King Tendulkar Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yes thats right he is a genuine all rounder and the best in the world. He will go on to be remebered as a good all rounder. Some may feel I have gone nuts after his pathetic performances with the ball in the ashes:--D However, I feel he will certainly get it back with ball in due course, that is inevitable. However, its with the bat that he has conviced me he is a genuine top all rounder. I saw his performances in SA with the bat and he was superb. But it was actually his last knock at Lords that sealed it for me. As he was batting in the middle of that ferocious spell Flintoff bowled. He was getting peppered but technically stood up to it and never flinched, great bowling but good batting as freddie did not get him out depite his best efforts. Anything of line by flintoff and Johnson put it away despite the ferocity of the other balls. He avergaes 35 with 1 ton and 4 fifties, he will certainly get loads more fifties and no doubt a few more tons. He also averges 29 with the ball. These are great figures for an all rounder. And I believe we have not seen anywere near the best of Johnson, especially with the bat were I feel he will get a lot better. It is time to see Johnson as a top all rounder now and not simply a bowler. To me he is the premier all rounder in the world now surpassing Kallis and the retiring Flintoff! Link to comment
Bradman99 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I agre with you there mate, he is an all rounder, no doubt about it. It's funny because it sort of just came out of no where, no one thought he could really bat at the start. I'm not sure about him being a better all rounder then Kallis yet though, it will take a little bit more of him to convince me of that but I agree that he is surpassing Flintoff. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 ^^ I doubt anyone will be a better all rounder than Kallis Link to comment
Lord Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 he is not an allrounder.s someone else said in other thread,an allrounder should be capable of being picked both for batting n bowling.i dont think u can pick MJ for batting Link to comment
Sachinism Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 ^^ If he was competing with another bowler to get in the side, he would be picked because of his batting ability Link to comment
Lord Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 ^^ If he was competing with another bowler to get in the side' date=' he would be picked because of his batting ability[/quote'] yup but if he gets injured n is unable to bowl,would u pick him in the side as a batsman alone?i dont think so Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 yup but if he gets injured n is unable to bowl' date='would u pick him in the side as a batsman alone?i dont think so[/quote'] in that case i doubt any of the current crickets can be called an allrounder. Kallis and oram wont be picked for their bowling alone, flintoff would never be picked for his batting. The only possible exception could be sakib from BD but thats because they have limited set of international players Link to comment
Sachinism Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I think Kallis could be picked for either thing. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 I agre with you there mate, he is an all rounder, no doubt about it. It's funny because it sort of just came out of no where, no one thought he could really bat at the start. I'm not sure about him being a better all rounder then Kallis yet though, it will take a little bit more of him to convince me of that but I agree that he is surpassing Flintoff. Yeah it did come out of no where his batting prowess. But the way he bats in terms of technique, temprament and confidence leads me to say he is the best at the moment and will prove it over due course with good batting displays. But I agree 99% of people will still go for Kallis. But Johnson will prove me correct Link to comment
Lord Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 well on potential,i would say Reolf Van Der Merwe n Angelo Mathews can be great allrounders Link to comment
nballa Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 they said the same about irfan pathan. Link to comment
diegovegaz Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 he is developing his batting quite well he is capable of pulingl his team out of any situation Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 So, can we at ICF recognize him as an all rounder by marking him as an all rounder in Ashes Super Selector? On a lighter note.. I think Younis Khan is developing into a nice bowler in this series against the lankaboyz Link to comment
Ram Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Could he be a genuine all-rounder? Possibly. Is he the best in the world? Far from it. Link to comment
satishg Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 He has it in him to become a genuine all-rounder but he is not there yet. Right now he is primarily a bowler who can more than decently bat. It will take some time to brand him as a genuine all-rounder and it will take a lot of time to call him the best in that. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Could he be a genuine all-rounder? Possibly. Is he the best in the world? Far from it. We will see:--D I have seen enough of his batting to have a lot of faith it Link to comment
Chorazin Reto Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 At the moment i agree with a lot of other posters who see his potential but dont rate him as highly as say a Kallis or Flintoff. Having said this he has a good technique,a good eye, and power to burn when he throws the bat at the ball. Link to comment
DomainK Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Too early. I don't think he has done enough. Link to comment
THX_1138 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 he is not an allrounder.s someone else said in other thread' date='an allrounder should be capable of being picked both for batting n bowling.i dont think u can pick MJ for batting[/quote'] that would be the qualification of arnold schwarzenegger if arnold ever played cricket. an allrounder is not a player who is both a batsman and a bowler, equally competent in either department as the other specialists in the team. heck, if that were the standards of judging such allrounders, a typical one might be faced with two opportunities to disappoint and malign the team management. an allrounder is one that must provide the captain/team with an additional option: either an additional bat, or an additional bowler. having said that, trying to force an allrounder out of a lead strike bowler would be a grotesque error, that ought to be identified with its own verb: an 'irfan pathaned'... so i do home that the australians are not guilty of destroying M.J.'s career with excessive irfan pathaning. Link to comment
Chorazin Reto Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I hope not, the mantle of lead strike bowler was sort of thrust upon him with Lee's exit due to injury, then he became the most experienced express quick Aus had, with Hilfy and Siddle being even more inexperienced than Johnson. I think if Lee returns 100% and is bowling like he did b4 the rib injury in England he will assume the role of lead strike bowler backed up by Johnson. I think Johnson may get a promotion above Lee in the batting department tho :D Link to comment
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