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Future Tours Programme - 2009 February 2009 England in West Indies (4 Tests & 5 ODIs) New Zealand in Australia (5 ODIs) India in Pakistan -- x Australia in South Africa (3 Tests & 5 ODIs) India in New Zealand (3 Tests & 5 ODIs)
Good break for Indian cricketers in the next couple of quarters. Good to see that but they should play more test matches now when they are quite a force in test cricket. Disappointing they are playing only two test matches against NZ. Perhaps NZ doesn't deserve it. That said IPL is just around the corner and that will add to the itinerary.
Ravi is right. We are playing just 2 tests and 5 ODIs vs NZ. Where did you get that list from, cowboysfan? And I don't agree that we should play a two test series with anyone apart from the bottom ranked team. Just 2 tests with England and then just 2 tests with NZ is too little IMO. And any idea why are we not hosting WI? Last we hosted them was in 2002. Then we went to WI in 2006 for a 4 test series. Why are we not hosting them? When are they supposed to come to India next for a test series?
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And any idea why are we not hosting WI? Last we hosted them was in 2002. Then we went to WI in 2006 for a 4 test series. Why are we not hosting them? When are they supposed to come to India next for a test series?
India tour WI - April 2011 WI tour India - Nov 2011 It will 9 years since WI toured India, Poor Planning !!!
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Ravi is right. We are playing just 2 tests and 5 ODIs vs NZ. Where did you get that list from, cowboysfan? And I don't agree that we should play a two test series with anyone apart from the bottom ranked team. Just 2 tests with England and then just 2 tests with NZ is too little IMO. And any idea why are we not hosting WI? Last we hosted them was in 2002. Then we went to WI in 2006 for a 4 test series. Why are we not hosting them? When are they supposed to come to India next for a test series?
looks like cricinfo is wrong.we are playing just 2 tests in nz.hamilton and wellington. http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com/matches/schedule/page_5
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This is getting confusing: In Feb 2010, SA will be in India playing 3 tests and 5 ODIs. So we don't need to go SA before they visit India again? They visited in 2008, March-April.
India will tour SA in December 2010.The only reason behind such atrocious planning would be that SA's tour to India in March last year was not a full fledged one.It contained just 2 tests!
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India will tour SA in December 2010.The only reason behind such atrocious planning would be that SA's tour to India in March last year was not a full fledged one.It contained just 2 tests!
What Sach?? We played a 3 test series last year: At Chennai : match drawn, Sehwag hit a triple, first such individual score in India in India. At Ahmedabad : India was humiliated by SA At Kanpur: India hit back to draw the series. Which test do you not remember?
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BCCI wants to play 6 ODIS(3 easch in india and sl)before their pak tour-this is just crazy.can we have a cap on number of odis played in a calender year?.why not have 2 odis and 2 tests instead?
u mean two test in srl?n odis in india?doesnt make sense at all
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This is a very good read, if you want to know why India's performance was not upto the mark in T20 WC and what Indian players should should do in this rare break of two months. Grinding halt : Where is the fitness trainer of Team India?

Many in the Indian team or should we say the Board of Control for Cricket in India seem to have a hard time believing that players’ fitness and success on the cricket field are actually co-related. Indeed, there can be no other reason why the richest cricket Board in the world has been unable to find a replacement for Gregory King. The past four months saw the Indian team make it’s way to New Zealand, South Africa, England and West Indies. Just thinking about the trip is exhausting but for those who actually had to deal with life on the pitch it was more than just physical. India’s bowling coach Venkatesh Prasad was with the team every step of the way and believes that it was a bit of a mixed run for the team but one of the things he did notice was that the lack of a trainer affected the team. “I don’t think we need to blame the IPL for our early exit in the World T20,” said Prasad. “Technically, our players are very good but I just got the feeling that physically they were not at their peak. I am not picking on any one particularly but it’s clear to me that India needs a trainer.” After almost three months on the road, no team would be. But the presence of a trainer who can push them to their limits is vital for any sportsman. The likes of Roger Federer and Andre Agassi have done so well in tennis without a coach but they have had a trainer by their side throughout their career. Well, even Bangladesh and Zimbabwe have physical trainers. And none of the IPL franchises had a problem getting one so why does the BCCI let the Indian team wander around in the stone age? Working out “If you look at the success India has had over the past decade, I think a lot of it can be attributed to their changed attitude towards working out in a gym,” said Prasad. “They were fitter and it reflected in their approach to the game.” Of late, the only time the National Cricket Academy comes in the news is when a S Sreesanth or Virender Sehwag makes his way there for rehabilitation after getting injured. But Prasad feels that India need to make better use of the facilities at the NCA. “Don’t use NCA for just rehabilitation, use it as a centre for excellence,” said Prasad. “When the cricketers are not playing any cricket, they need to be training at the NCA; pushing up their fitness limits and thus gaining new ground on the other players. “This two-month break is a golden chance for the team to not only regain it’s fitness levels but also deal with all their niggles,” he added. “Just having a 10-day camp before the start of the new series is of no help.” It’s pretty clear to anyone who has observed the Indian team for a while that this team needs a trainer. Mahendra Singh Dhoni has had a back injury that never quite seems to heal. Yuvraj Singh’s knee is an issue and Zaheer Khan seems suspectible to hamstring injuries. That’s just three players who are certain of their places in the team when they are fit. There are more injury worries too and having a trainer around would certainly make things easier for the coach as well. If Gary Kirsten’s not been asking for a trainer, then he should start doing exactly that very soon.
So why don't we have a fitness trainer when the past trainer benefitted our team so much? Cr16-01c.jpg
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I think it's an overkill for having trainers when the players can consult their won trainers and stick to it. In fact working out in the gym just doesn't mean you get stronger... you also get fatigue. There are many players that overtrained in the gym and in the process of getting stronger only hammered their body further. Cricket unlike other sports is a low intensity sport. You don't need 6 pack to excel in cricket, you need good flexibility and enough strength/stamina to get through a day's cricket. Shane Watson, Brett Lee, Freddi, Jacob Oram are all heavy on working out in the gym but we all know how much cricket they play. As much as the technology has contributed to the sport since 90s it also has caused many injuries due to overuse as well. There used to be a time when cricketers used to get a break during off season but there's no off season anymore. They are playing cricket through out the year and no fitness trainer can help cricketers that have to play all through the year no matter how much you train. There definitely needs to be good balance between training, resting and playing.

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I think it's an overkill for having trainers when the players can consult their won trainers and stick to it. In fact working out in the gym just doesn't mean you get stronger... you also get fatigue. There are many players that overtrained in the gym and in the process of getting stronger only hammered their body further. Cricket unlike other sports is a low intensity sport. You don't need 6 pack to excel in cricket' date=' you need good flexibility and enough strength/stamina to get through a day's cricket. Shane Watson, Brett Lee, Freddi, Jacob Oram are all heavy on working out in the gym but we all know how much cricket they play. As much as the technology has contributed to the sport since 90s it also has caused many injuries due to overuse as well. There used to be a time when cricketers used to get a break during off season but there's no off season anymore. They are playing cricket through out the year and no fitness trainer can help cricketers that have to play all through the year no matter how much you train. There definitely needs to be good balance between training, resting and playing.[/quote'] Well put, Ravi. What people don't understand is that gym training and packing up muscles might help you in one aspect but an overdose can be detrimental in a sport like cricket where very rarely will you use that power if at all and the limited advantage you will gain from it. I can understand ordinary fans, but I really don't think enough thought has been put into the ideal training regime for cricketers from professionals either. Different strokes for different sports. The stamina and the type of training required to be a good mountaineer cannot be more different than being a good boxer or sprinter for instance. Mountaineering relies on getting your body and muscles used to a constant strain over a long period of time with short bursts of intense activity, sprinting is the polar opposite. I'll just quote an experience of mine on this - I have done a bit of mountaineering and wanted to do Mount Shasta in California. A friend of mine - extremely fit and a regular runner decided to accompany me, with no mountaineering experience. I thought nothing of it at the time, but I realized I had made a huge mistake. His approach was that of a sprinter and at the start he was goading me to make a move on. Two hours into our climb, he was wasted and though we tried to carry on, even thinking of the option of making it a 3 day climb instead of the 2 day I had planned, it was impossible. We simply had to turn back. Rest is underestimated and the grinding schedules churned out by the ICC and BCCI, really show that the people governing these bodies are completely removed from what it must take to be an international sportsman and put so much of stress on your body.
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Ramji to be Team India trainer Ramji Srinivasan will be the Indian cricket team’s trainer for the forthcoming ODI tri-series in Sri Lanka. He has been asked to report in Bangalore on August 26 for the preparatory camp. More... Ramji to be Team India trainer Special Correspondent Ramji Srinivasan will be the Indian cricket team’s trainer for the forthcoming ODI tri-series in Sri Lanka. He has been asked to report in Bangalore on August 26 for the preparatory camp. “I’m elated,” said Ramji, who received his letter of appointment on Saturday. “The BCCI and the Indian cricketers have shown a lot of trust in me. The onus is now on me, and I’m confident I will deliver.” Ramji, who oversaw the fitness assessment of Indian cricketers at New Delhi and Mumbai earlier this month, said he would evolve a specialised regime for the team with a long-term view. “The cricketers were very enthusiastic during the tests, and the fitness levels were found to be satisfactory,” he said. “I’m looking forward to working with them.” The Indian team hasn’t had a trainer since Greg King asked the BCCI to relieve him last February. Paddy Upton, the mental conditioning coach, doubled up as trainer under coach Gary Kirsten. Ramji, widely considered among the best trainers in India, oversaw Sachin Tendulkar’s rehabilitation after shoulder surgery in 2006. His portfolio includes work with the MRF Pace Foundation, the National Cricket Academy, and the Mumbai Indians.

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New fitness trainer for Indian team Ramji Srinivasan, who helped Sachin Tendulkar recover from a major shoulder injury in 2006, has been appointed as the trainer of the Indian team for next month's tri-series in Sri Lanka. He had also supervised the training sessions of the national team at Mumbai and Delhi earlier this month, and will link up with the national squad again on August 26 during its preparatory camp in Bangalore. "I'm elated," Ramji told the Hindu. "The BCCI and the Indian cricketers have shown a lot of trust in me. The onus is now on me, and I'm confident I will deliver." The Indian team has been without a specialist fitness trainer since February 2008 when Greg King stepped down. Since then, Paddy Upton, the mental conditioning coach, has been doubled up as trainer. Ramji has worked with some of India's leading cricketers at the MRF Pace Foundation in Chennai. He also runs one of the major health clubs in the city.

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