindly based based on results of the game but how a player stood up in the given moment. Even if Ind had lost, which it probably deserved too, it would still be a great clutch AR performances.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

Sundar is building his reputation well. Few clutch performances in his intl. Career

[Ultimate_Game]

Sundar, Pandya, Bumrah, Arshdeep have been clutch.

 

I'm liking what I've seen so far of Jaiswal and Rinku.

 

Need to give more chances to Abhishek and Parag.

 

Samson and KL Rahul are cut from the same cloth and are anti-clutch. Siraj is another one who wilts under pressure and starts acting like a headless chicken.

[vvvslaxman]

7 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Sundar, Pandya, Bumrah, Arshdeep have been clutch.

 

I'm liking what I've seen so far of Jaiswal and Rinku.

 

Need to give more chances to Abhishek and Parag.

 

Samson and KL Rahul are cut from the same cloth and are anti-clutch. Siraj is another one who wilts under pressure and starts acting like a headless chicken.

 

Sai Sudarshan. IPL final. Now TNPL qualifier. Super clutch

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Sai Sudarshan. IPL final. Now TNPL qualifier. Super clutch

 

I like Sai Sudarshan and also Sai Kishore. But gotta see them perform for India

[prudent_kreeda]

8 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

I like Sai Sudarshan and also Sai Kishore. But gotta see them perform for India

 

I am more confident of Sai Sudarshan if  we  look at his growth. 

1. With very little experience in T20 from a batter with not much power hitting ability he is able to hit sixes regularly & score consistently. - IPL final , last TNPL knock show us the improvement. 

2. Went to English county and performed better than any other indian who played there last season. Shows better technique.

3. Went to SA and looked best among the younger lot .

Has good defence, good back foot play , timing , places the ball well and looks like now playing the cut shot with power. The patent shot the on drive from the stumps which races away to boundary is so good to watch for the timing and placement .

Should be in ODI at #3 and tests soon.

Looked bit unsettled by Burger when he was attacked with bodyline short balls , but can overcome that .

Should be among the top 3 young batsmen in India if he keeps growing. 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Sai Sudarshan. IPL final. Now TNPL qualifier. Super clutch

Im still not convinced about him in T20 cricket.  There's just too much competition there.

 

However, I really wanted to see him in SL ODI's. 

[prudent_kreeda]

17 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Im still not convinced about him in T20 cricket.  There's just too much competition there.

 

However, I really wanted to see him in SL ODI's. 

 

For a youngster , one should judge what capability he has ? Even to get a ODI cap ideally one has to possess the capacity hit sixes when required , get boundaries by placement, play attacking shots both against pace and spin. 

What the knocks mentioned above show that he is developing his game to have different gears, which can play in ODI game when required.

Soon the teams will target 350 + in ODI , so having the ability to change gears will become a necessity ,

BTW, Never advocated his inclusion  in T20.  With his technique he is a fine #3 prospect in ODI as he has both good defence as well as now developing the attacking game . For ODI , most of the top batters need to be better than just Boom or Bust  which may be OK in T20. The ODI attack of top teams will be mostly test bowlers so need to have a decent defence and the ability to get boundaries regularly.    

Edited August 1, 2024 by prudent_kreeda

[Stan AF]

17 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Samson and KL Rahul are cut from the same cloth and are anti-clutch. Siraj is another one who wilts under pressure and starts acting like a headless chicken.

 

Samson is walking on a thin ice.

 

Kela dastard should never be anywhere near a white ball team after his 66(107) in a WC final.

 

Siraj should have been dropped long ago.

[Nikhil_cric]

2 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 

For a youngster , one should judge what capability he has ? Even to get a ODI cap ideally one has to possess the capacity hit sixes when required , get boundaries by placement, play attacking shots both against pace and spin. 

What the knocks mentioned above show that he is developing his game to have different gears, which can play in ODI game when required.

Soon the teams will target 350 + in ODI , so having the ability to change gears will become a necessity ,

BTW, Never advocated his inclusion  in T20.  With his technique he is a fine #3 prospect in ODI as he has both good defence as well as now developing the attacking game . For ODI , most of the top batters need to be better than just Boom or Bust  which may be OK in T20. The ODI attack of top teams will be mostly test bowlers so need to have a decent defence and the ability to get boundaries regularly.    

Yes his defence is impressive and that's why I want him as #3. 

 

He has the game for it. 

[Ultimate_Game]

5 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 

I am more confident of Sai Sudarshan if  we  look at his growth. 

1. With very little experience in T20 from a batter with not much power hitting ability he is able to hit sixes regularly & score consistently. - IPL final , last TNPL knock show us the improvement. 

2. Went to English county and performed better than any other indian who played there last season. Shows better technique.

3. Went to SA and looked best among the younger lot .

Has good defence, good back foot play , timing , places the ball well and looks like now playing the cut shot with power. The patent shot the on drive from the stumps which races away to boundary is so good to watch for the timing and placement .

Should be in ODI at #3 and tests soon.

Looked bit unsettled by Burger when he was attacked with bodyline short balls , but can overcome that .

Should be among the top 3 young batsmen in India if he keeps growing. 

 

 

He's the perfect no. 3 for ODIs for us to take over from Kohli. Jaiswal and Gill as openers and Sai at 3 in ODIs. Won't play him in T20s though as there're more explosive options. And if we force Gill in T20s, you can't have others like Sai or Ruturaj in the T20 team.

[Ultimate_Game]

5 hours ago, Stan AF said:

 

Samson is walking on a thin ice.

 

Kela dastard should never be anywhere near a white ball team after his 66(107) in a WC final.

 

Siraj should have been dropped long ago.

 

This series should be the end of Samson. And don't know why we're still persisting with Siraj in white-ball cricket. Harshit, Nattu. Mohsin etc. are better options who deserve to get a shot. Every year Siraj is one of the least economical bowlers in IPL and still gets selected for shorter formats. Don't understand it at all. And it's not as if he's a gun fielder or can contribute with the bat 

[Need4Speed]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

This series should be the end of Samson. And don't know why we're still persisting with Siraj in white-ball cricket. Harshit, Nattu. Mohsin etc. are better options who deserve to get a shot. Every year Siraj is one of the least economical bowlers in IPL and still gets selected for shorter formats. Don't understand it at all. And it's not as if he's a gun fielder or can contribute with the bat 

Nattu and Mohsin injuries not helping them..esp Mohsin..after his whole arm was affected..his pace is still low..needs more time

[Ultimate_Game]

26 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

Nattu and Mohsin injuries not helping them..esp Mohsin..after his whole arm was affected..his pace is still low..needs more time

 

Agreed and am really hoping Mohsin recovers fully. At the moment even a half-armed Mohsin is better than Avesh and Siraj in shorter formats.

[Need4Speed]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Agreed and am really hoping Mohsin recovers fully. At the moment even a half-armed Mohsin is better than Avesh and Siraj in shorter formats.

he seems to have a good thinking brain

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

he seems to have a good thinking brain

 

And control over line and length. It's unfortunate he suffered such a serious injury which was beyond his control. Else he would've been ahead of Arshdeep in the team.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Agreed and am really hoping Mohsin recovers fully. At the moment even a half-armed Mohsin is better than Avesh and Siraj in shorter formats.

 

He has become fat. Is fast but doesn't swing the ball in. A slightly better version of Zaleel.

[Ultimate_Game]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

He has become fat. Is fast but doesn't swing the ball in. A slightly better version of Zaleel.

 

Let's see how he shows up in this IPL. If he re-creates the performance from his first IPL season or is close to it, would like to see him get a chance. He has a higher ceiling than likes of Avesh.

[vvvslaxman]

Another clutch knock by Jadeja and Ashwin.