Pakistan World Cup row with ICC

[Rajan]

http://content.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/400231.html Opinion | Osman Samiuddin >>World Cup 2011 Sad, but it's the right call The ICC's decision to remove Pakistan from the list of World Cup hosts was inevitable; now Pakistan must focus on finding an alternate base for their future home contests It was only a matter of time before such a decision had to be made. A global event, cricket's showpiece no less, cannot be organised on ifs and buts, on what may or may not happen. Though it is difficult to imagine it now, the situation in Pakistan may well improve by 2011, but the ICC cannot wait. It has to work on as much certainty as it can, for preparing with anything less is preparing for disaster. In such darkness, sadness is understandable, even desirable if it brings introspection, but there should be no place for anger. To pretend, as some ex-players seem to be doing that this is a shock, that Pakistan has been somehow cheated is misguided. It is hollow posturing. Could any team seriously be expected to tour Pakistan after what happened in Lahore? The very point of Sri Lanka's visit was to prove that cricket can go on even as Pakistan burns. The only thing the tour finally proved was that the fires within threaten to take everything down with it, cricket being just one relatively insignificant victim. If that message has not gotten through now, day after deteriorating day, then we can only be embedded in a deep state of denial and that is even more worrying. Ijaz Butt's tasteless attack on Chris Broad and needless defence of the indefensible in the immediate aftermath of Lahore was merely one more drop in this vast ocean of denial. Perhaps it is just that the sheer barbarism, the volume and velocity of atrocity over the last two years has desensitised us. We may be numb to it, but the wounds around the rest of the world are still fresh. Anyway, believing now that the situation here is no worse than the rest of the region, or that security will be better next time, is to miss the point. It isn't the argument any longer that such an attack can happen anywhere: it has only happened here and nowhere else. In Pakistan, cricket is now a target and given the problems various security forces have had against the threat, given the fact that security institutions themselves are repeated targets, can any international team feel safe here? The quicker Pakistan moves on from such emotions the better and the quicker the PCB accept that there will be no international cricket here in the near future the better. An alternate home, or a few, must be found. In appearance the Dubai Sports City stadium is magnificent. Younis Khan and his team have been suitably impressed by the facilities. Maybe it will lack soul but people thought that of Sharjah's early days too. Alternatives are present and the board claims it is working on a number of them, but the Middle East is feasible and workable. Some kind of semi-permanent arrangement must be inked in and soon. These ideas are not new. Until now, however, they have mostly been floated by people outside of Pakistan. It would be considerable service if the PCB and the wider Pakistan cricket fraternity tried now to make a case for why they must seek such options; why we must now, even at this late hour, be pragmatic and rational about it and not be slaves to emotion. Pakistan cannot come out of this alone. The ICC and the cricket world must ensure that Pakistan doesn't continue to meander away like some unruly, sulking misfit. Financially there will be blood; who knows what repercussions there are now for the PCB's recently-inked in TV rights deal? Wealth is concentrated in world cricket, but there is considerable wealth nonetheless and some of it must be spread to make sure Pakistan doesn't wither away. If some kind of compensation can be agreed upon and paid for the potential loss of revenue from the loss of the World Cup, the gesture will be a potent one. FTP home commitments must now be reworked and flexibility shown in working Pakistan into future schedules. The current FTP mess Pakistan is in is admittedly a result of the incompetence of its own administrations, fumblings it can ill afford to repeat. A year such as 2008 must never come again. It wouldn't hurt if somehow Pakistan got their team right either. The last two years have been doubly troubling because the team has been poor. Pakistan sides have always been free and easy with focus, direction and discipline, but wherever they were headed they went with an in-your-face, screw-you gusto, difficult not to admire. Recently, they have meekly drifted into a bland, colourless mediocrity, without a fight, without so much as a yelp. Victory is victory, home, away or in the middle of a desert. And nothing, not even the deepest pockets, eases the pain of so much else - or guarantees relevance globally - quite like sustained success. Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cricinfo =================================== very true. but neither the pakistani establishment nor the ex.cricketers or even their jihadi fans would understand the reality and accept it. they will slit their wrists but blameit on India/RAW/BCCI/Modi/SRT:haha:

[riya]

very true. but neither the pakistani establishment nor the ex.cricketers or even their jihadi fans would understand the reality and accept it. they will slit their wrists but blameit on India/RAW/BCCI/Modi/SRT:haha:

Seriously SRT:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[EnterTheVoid]

I seriously :dontknow: anymore The warped logic of a Pakistani is mind numbing They failed to provide the presidential security they promised, which almost led to the deaths of an international cricket team yet claim they are safe enough to hold the WC "We are hurt and upset at the shift" were the sentiments echoed by their cricketing greats, if you can call them that Not a single Pakistani is playing in the IPL but all they discuss is about the IPL, at the same time sidelining it as a circus, yet it is this same circus they're trying to emulate to bring international cricket to Pakistan A little :bird: - :bird: for me to understand

[donkey]

There was an old saying " Pakistan goes to the highest bidder" guess even that sounds too ambitious now.

[Rajan]

There was an old saying " Pakistan goes to the highest bidder" guess even that sounds too ambitious now.

"pakistan goes to any bidder":hysterical:

[Mamu]

KARACHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) said on Saturday it estimated financial losses of $10.5 million following the International Cricket Council (ICC) decision to shift the 2011 World Cup matches from the country. ‘We lose out on earning the hosting fees of the matches...the ICC pays out the host country $750,000 for each match,’ Saleem Altaf, chief operating officer of the board told Reuters. Pakistan was scheduled to host 14 matches including one semi-final of the World Cup after the ICC awarded the tournament to Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. India got the lion's share of matches as it is scheduled to host 22 games, including the final, with Sri Lanka hosting nine games and Bangladesh six, including the opening ceremony. On Friday the ICC executive board decided to shift the World Cup matches due to the security situation in Pakistan. Altaf said that being stripped of the World Cup matches was a setback for Pakistan cricket, adding that financial losses could be greater. He said Pakistan has already lost a lot of estimated revenues due to cancellation of tours by Australia and India last year. The Champions Trophy was to be held in Pakistan in Sept-Oct last year but the ICC relocated the eight-nation event to South Africa. Sources in the PCB marketing department told Reuters the combined loss of estimated revenues since last year is around $40 million.

So India gets 22 games now. But who hosts the 2nd semis? It is not clear. Every match hosted gets $750,000.00 is a lot of money for at least the bhikaris. No wonder they are *****ing all over -- jumping up and down like they will have to sell their wives and sisters to Arabs to just survive.

[THX_1138]

Seriously SRT:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

he did end the careers of three of their most illustrious bowlers: waqar, wasim and saqlain. two of those he ended in one game and one he needed some help from sehwag...

[THX_1138]

"pakistan goes to any bidder":hysterical:

you bid on players for the IPL, and get pakistan free.

[Macj]

Heres what it boils down to , for me at least. The net wins vs losses against Pak is deep in the red for us, partly because of the numerous biased games in Sharjah that went their way and also becaause for the better part of the 70s and 80s they were the better team on an average day. So now, we are overwhelmingly the superior team by a mile and then some, we should actually play them more, a lot more to negate that difference, especially since theyre on their knees and will play anyone anywhere anyhow.

[Feed]

India to host 29 matches of 2011 World Cup: report India to host 29 matches for 2011 World cup. It will host the final match and one semi-final match. Sri Lanka will host 12 matches and Bangladesh to host eight matches. Bangladesh to host opening ceremony and a match on Feburay 18 and 19. More...

[Sachinism]

do i go on ** and laugh at some extremely pissed off people? lol

[Desi Cartman]

I am already excited

[ViruRulez]

The opening ceremony should have been in India too... kuch aur hi baat hoti if the opening ceremony would have been in India .. nowadays BCCI organizes the IPL opening ceremony with such grandeur .. WC opening ceremony would have been extravaganza for the world to see

[Laaloo]

I can smell a lot of ass burning from our padosis :D

[Gambit]

Awesome! For a change, some of the WC matches won't be played in tabelas like they were in '87 and '96.

[graphic23]

YES. :yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay:

[THX_1138]

man this is just cruel... stealing candy from a toddler and then dividing it amongst the victors while the vanquished are still to come to grips with the loss. a bit like how the allied powers divided germany at yalta before the invasion of europe even began!

[Laaloo]

World Cup 2011 World Cup shifts base from Lahore to Mumbai Cricinfo staff April 27, 2009 The Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai will become a key figure in the 2011 World Cup © AFP The 2011 World Cup is shifting base from Lahore to Mumbai and India expects to get a "big share" of the 14 matches that were initially allotted to Pakistan. The Indian board (BCCI) is hosting a meeting in Mumbai tomorrow where the tournament's organising committee will be reconstituted without representatives from Pakistan, which was stripped of its co-host status this month due to the prevailing political situation in the country. A decision is also expected to be taken to move the tournament's central organising secretariat, its operational nerve centre, from Lahore to Mumbai. Apparently, the re-allotment of Pakistan's 14 matches will also be discussed at the meeting. "Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are the co-hosts and out of those two, Bangladesh has only one venue to host all the matches," BCCI sources said. "So obviously, India will expect to get a big share of those matches." The sources, however, admitted that one potential hurdle for the event would be if Pakistan refuses to play its matches in Indian venues because of cross-border political tensions. "In that case, Pakistan's matches will have to held in Lanka or Bangladesh but there's two years to go and it's too early to comment on that now," the sources said. The ICC executive board on April 17 had resolved not to hold any 2011 World Cup matches in Pakistan because the "uncertain political situation" in the country would have made it difficult to "deliver a safe, secure and successful event". In January, the PCB had named Salman Sarward Butt, a banker, as managing director of the tournament's central organising secretariat but Haroon Lorgat, the ICC's chief executive, is now expected to announce a new set-up in Mumbai after Tuesday's meeting. Sharad Pawar, the ICC vice-president, heads the tournament's organising committee. © Cricinfo

[Mamu]

I don't even know why should India share the WC with anybody -- let alone Pakistan. If other countries have the capabilities to host -- let them -- if SL and Bangladesh can do it on their own let them do it. India should just wait its turn and host it when it gets a chance. Why does it go out if its way to please SL, Bangladesh and Pak is beyond me. If it is so required let BCCI support these nations to host the WC on their own.

[Desi Cartman]

India is not safe for 2011 World Cup: Miandad told ICC

KARACHI: Former captain Javed Miandad argued in International Cricket Council's recent Dubai meeting that if Pakistan is unsafe to host 2011 World Cup matches, India is not a safe venue either. Sources privy to the meeting that took place in Dubai last week said Miandad, now a director-general of the Pakistan Cricket Board, and governing council member Shakil Sheikh made the strong plea that if the ICC had security concerns about having the World Cup matches in Pakistan, the situation in India and Bangladesh was also not encouraging. "They argued that the security situation in India had also not been very good in recent times and there was no guarantee it would not deteriorate in coming months while the situation in Bangladesh also remained uncertain," the source said. The duo claimed that there were also doubts about India hosting the hockey World Cup or Commonwealth Games in 2010. ICC President David Morgan and CEO Haroon Lorgat told the PCB delegation, led by president Ejaj Butt, that apart from the attack in the Sri Lankan team in Lahore, financial reasons also played its part in the decision to move the 2011 World Cup matches from Pakistan. "Morgan and Lorgat told the PCB delegation that the ICC had already suffered financial losses due to the late relocation of the Champions Trophy from Pakistan," one source said. "They made it clear that because of the security situation the ICC was forced to move the Champions Trophy out of Pakistan after considerable delay which had already led to losses in earnings from the tournament," the source added. The source disclosed that Morgan and Lorgat had told the PCB members that no executive board member was willing to play in Pakistan following the unprecedented attack on the Sri Lankan team. "Morgan and Lorgat noted that such an incident had never happened in any country and it was a big setback for Pakistan cricket. They insisted the attack had changed the views of many ICC member boards who earlier were undecided about playing in Pakistan," the source said.

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