Yuvraj reminds me of Sobers - Hanif Mohammed

[King Tendulkar]

Hanif is also a world class commenator!

[SachDan]

Yuvraj, in full flow, is a complete treat. But, I'm unhappy that I have to add "in full flow" to justify that statement :(( BTW, who the dhenga is Hanif? OK, some Pak captain. Good on him.

He was the original little master...even Sunny Gavaskar always used to say that. As Lurker pointed out,may be a better bat than Miandad and Zaheer Abbas.

[The Outsider]

He was the original little master...even Sunny Gavaskar always used to say that. As Lurker pointed out,may be a better bat than Miandad and Zaheer Abbas.

But was he better than Inzi bhai the phaasht bowling tormentor par none?

[SachDan]

But was he better than Inzi bhai the phaasht bowling tormentor par none?

Tormenting on the dead pitches of sub continent has always been Inzy's strength! If I was a bowler and have to get a batsmen LBW, Inzi bhai would be the batsmen to pick...that to me tells something abt his technique.

[Brainfade]

I want whatever it is that Hanif is drinking. Yuvraj can be a great batsman on his day, and usually is a great fielder, but somehow has not developed into a great "cricketer."

[ucilite]

Tormenting on the dead pitches of sub continent has always been Inzy's strength! If I was a bowler and have to get a batsmen LBW, Inzi bhai would be the batsmen to pick...that to me tells something abt his technique.

not true..though he had this habit of shuffling during the first ten minutes i would say and had nothing to do with technique....in his entire career he got LBW only 72 times out of approx 500 games that he played (both ODI and TESTS)......i don't know abt other players, but that to me looks quite impressive

[punjabi_khota]

And that 40 odd category guy compares a just-about-30 category guy with a 57-odd category guy. What an irony !

He was talking about the 6 sixes in a T-20 match, anyways. And talking about his style of batting.

[Guest dada_rocks]

And that 40 odd category guy compares a just-about-30 category guy with a 57-odd category guy. What an irony !

he just compared flare style and comparison ends right there.. ..

[Guest dada_rocks]

Too much he said she said....

[MundaPakistani]

Too much he said she said....

contradicting posts. compare post #6 to post #15(both are your posts)

[The Outsider]

A lot of young cricket teams have had players who might not have had the best numbers around but then pure numbers can never be used to judge the value and ability of a player in a weak young side. Hanif Mohammed played a huge part in making a niche for Pakistan cricket in the world and despite everything said about the numbers, he averaged 44. That's pretty much what the likes of Vengsarkar, Viswanath, Azhar, and Laxman have averaged for India. Not to mention the fact that a certain Hazare, whose career overlapped with Hanif, is considered an Indian great with an average of 47. In a weak side it's difficult to rack up huge numbers - lack of batting support, the pressure of large opposition scores, the quality of opposition bowling being much better than you are accustomed to etc. make it very difficult to have the 50+ batting and 25- bowling averages even for truly class players. Hanif is without a shadow of doubt an all time great Pakistani batsman and would have a shot at being among the top 25-30 batsmen of all time.

[Chorazin Reto]

When Michael Clarke and Yuvraj Singh started playing i would have picked Yuvraj in my team every time over Clarke, nowadays it is the opposite, Clarke is a more well matured batsmen and bowler and i would have no hesitation picking Clarke over Yuvraj.

[Tapioca]

A lot of young cricket teams have had players who might not have had the best numbers around but then pure numbers can never be used to judge the value and ability of a player in a weak young side. Hanif Mohammed played a huge part in making a niche for Pakistan cricket in the world and despite everything said about the numbers, he averaged 44. That's pretty much what the likes of Vengsarkar, Viswanath, Azhar, and Laxman have averaged for India. Not to mention the fact that a certain Hazare, whose career overlapped with Hanif, is considered an Indian great with an average of 47.

Comparing the quality of batsmen, especially when are from different eras, using just statistics lies somewhere between irritating and non-sensical (MoYo is a better batsman than Tendulkar,btw). On the main topic,from the few clips available online, the styles of the two do have a resemblance. Both have a similar physique. Sobers used a huge backlift - a "360 degree batsman" because his follow-through ended where the backlift began. Of the modern batsmen, only Lara has a bigger backlift than Yuvraj. There is a clip of Sobers' 254 v Lillee in another thread - from it, Sobers' pull wide of mid-on looks similar to YS. Off drives look alike too. But Sobers was stronger than YS square on the off-side, much better against spinners and probably the better hooker.

[Gambit]

Whatever Hanif averaged, said, did/didn't do, IMO he probably scored the most valuable triple hundred in cricket history when he battled for 15+ hours to save a test for Pak against WI.

[Chaos]

yep yuvi is sober... not sobers the cricketer!

[MundaPakistani]

A lot of young cricket teams have had players who might not have had the best numbers around but then pure numbers can never be used to judge the value and ability of a player in a weak young side. Hanif Mohammed played a huge part in making a niche for Pakistan cricket in the world and despite everything said about the numbers, he averaged 44. That's pretty much what the likes of Vengsarkar, Viswanath, Azhar, and Laxman have averaged for India. Not to mention the fact that a certain Hazare, whose career overlapped with Hanif, is considered an Indian great with an average of 47. In a weak side it's difficult to rack up huge numbers - lack of batting support, the pressure of large opposition scores, the quality of opposition bowling being much better than you are accustomed to etc. make it very difficult to have the 50+ batting and 25- bowling averages even for truly class players. Hanif is without a shadow of doubt an all time great Pakistani batsman and would have a shot at being among the top 25-30 batsmen of all time.

Rubbish! Hanif sucks! He played against a bunch of amateurs who didn’t even want to get their clothes dirty because the tight laundry budget was too tight you know and his average is only 44 so stop this he says she says nonsense and just depend on stats because they always tell the truth. Oh but you can throw all of that out of the window when talking about Gupte as he was the greatest spinner ever because…..

[SachDan]

Rubbish! Hanif sucks! He played against a bunch of amateurs who didn’t even want to get their clothes dirty because the tight laundry budget was too tight you know and his average is only 44 so stop this he says she says nonsense and just depend on stats because they always tell the truth. Oh but you can throw all of that out of the window when talking about Gupte as he was the greatest spinner ever because…..

That was the case even in the 70's and 80's...So Bradman,Compton,Hobbs,Hammond,Hutton,Tyson,Sobers all were not among the greats? Hanif is undoubtedly among the best five Paki batsmen.

[The Outsider]

^ danram, MP's post has a sarcasm level of 10.

[SachDan]

^ danram' date=' MP's post has a sarcasm level of 10.[/quote'] Too much sarcasm here....finding it very difficult to adjust! missed his statements abt Gupte. btw...can happen especially if you are in mood.. no?