Tillu Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) What happens if there is a change in Indian government. Will Pakistan mend relations with India and everything goes back to normal? Or are the current Baloch and KPK struggles have gone beyond that stage where containing them is not a possibility? Edited September 7 by Tillu
gattaca Posted September 7 Posted September 7 1 hour ago, bsriharsha said: Not exactly funding terrorists but giving those idiots relevancy by engaging with them. They get money from visits. Money going to Pakistan will always fund terrorism against India
gattaca Posted September 7 Posted September 7 19 minutes ago, Tillu said: What happens if there is a change in Indian government. Will Pakistan mend relations with India and everything goes back to normal? Or are the current Baloch and KPK struggles have gone beyond that stage where containing them is not a possibility? lol why would everything go back to normal. Pak army did so many brutalities. Baloch , KPk and POK will never be normal. They killed so many Balochs they make them disappear. They open fire on people protesting in POK. Do you really think everything will go back to normal ?
Tillu Posted September 7 Posted September 7 17 minutes ago, gattaca said: lol why would everything go back to normal. Pak army did so many brutalities. Baloch , KPk and POK will never be normal. They killed so many Balochs they make them disappear. They open fire on people protesting in POK. Do you really think everything will go back to normal ? Do you think they are doing all this alone? They must be receiving a lot of funds and weapons to stage these attacks.
ravishingravi Posted September 7 Posted September 7 1 hour ago, Tillu said: What happens if there is a change in Indian government. Will Pakistan mend relations with India and everything goes back to normal? Or are the current Baloch and KPK struggles have gone beyond that stage where containing them is not a possibility? You can take this down. By 2029, Pak won't exist in its current form.
Tillu Posted September 7 Posted September 7 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: You can take this down. By 2029, Pak won't exist in its current form. For that to happen, an internal uprising needs to happen in Quetta. B L A can't do it alone.
Lone Wolf Posted September 7 Author Posted September 7 5 hours ago, Tillu said: What happens if there is a change in Indian government. Will Pakistan mend relations with India and everything goes back to normal? Or are the current Baloch and KPK struggles have gone beyond that stage where containing them is not a possibility? Things will be mostly similar though... But you can expect rougher stance on China at US's behest initially to gain leverage over Pak. That's how usually things rolled in both NAMO 1.0 and UPA1.0... India maintains this balance and reverses this from time to time depending upon global geopolitics and who is in power in US admin
Lone Wolf Posted September 7 Author Posted September 7 48 minutes ago, Tillu said: For that to happen, an internal uprising needs to happen in Quetta. B L A can't do it alone. BLA + TTP has to take the fight to urban centres of Pakjab and Sindh. Right now they have made life hell for failed Marshal Munni Begum and co in the frontier areas of KPK and Balochistan
Tillu Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: BLA + TTP has to take the fight to urban centres of Pakjab and Sindh. Right now they have made life hell for failed Marshal Munni Begum and co in the frontier areas of KPK and Balochistan There was a time after 26/11 I used to read news of daily attacks everywhere without any respite. Now Pak Army has fortified their positions in all its urban centres. We need to look at the geography as well. Can they leave the mountains and stage these attacks on urban centres? If TTP and BLA could it would have already happened. Edited September 7 by Tillu Lone Wolf 1
gattaca Posted September 7 Posted September 7 7 hours ago, Tillu said: Do you think they are doing all this alone? They must be receiving a lot of funds and weapons to stage these attacks. TTP receives funds through drug trade.
gattaca Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tillu said: There was a time after 26/11 I used to read news of daily attacks everywhere without any respite. Now Pak Army has fortified their positions in all its urban centres. We need to look at the geography as well. Can they leave the mountains and stage these attacks on urban centres? If TTP and BLA could it would have already happened. The attacks were mostly on schools , police stations or mosques. Don’t think it changed much. Much of KPK and Baluchistan are no go areas for pak army. They changed tactics and are controlling the land and reducing the losses. They might slowly push to urban centers too more a matter of time. Edited September 7 by gattaca
bsriharsha Posted September 7 Posted September 7 1 hour ago, gattaca said: The attacks were mostly on schools , police stations or mosques. Don’t think it changed much. Much of KPK and Baluchistan are no go areas for pak army. They changed tactics and are controlling the land and reducing the losses. They might slowly push to urban centers too more a matter of time. attacking urban centers enmasse won't be feasible. The rural areas allow the rebels to hit the military and police targets and move away from there quickly. If they have to attack within the city, they'll have to do that with a pointed attack taking down specific army personnel (unknown gunmen style). Might be possible too , but that would require money from UAE and a brainwashed idiot deluded enough to take the supari ( not exactly a problem as well too )
Tillu Posted September 7 Posted September 7 1 hour ago, gattaca said: The attacks were mostly on schools , police stations or mosques. Don’t think it changed much. Much of KPK and Baluchistan are no go areas for pak army. They changed tactics and are controlling the land and reducing the losses. They might slowly push to urban centers too more a matter of time. They targeted only a single school and everyone rightly condemned it strongly. But nobody talks about what happened before this incident. The Pakistani coward army Air bombed an entire village in North Waziristan thinking they are TTP hideouts, where the casualties were mostly children and women. At that moment I thought there would be a retaliation of similar kind and they targeted that military skoool and not any other skoool. TTP and BLA act with more honour than this vermin Pakistani top military brass. Recently they similarly targeted a rehabilitation centre in Afghanistan where some of the casualties were children.
singhvivek141 Posted September 7 Posted September 7 15 hours ago, Tillu said: What happens if there is a change in Indian government. The new government will crave for improving relations with Pak 15 hours ago, Tillu said: Will Pakistan mend relations with India and everything goes back to normal? It will go normal for Pak, not for India. Expect more bomb blasts and loss of Indian Civilians..while the central govt continue to call in more and more Pakistanis under the pretext of "harmony". 15 hours ago, Tillu said: Or are the current Baloch and KPK struggles have gone beyond that stage where containing them is not a possibility? Never underestimate the capability of Pak Army on its own civilians. Right now, they have to maintain capability at the Indian border coz the present govt can retaliate if things escalate. The moment govt changes, Pak will move a small chunk of its army from the border areas to these regions and bomb the hell of them via Airforce & ground operations...I wont be surprised that the new govt may share the details of all the Indian assets to Pakistan. Tillu 1
singhvivek141 Posted September 7 Posted September 7 For Pakistan to actually break down...India has to become strong. More India will become economically and militarily stronger...more Radical Pak Jernails were lose their **** and in order to achieve parity will buy expensive weaponry out by selling out their own country. Once the lower cadre of army faces the brunt of inflation and rising prices...they'll ignite the fire from within. India also need to maintain its relation with Afghanistan and send them "medicines" time to time. A burning Durand Line will make Pak fauj go mad.
ravishingravi Posted September 8 Posted September 8 What a jaahil gawar country is this. The whole country is meme factory. I guess somewhere if this genetic pool is stemming from our land, we have to own up to low grade ancestors.
gattaca Posted September 8 Posted September 8 (edited) 9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: For Pakistan to actually break down...India has to become strong. More India will become economically and militarily stronger...more Radical Pak Jernails were lose their **** and in order to achieve parity will buy expensive weaponry out by selling out their own country. Once the lower cadre of army faces the brunt of inflation and rising prices...they'll ignite the fire from within. India also need to maintain its relation with Afghanistan and send them "medicines" time to time. A burning Durand Line will make Pak fauj go mad. You underestimate them. They control everything. They have fauji factory which sells products from diapers to everything for consumers. They can discount it for their own army folks. They thought of this. They know their country couldn’t sustain if army is not taken care of. So they use anti india sentiment to fool their own people but rake money through china and US own pizza franchises, even prime land is allocated to army generals for free. When they retire they buy some good properties in foreign countries. The people at max will storm and loot like they last time they did at an army generals house that’s about it in Punjab Pakistan. In other areas they shoot first and crush any rebellion. Edited September 8 by gattaca singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 42 minutes ago, gattaca said: You underestimate them. They control everything. They have fauji factory which sells products from diapers to everything for consumers. They can discount it for their own army folks. They thought of this. They know their country couldn’t sustain if army is not taken care of. So they use anti india sentiment to fool their own people but rake money through china and US own pizza franchises, even prime land is allocated to army generals for free. When they retire they buy some good properties in foreign countries. The people at max will storm and loot like they last time they did at an army generals house that’s about it in Punjab Pakistan. In other areas they shoot first and crush any rebellion. I agree, we cant even imagine the level their Army control the economics. But, to disintegrate them, we need to play the cost of attrition, to a breaking point where it actually collapses....everything has a limit, Pak army too, and I am betting that our our economy is larger than their tolerance.
ravishingravi Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: I agree, we cant even imagine the level their Army control the economics. But, to disintegrate them, we need to play the cost of attrition, to a breaking point where it actually collapses....everything has a limit, Pak army too, and I am betting that our our economy is larger than their tolerance. This. My feeling is that people don't realize that this whole thing is hanging by a thread. It's the last straw we are waiting for. Keep chipping at it. It ll implode.
ravishingravi Posted September 8 Posted September 8 (edited) In my opinion Pakistan is one global financial crash away from being decimated. And that's coming. Edited September 8 by ravishingravi
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