Cricketics Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 what a relief that no Indian bowler is involved in this crap seriously Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Do you have a link? Which channel reported this Cricketics? Man Asif will never learn Link to comment
Cricketics Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 okay folkz, it's not up there on cricinfo yet, but those who have NDTV, u can they are showing rite now that BCCI HAS INFORMED PCB ABOUT ASIF'S DOPE TEST REPORT Link to comment
Cricketics Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Do you have a link? Which channel reported this Cricketics? Man Asif will never learn UP on NDTV, not up on cricinfo yet as i refresh the page Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 NDTV very reliable. Asif really is a dope:hysterical: Link to comment
theguyinallblue Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 i just saw..there is no breaking news in this regard on NDTV India... NDTV 24*7 is not available right now on cable.. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 i just saw..there is no breaking news in this regard on NDTV India... NDTV 24*7 is not available right now on cable.. why would it be any breaking news? we should not use our Indian news channel headlines to broadcast this usual crap about dope test failure which Sadak par waalaz keep doin. anywayz, they keep showing ticker on ndtv 24*7 about this Link to comment
Gambit Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 What a surprise If he doesn't get banned for like this time, ICC should be disbanded. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Breaking News Now On Ndtv - Icc Says, We Won't Do Anything, It's Bcci Who Would Have To Take Action Against The Dopey As They Hosted The Tournament. We Will Just Make Sure That The Right Thing Is Being Done And Will Watch It Closely, But Action Would Be Taken By Bcci Link to comment
Dhondy Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 What a surprise If he doesn't get banned for like this time, ICC should be disbanded. Gambit, there are several problems with that. Firstly, he has to test positive on the B sample. One sample is not enough. Secondly, we don't know the identity of the "banned" substance. It could be a simple cold remedy such as ephedrine, which is not really a performance enhancing substance. Thirdly, Asif's lawers might point out that Asif was never really convicted of the first offence. Hence, this is the "first" offence, and therefore should be dealt with leniently. And finally, it just doesn't make sense. He knows he was under the scanner. Why would he do it? Link to comment
Dhondy Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Also read Cricketics post above. The tests were conducted under BCCI's auspices, not ICC's. The max BCCI can do is ban Asif from future IPLs, and ask PCB to take action. You know what the PCB will do, don't you? You described it in one of your posts yesterday. Link to comment
Fontaine Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 And finally, it just doesn't make sense. He knows he was under the scanner. Why would he do it? Money. A lot of banned substances aren't just performance enhancers but immune boosters, and recovery aiding agents. Asif's troublesome elbow has long been a nagging problem for him and there are plenty of banned substances that boost the healing, cut down recovery time and will allow Asif to bowl in the IPL for plenty of money. It makes even more sense considering that if you're Asif and have these problems with your elbow, you'll do anything to cash in with the IPL now. If sample B is confirmed positive as well, then it throws the validity of the doping tests of the PCB in the gutter where it belongs. If the PCB/ICC don't do anything about this, then I think the BCCI I should report this matter to the Indian police so they can open a case against him in case he comes into the country bringing in illegal substances. Make it a legal matter so cheaters like this fraud don't play in our homer pitches. Link to comment
zubinpepsi Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Ok.. Its up on Cricinfo now.. http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ipl/content/current/story/361033.html Dope scandal Asif tested positive during IPL Cricinfo staff July 14, 2008 Mohammad Asif has once again landed in trouble on charges of doping © AFP Mohammad Asif has been confirmed as the player who tested positive for a banned substance during the Indian Premier League, the IPL has announced. Asif, who was detained in Dubai for possession of contraband drugs last month, will now have the right to request that his 'B' sample [supplied at the same time as the one that tested positive] be sent for analysis, which he and his representative can attend along with an IPL representative. The chances that it was a player from Pakistan had increased after confirmation by a Pakistan board official that there had been contact on the issue with the BCCI. In a related development, it is also learnt that the announcement of Pakistan's 30-man list of probables for the Champions Trophy - due to be revealed today - has also been delayed by another day. The release of the names has already been delayed from last week, after disagreements between selectors and a board committee over some names in the list and confusion over Shoaib Akhtar's eligibility. Cricinfo has learnt that the announcement of the squad was delayed till the identity of the player who tested positive was made public, in order to "avoid further controversy," according to an official. The tests were carried out by IDTM, a Sweden-based independent agency, in accordance with World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) standards after the IPL adopted the ICC's anti-doping code. The samples were forwarded to a WADA-approved laboratory in Switzerland for testing. If the 'B' sample is also positive, the matter will be taken up by the IPL's drugs tribunal, comprising of Sunil Gavaskar, Dr Ravi Bapat (ex-Vice Chancellor of Maharashtra University of Health Sciences) and lawyer Shirish Gupte. The tribunal will study the issue and take a decision in accordance with the code. Asif, along with Shoaib Akhtar, had tested positive for banned steroid nandrolone in PCB's internal tests ahead of the Champions Trophy. He was banned for one year, which was overturned on appeal. Asif also cleared a dope test in August 2007 ahead of the World Twenty20 in South Africa. © Cricinfo Link to comment
sandtest Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 ZeeNews also has confirmed this Now, it's clear, PCB has become like a rogue ISI, only in this case consisting of cheats, drug abusers, hypocrites. ICC plays an Unkil remaining willfully ignorant for their own petty benefits. Asif if not banned for lifetime, will act as a taunt to all lofty ideals of great sportsmen in world. http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=455264&sid=ARC Link to comment
Dhondy Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Money. A lot of banned substances aren't just performance enhancers but immune boosters, and recovery aiding agents. Asif's troublesome elbow has long been a nagging problem for him and there are plenty of banned substances that boost the healing, cut down recovery time and will allow Asif to bowl in the IPL for plenty of money. That's correct, if you are referring to anabolic steroids. He used that to aid recovery from injury last time as well. We don't know the putative substance yet though. Link to comment
Dhondy Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 ZeeNews also has confirmed this Now, it's clear, PCB has become like a rogue ISI, only in this case consisting of cheats, drug abusers, hypocrites. ICC plays an Unkil remaining willfully ignorant for their own petty benefits. Asif if not banned for lifetime, will act as a taunt to all lofty ideals of great sportsmen in world. http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=455264&sid=ARC No way will he face a lifetime ban, Sandtest. Probably a year. Link to comment
Dhondy Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I just read this on Cricinfo: "It was also checked if Asif had applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE). It was found that Asif had not applied for a TUE. A note in writing has been sent to the player and his home board and to the franchise [Delhi Daredevils] on the findings." Beginning to look like that the implicated substance has medicinal usage, which probably rules out anabolic steroids, unless it's just a generic wording. I am beginning to think that this might be a cold remedy like ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. No big deal. Link to comment
THX_1138 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Gambit, there are several problems with that. Firstly, he has to test positive on the B sample. One sample is not enough. Secondly, we don't know the identity of the "banned" substance. It could be a simple cold remedy such as ephedrine, which is not really a performance enhancing substance. Thirdly, Asif's lawers might point out that Asif was never really convicted of the first offence. Hence, this is the "first" offence, and therefore should be dealt with leniently. And finally, it just doesn't make sense. He knows he was under the scanner. Why would he do it? it is a steroid based compound as they specifically mentioned a TUE... you wouldnt check into the status of a TUE if it were a recreational drug or a diuretic. its pretty serious stuff... some steroid compound. Link to comment
Dhondy Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 it is a steroid based compound as they specifically mentioned a TUE... you wouldnt check into the status of a TUE if it were a recreational drug or a diuretic. its pretty serious stuff... some steroid compound. Anabolic steroids are hardly used therapeutically these days, THX. They had a few indications in days gone by, aplastic anaemia, frail old men who needed building up, that sort of thing, some people still prescribe testosterone for male osteoporosis..but the rest are hardly used any more. As such, pre-declaration shouldn't apply. Link to comment
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