Militants get stronger, states weaker

[Gambit]

Swaminathan Aiyar in a rather bleak article stated that even with better security, technology and vigilance such attacks cannot be prevented. He cited the case of Israel,who despite being counter terrorism experts, are unable to stop single minded suicide bombers who aim to kill and die. Even if we had deployed an army off the coast of Bombay after intel, within 3 months of inaction, people would have criticised the govt for harassing them(through comprehensive security checks), putting public money to waste and putting off tourists. The govt receives 1000s of warning everyday and it is simply not possible to follow up every lead. He basically concludes by saying that no matter what we do, preventing such attacks will be very difficult given our geographical location, as we close to the epicenter of Islamic terrorism, who will continue to treat us as some sort of test lab for their grander designs.

[The Outsider]

There is a lot of truth to the above, but still a lot can be foiled by good grass roots intelligence and monitoring. India, given it's political and social situation and geographic position will probably never be free of terror attacks but certainly a lot can be reduced. I mean, how do you explain a bomb sitting at VT station for one week after the blasts without being noticed!!

[Guest dada_rocks]

Swaminathan Aiyar in a rather bleak article stated that even with better security, technology and vigilance such attacks cannot be prevented. He cited the case of Israel,who despite being counter terrorism experts, are unable to stop single minded suicide bombers who aim to kill and die. Even if we had deployed an army off the coast of Bombay after intel, within 3 months of inaction, people would have criticised the govt for harassing them(through comprehensive security checks), putting public money to waste and putting off tourists. The govt receives 1000s of warning everyday and it is simply not possible to follow up every lead. He basically concludes by saying that no matter what we do, preventing such attacks will be very difficult given our geographical location, as we close to the epicenter of Islamic terrorism, who will continue to treat us as some sort of test lab for their grander designs.

Total prevention of terror is like complete network security which will never happen as long as we choose to live our normal life just lilke it wud never happen as long as your system is hooked to the net. It certainly can be minimized more importantly when a terro strikes one cud have proper response with appropriate post-terror machinery in place. B Raman has nice list of what needs to be done to achieve that minimization of terror and right response after terror. We have graduated from terro every year to every six months to every month. Either we are going downhill or are stagnant or terrrosits are either maintaing their efficiency or improving it. We need to keep pace with those SOBs

[Ram]

Its impossible to provide 100% security to all the residents, all the time. Most of us understand that difficulty. However, at the least, we have right to ask the govt. to put in place enough mechanism and security protocols to make as hard as possible for the terrorists to strike. But looking at the backdrop of the Mumbai attacks, we find that the US Intel had warned our govt. of an impending sea borne attack. Nothing was done. Even the Indian Intel agencies had warned the Coast guard and Mumbai police about some specific intercepts, nothing was done. The NSG had no dedicated plane to come to Mumbai. Now, thats not 'making as hard as possible for the terrorists to strike'. That is what is angering people.

[Chandan]

There is a lot of truth to the above' date=' but still a lot can be foiled by good grass roots intelligence and monitoring. India, given it's political and social situation and geographic position will probably never be free of terror attacks but certainly a lot can be reduced. [/quote'] I agree. But just tell me how can anyone enter the most important city with so much arm and ammunitions and stasrt firing everywhere at will, taking seige of any elite place without being stopped? I say that this only gives an impression that there is no security for anyone who is in India or visits India. If these can't be prevented 100% at least prevent 90%. Or even that is too much for this "nikammi' govt? Few people have suggested what security measures can be taken: 26 things to do to strengthen internal security B Raman December 01, 2008 This incorporates some of the points coming to my mind, but is by no means a totally comprehensive list. I have deliberately not touched upon the Pakistan dimension. I would like to wait for some more details before commenting on the action that needs to be taken. Point 1: Set up a national commission of professionals with no political agenda, in consultation with the Leader of the Opposition, to inquire into all the major terrorist strikes that have taken place in Indian territory outside Jammu & Kashmir since November 2007, and task it to submit its report within four months, with no extensions given. Its charter will be not the investigation of the criminal cases arising from these terrorist strikes, but the investigation of the deficiencies and sins of commission and omission in our counter-terrorism agencies at the Centre and in the states, which made these strikes possible. Point 2: Induct proved experts in terrorism and counter-terrorism from the Intelligence Bureau, the state police and the Army into the R&AW at senior levels. Presently, the R&AW does not have any such expertise at senior levels. Of the four officers at the top of the pyramid, two are generalists, one is an expert in Pakistan (political) and the other in China (political). Point 3: A similar induction from the state police and the Army would be necessary in the case of IB too. Since I have no personal knowledge of the officers at the top of its pyramid, I am not in a position to be specific. Point 4: Make the IB the nodal point for all liaison with foreign intelligence and security agencies in respect of terrorism, instead of the R&AW. Give the IB direct access to all foreign internal intelligence and security agencies, instead of having to go through the R&AW. Point 5: Have a common database on terrorism shared by the IB and the R&AW directly accessible by authorised officers of the two bodies through a secure password. Point 6: Make the multi-disciplinary centre of the IB function as it was meant to function when it was created -- as a centre for the continuous identification of gaps and deficiencies in the available intelligence and for removing them and for effective follow-up action. Point 7: Revive the covert action capability of the R&AW and strengthen it. Its charter should make it clear that it will operate only in foreign territory and not in Indian territory. Give it specific, time-bound tasks. All covert actions should be cleared and co-ordinated by the R&AW. Other agencies should not be allowed to indulge in covert actions. Point 8: The National Security Guards was created as a special intervention force to deal with terrorist situations such as hijacking and hostage-taking. Stop using it for VIP security purposes. Station one battalion each of the NSG in Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai and Bengaluru [images]. Ensure that its regional deployment does not affect its in-service training. Review the rapid response capability of the NSG in the light of the Mumbai experience and remove loopholes. In handling the Kandahar hijacking of 1999 and the Mumbai terrorist strikes, the delay in the response by the NSG would appear to have been due to a delay in getting an aircraft for moving the NSG personnel to Mumbai from Delhi [images]. Point 9: Give the police in Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai and Bengaluru a special intervention capability to supplement that of the NSG. Point 10: After the series of hijackings by the Khalistani terrorists in the early 1980s, Indira Gandhi [images] had approved a proposal for training Indians in dealing with hostage situations and hostage negotiation techniques by foreign intelligence agencies, which have acknowledged expertise in these fields. The training slots offered by the foreign agencies have been largely monopolised by the IB and R&AW. The utilisation of these training slots and the selection of officers for the training should be decided by the NSA -- with one-third of the slots going to central agencies, one-third to the NSG and one-third to the state police. It is important to build up a core of terrorism and counter-terrorism expertise in all metro towns. Point 11: The IB's multi-disciplinary centre should have a constantly updated database of all serving and retired officers at the Centre and in the states who had undergone overseas training, and also of all serving and retired officers and non-governmental figures who have expertise in terrorism and counter-terrorism so that their expertise could be tapped, when needed. Point 12: Strengthen the role of the police stations in counter-terrorism in all major cities. Make it clear to all station house officers that their record in preventing acts of terrorism, in contributing to the investigation and prosecution of terrorism-related cases and in consequence management after a terrorist strike will be an important factor in assessing their suitability for further promotion. Revive and strengthen the beat system, revive and intensify the local inquiries for suspicious activities in all railway stations, bus termini, airports, hotels, inns and other places and improve police-community relations. An important observation of the UK's security and intelligence committee of the prime minister, which enquired into the London [images] blasts of July 2005, was that no counter-terrorism strategy will succeed unless it is based on the co-operation of the community from which the terrorists have arisen. The UK now has what they call a community-based counter-terrorism strategy. The willingness of different communities to co-operate will largely depend on the relations of the police officers at different levels with the leaders and prominent members of the communities. Point 13: Adopt the British practice of having counter-terrorism security advisers in police stations. Post them in all urban police stations. Their job will be to constantly train the PS staff in the performance of their counter-terrorism duties, to improve relations with the communities and to closely interact with owners of public places such as hotels, restaurants, shopping malls etc and voluntarily advise them on the security precautions to be taken to prevent terrorist strikes on soft targets and to mitigate the consequences if strikes do take place despite the best efforts of the police to prevent them. Point 14: Stop using the National Security Council Secretariat as a dumping ground for retired officers, who are favoured by the government. The NSCS cannot be effective in its role of national security management if it is not looked upon with respect by the serving officers. The serving officers look upon the retired officers of the NSCS as living in the past and in a make-believe world of their own totally cut off from the ground realities of today in national security management. The NSCS should be manned only by serving officers of acknowledged capability for thinking and action. Point 15: Strengthen the role of the National Security Advisory Board as a government-sponsored think tank of non-governmental experts in security matters to assist the NSCA and the NSA. Give it specific terms of reference instead of letting it free lance as it often does. It should be discouraged from undertaking esoteric studies. Point 16: Set up a separate Joint Intelligence Committee to deal with internal security. Assessment of intelligence having a bearing on internal security requires different expertise and different analytical tools than assessment of intelligence having a bearing on external security. In 1983, Indira Gandhi, then prime minister, bifurcated the JIC and created a separate JIC for internal security. Rajiv Gandhi [images] reversed her decision. Her decision was wise and needs to be revived. Point 17: Set up a national counter-terrorism centre under the national security adviser to ensure joint operational action in all terrorism-related matters. It can be patterned after a similar institution set up in the US under director, national intelligence after 9/11. The national commission set up by the US Congress to enquire into the 9/11 terrorist strikes had expressed the view that better co-ordination among the various agencies will not be enough and that what was required was a joint action command similar to the joint chiefs of staff in the armed forces. Its tasks should be to monitor intelligence collection by various agencies, avoid duplication of efforts and resources, integrate the intelligence flowing from different agencies and foreign agencies, analyse and assess the integrated intelligence and monitor follow-up action by the police, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other concerned agencies. Every agency is equally and jointly involved and responsible for the entire counter-terrorism process starting from collection to action on the intelligence collected. If such a system had existed, post-Mumbai complaints such as those of the Intelligence Bureau and R&AW that the advisories issued by them on the possibility of a sea-borne attack by the Lashkar e Tayiba on Mumbai were not acted upon by the Mumbai police would not have arisen because the IB and the R&AW would have been as responsible for follow-up action as the Mumbai police. Point 18: The practice of the privileged direct access to the prime minister by the chiefs of the IB and R&AW, which came into force under Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, should be vigorously enforced. This privileged direct access is utilised by the intelligence chiefs to bring their concerns over national security and over inaction by the agencies responsible for follow-up on their reports to the personal notice of the prime minister and seek his intervention. If the intelligence chiefs had brought to the notice of the prime minister the alleged inaction of the Mumbai police on their reports, he might have intervened and issued the required political directive to the chief minister of Maharashtra. Point 19: Either create a separate ministry of internal security or strengthen the role of the existing department of internal security in the ministry of home affairs and make it responsible for dealing with internal security operationally under the over-all supervision of the home minister. Point 20: Either create a separate federal terrorism investigation agency or empower the Central Bureau of Investigation to investigate all cases involving terrorism of a pan-Indian dimension. It need not take up cases where terrorism is confined to a single state or a small region such as terrorism in Jammu & Kashmir or the Al Umma in Tamil Nadu. It should be able to take up the cases for investigation without the need for prior permission from the governments of the states affected. It should not have any responsibility for investigating crimes other than terrorism. If its charter is expanded to cover other crimes too, there will be political opposition. There is a lot of confusion about this concept of a federal terrorism investigation agency. Many critics ask when the IB is there, what is the need for another central agency. The IB is an intelligence collection agency and not an investigation agency. The IB has no locus standi in the Indian criminal laws. It collects intelligence and not evidence usable in a court of law. It cannot arrest and interrogate a suspect or search premises or perform other tasks of a similar nature, which can be performed only by police officers of the rank of station house officers. The IB officers are not recognised as equivalent to SHOs. Point 21: Set up a taskforce consisting of three senior and distinguished directors-general of police and ask it to come up with a list of recommendations for strengthening the powers of the police in respect of prevention, investigation and prosecution of terrorism-related offences and the capabilities of the police in counter-terrorism and implement its recommendations. This is the only way of getting round the present political deadlock over the revival of the Prevention of Terrorism [images] Act. Point 22: Expedite the erection of the border fence on the border with Bangladesh without worrying about opposition from Bangladesh. Point 23: Start a crash programme for the identification of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh and for deporting them. Ban the employment of immigrants from Bangladesh anywhere in Indian territory. Point 24: Strict immigration control is an important part of counter-terrorism The post -9/11 safety of the US is partly due to the tightening up of immigration procedures and their strict enforcement. Among the best practices adopted by the US and emulated by others are: photographing and finger-printing of all foreigners on arrival, closer questioning of Pakistanis and persons of Pakistani origin etc. We have not yet adopted any of these practices. Hotels and other places of residence should be banned from giving rooms to persons without a departure card and without a valid immigration stamp in their passports. They should be required to take xerox copies of the first page and the page containing the immigration stamp of the passports of all foreigners and also the departure card stapled to the passport and send them to their local police station every morning. All immigration relaxations introduced in the case of Pakistani and Bangladeshi nationals and persons of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin should be cancelled with immediate effect. The requirement of police reporting by them should be rigorously enforced. It should be made obligatory for all persons hosting Pakistanis and Bangladeshis to report to the local police about their guests. A vigorous drive should be undertaken for tracing all Pakistanis and Bangladeshis overstaying in India after the expiry of their visas and for expelling them. Point 25: The MEA's capability for terrorism-related diplomacy should be strengthened by creating a separate division for this purpose. It should continuously brief all foreign governments about the role of Pakistan and Bangladesh in supporting terrorism in Indian territory and press for action against them. Point 26: The Mumbai strikes have revealed serious gaps in our maritime security on our Western coast. This is partly the result of our over-focus on the Look East policy and the neglect of the Look West dimension. This was corrected earlier this year. Despite this, there are apparently major gaps and an alleged failure by the naval and Coast Guard authorities to act on the reports of IB and R&AW about likely sea �borne threats from the LeT. The identification and removal of the gaps need immediate attention. The Mumbai offshore oil installations and the nuclear and space establishments on the Western coast are also vulnerable to sea-borne terrorist strikes. (The writer is Additional Secretary (retired), Cabinet Secretariat, Government of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai. E-mail: seventyone2@gmail.com)

[Chandan]

BB, Don't go over board. Not all Islam followers are terrorists. There are a few exceptions which are there in every religion. I'm not interested in going into the same circle once again. If we leave ourselves unsecured and unguarded, any terrorist following whatever religion can attack us. We have to prevent this attack. How? And this is the only question which is important to me. So tell me what options do our govt have here which assures the public that they will be secure from now on, as well as which will please the outraged public that FINALLY govt is acting on it without hurting the nation? War on Pak is NOT an option!!

[punjabi_khota]

BB, Don't go over board. Not all Islam followers are terrorists. There are a few exceptions which are there in every religion. I'm not interested in going into the same circle once again. If we leave ourselves unsecured and unguarded, any terrorist following whatever religion can attack us. We have to prevent this attack. How? And this is the only question which is important to me. So tell me what options do our govt have here which assures the public that they will be secure from now on, as well as which will please the outraged public that FINALLY govt is acting on it without hurting the nation? War on Pak is NOT an option!!

[Chandan]

Sorry BB, But that will not not serve any purpose at the moment. If we are weak, if we are unguarded, if there is no security system and before that intelligence is there, ANYONE can attack us. Before finding who did it to us, we have to look at us and ask why are we so vulnerable that anyone can attack us, how could these guys attack us without being detected before that started the massacre. I think this question is more important!

[punjabi_khota]

Sorry BB, But that will not not serve any purpose at the moment. If we are weak, if we are unguarded, if there is no security system and before that intelligence is there, ANYONE can attack us. Before finding who did it to us, we have to look at us and ask why are we so vulnerable that anyone can attack us, how could these guys attack us without being detected before that started the massacre. I think this question is more important!

How about the fact that some of 'us' are attacking us ? Does that sound plausible to you ? Securing the borders doesn't mean anything in that case. I mean if we can have that guy Shakeel, an indian born/raised Muslim go and blow himself up in London, there are probably many more Shakeels in the sleeper cells in India ready to hurt us in the near future.

[Chandan]

How about the fact that some of 'us' are attacking us ? Does that sound plausible to you ? Securing the borders doesn't mean anything in that case. I mean if we can have that guy Shakeel' date=' an indian born/raised Muslim go and blow himself up in London, there are probably many more Shakeels in the sleeper cells in India ready to hurt us in the near future.[/quote'] So? I'm talking about internal security as well.

[punjabi_khota]

So? I'm talking about internal security as well.

But if you deal with it with your eyes and mind closed, and the theory of 'any terrorist of any religion can attack us' , you are not going be too successful. Almost all attacks/blasts in India are carried out by Islamic terrorists. Unless that fact is woven into scheme, we are not going to go anywhere. For starters. there has to be stricter monitoring of Islamic organizations, madarsas etc. But that is something the PC congress is utterly incapable of doing. I mean FOR ****S SAKE, those mother****ers had so much trouble ensuring SIMI was banned. Laloo and his gang were supporting SIMI. I mean thats absolutely ridiculous given the current state of the country. The bottomline is, the congress and its allies depend heavily on the Muslim vote bank, and hence are never going to do something which can irritate that community. And that is basically where the whole security scheme will fall flat.

[Chandan]

You dont get it ... what you are doing is like fighting a fire by stocking up on water instead of removing the inflamable material. The way you are going about it gives out the impression that you are ok with the absurdities of that religion and are resigned to the fate that it will keep throwing you these events - "Exceptions" - as you prefer to explain them away. Fix the source. Prevention is better than cure.

I'm not willing to blame the religion for this. I have many muslim friends since my school days. They never had a thinking like this. Some of these guys who are terrorists and are sponsored by terrorist organisation have a skewed ideology which Islam does not preach. So it is pointless to blame a religion. As pointless someone would blame me for having RSS ideology just because I am a Hindu. I think the war on religion is absolutely pointless. I'm more concerned for getting ourselves a tight security EVERYWHERE in the country.

[Chandan]

But if you deal with it with your eyes and mind closed' date=' and the theory of 'any terrorist of any religion can attack us' , you are not going be too successful. Almost all attacks/blasts in India are carried out by Islamic terrorists. Unless that fact is woven into scheme, we are not going to go anywhere. For starters. there has to be stricter monitoring of Islamic organizations, madarsas etc. [b']But that is something the PC congress is utterly incapable of doing. I mean FOR ****S SAKE, those mother****ers had so much trouble ensuring SIMI was banned. Laloo and his gang were supporting SIMI. I mean thats absolutely ridiculous given the current state of the country. The bottomline is, the congress and its allies depend heavily on the Muslim vote bank, and hence are never going to do something which can irritate that community. And that is basically where the whole security scheme will fall flat.

I agree. But which ever party is ruling I want security. If Congress can't insure that, they are not going to be the ruling party anyway and the same is true for whoever comes in power.

[varun]

Sorry BB, But that will not not serve any purpose at the moment. If we are weak, if we are unguarded, if there is no security system and before that intelligence is there, ANYONE can attack us. Before finding who did it to us, we have to look at us and ask why are we so vulnerable that anyone can attack us, how could these guys attack us without being detected before that started the massacre. I think this question is more important!

Spot on. Just doing fingerpointing is a sign of weakness. If there is a problem, then dont bark about it, solve it. Top Priority: Sort out our defenses Second Priority: Go on the offense against who did this Both of the above have to go on simultaneously, but I believe that strengthening our defense (atleast trying to approach the level of the israelis) is a top priority. If our defenses our strong and we keep foiling their attacks, these f***ers will think twice before even hatching a plan.

[varun]

You dont get it ... what you are doing is like fighting a fire by stocking up on water instead of removing the inflamable material. The way you are going about it gives out the impression that you are ok with the absurdities of that religion and are resigned to the fate that it will keep throwing you these events - "Exceptions" - as you prefer to explain them away. Fix the source. Prevention is better than cure.

Welcome back BB. How do you fix the source ?

[Guest dada_rocks]

First things woudl be not to ban books which brings truth to he fore .. for example this one... Hindu Supreme Court Lawyer Needs your Help to Lift the Ban on his Book on Islam Mr. M R Bhasin has written a number of books on Islam and Hinduism. In the early part of 2007 he published a book entitled "ISLAM - A Concept of Political World Invasion by Muslims". In March 2007 a group of 20 Muslims approached the Maharashtra government to ban the book. Immediately Maharashtra government banned the book denying the rights of a Hindu writer to express his view and document the atrocities of Muslim rule in India. On April 5, 2007 police raided his residence at Colaba and have confiscated about 1000 copies of the book which was published in English and Hindi. The raid was conducted by the Marine Drive Police Station and lasted for nearly four hours, from 11.00 am till 3.00 pm, when Mr. Bhasin was away attending some court cases. The police raid and the confiscation of the book are the gross violation of fundamental right as well as freedom of speech. The Maharashtra government's actions are nothing short of a totalitarian trampling of freedom of expression, nothing but the appeasement of Muslims for Vote bank politics, nothing but Congress government's anti-Hindu policies. Being as courageous as he is, Mr. Bhasin decided to file a PIL in the Mumbai High Court challenging the legality of the ban order and confiscation of the book. The case is being heard in the Mumbai High Court. As you may guessed many newspapers totally ignored the news item and did not publish the story. It is time that all the Hindus stand up, get united and rally behind Mr. Bhasin in his lonely fight against the well organized Muslim Community and the Maharashtra government. On be half of Global Hindu Heritage Foundation, I spoke with Mr. Bhasin. He was very grateful for the call and appreciated the efforts of many Hindus who are calling him to give moral help. I also spoke to Mr. Eshwar Khandelwal of Right to Read Foundation (a sort of civil liberties union in India) who is helping him in the case before the Mumbai High Court. HOW CAN WE HELP? Please send emails expressing your support to the case filed in the High Court demanding the Maharashtra government: 1) To lift the ban of Mr. Bhasin's book, 2) To return the confiscated books, 3) Demanding apology to Mr. Bhasin for trampling his freedom of speech Also you can request Mr. Bhasin to send as many copies as you would like to distribute to all the Hindus and friends of freedom of speech. Every Hindu should read this book on "ISLAM - A Concept of Political World Invasion by Muslims". It describe nearly ten centuries of the atrocities of Muslim rule in India and the passages that support the terror and violence. Even the judges in High court are surprised at the extent of cruelty the Muslims caused to Hindus. Further, encourage all your friends in Mumbai to assist Mr. Bhasin and show strength by their mere physical presence in the court. The case number in High Court is "Criminal Application Number 1421 of 2007." The matter is before the full Bench of Mumbai High Court. Please send your email to: lashkarehind06@yahoo.co.in as soon as possible. Your expression of outrage and demand for freedom of speech are crucial. You may reach Eshwar Khandelwal of Right to Read Foundation (9820963189) or Mr. R. V. Bhasin (011-91-22- 22045054/ 22845004) We all have the right to know what happened to our fore fathers during ten centuries of bloodiest, ruthless Muslim rule. We may be condemned to the similar atrocities if we do not learn from the history. All Hindu must wake up and defend Mr. Bhasin and the right to know the history of Muslim rule in India. Global Hindu Heritage Foundation was started about two years ago to preserve, protect and advance Hinduism. In order to preserve Hindu culture, every Hindu has a birth right to know the history. Let us all support Mr. Bhasin to defend the case successfully in High court to lift ban of the book so that it will be freely available to every body to read and be equipped with knowledge of the gruesome history of India during Muslim period. We will be able to preserve and protect Hinduism only if we are not denied our right to know the history. Dhanyavad Prakasarao Velagapudi, PhD 601-918-7111

[varun]

By first acknowledging it and denominating it as the root cause of all our troubles. This will cause a lot of heartache initially but if you are truly looking at a long term solution ( as in for our children and grand children ) then there is no other go but to classify it along the same lines as Nazism. Perhaps doing this at a UN level will be better.

Nazism was an ideology which was conceptualized and died all within the span of 2-3 decades. Islam has been present for 14 centuries, and such long-standing religions cannot be "eliminated". IMO, what can be done is to try to achieve an Islamic-rennaisance if you will, but that has to come from within their ranks.

[punjabi_khota]

Nazism was an ideology which was conceptualized and died all within the span of 2-3 decades. Islam has been present for 14 centuries.

And hence the higher toll.

[Chandan]

Nazism was an ideology which was conceptualized and died all within the span of 2-3 decades. Islam has been present for 14 centuries, and such long-standing religions cannot be "eliminated". IMO, what can be done is to try to achieve an Islamic-rennaisance if you will, but that has to come from within their ranks.

That is what I've been saying. India cannot do that alone, nor can even USA. Our first priority should be to secure ourselves.

[Guest dada_rocks]

Hitler missed the ultimate trick he needed to use religon wrapper for his ideology. This simple act insulates one's ideology from criticism and one has to accord respect to even barbarians. If you don;t then actually you are the extremist. Kind of like UPA govt's move viz a viz illegal aliens from Bangladesh. The usual rule for all other nation's illegal aline whereby burden of proof of lgality is on individual doesn;t hold in case of Bangaldeshis actually it's indian police that has to prove that so and so is illegal. This means as a french for instance you might be deported if u don;t have p;apers in order but as a bangaldeshi if u don't have papers in order u might get rartion card and passport. This has been done opposing supreme court's verdict you may ask why well simple reason is that these mofos vote for congress after getting ration card. same is the case of Islam burden of proof lies with the rest isalm itself can;t be held accoutanble for its actions since it's being done under religion umbrella so presumably everythign has some ulterior goodness attached to it. You know the kind where 900 jews slaughered one fine day by great man must have ben done for larger good .. Hit ler missed this trick of religoon wrapping had he done that weby ow wud be talkign at best in hushed up tone and all those jews murdered wud have gotten some respectablity just like Banu Quraiza massacre gets