Seems like all the IPL related Pak apologists from India have forgotten 26/11.

[I_India]

I agree with this post online-

I truly believe that if pakistani players were chosen, part of their taxes would have been taken by State Actors, ISI and given to Non-State Actors like the lashka rs and teh riks.That would have meant Indian money to kill Indians. Simple thing was not to choose anyone from Pk.

[gs]

^^^I have taken this a step further and have always boycotted stuff manufactured in Pakistan, be it t-shirts or biryani masala. I dont want to be a contributor to state/nonstate actors/jehad in any way!! Not sure if this is going to make a big difference, but at least it helps me sleep better at night.

[Params7]

Racism? :hysterical::--D

What you think this is sugar bonding? That's exactly what it appears to foreigners. Look at the damage control being done now.

[Params7]

After seeing the reactions of Pakistanis after being rejected from the IPL, I'm glad they've been rejected. They all have an inbuilt hatred towards Indians, why should be we allow scum like that into the country? We've seen the relations some ex-cricketers keep, how do you know some of the current players don't have similar relationships with similar people. Why fill their pockets, so they can go help their buddies?

Yeah we invite them to AH and then backstab them like little girls and you expect them to send us a greeting card with flowers saying "oh we understand why you didn't pick any of us India"? You can't be serious right? Inbuilt hatred against Pakis is in a lot of Indians I see on this forum, including myself lol, everybody here has seen me embarrass Pakis on this forums in Paki matches threads, but this drama just makes India look more cowardly than Pakistan, I don't know how it does not affect your pride and ego. If ISI grabbing our money is an issue, have the stones to reject Pakis from the AH in the next one, or accept to play fair because mixing politics with sports is one sure way to kill interest in it. Indians have more respect for Fifa, NFL etc than they'll ever have for IPL because such BS is allowed to happen.

[Sachinism]

If you have seen my other posts on this subject you would have seen I said it was quite bad the way things were handled, if they weren't going to be picked, they should have been informed beforehand. That post was after seeing the reactions of Pakistani players, politicians, tv celebs and fans; that's when I felt 'screw them'. Again I can't blame them for being angry for the way they were treated, but there were quite a few people taking shots at India on unrelated issues. Then you see how these people really are and what they really think, so its a ..:finger: to them

[pappu_kanghi]

^^^I have taken this a step further and have always boycotted stuff manufactured in Pakistan' date=' be it t-shirts or biryani masala. I dont want to be a contributor to state/nonstate actors/jehad in any way!! Not sure if this is going to make a big difference, but at least it helps me sleep better at night.[/quote'] Brilliant. Now go and tell all the people living in Uttar Pradesh to stop giving taxes to the Govt. Because Mayawati is using crores of their money for building her and her family members statues. And for the security of those meaningless statues they are spending around 50 crores which can be used for improving the security of people living in UP. You do know the crime rate in UP right? Tumhare 1 achaar ki bottle ya 500gm garam masala na buy karne se kisi ko koi farak nahi parta. Chale hai boycott karne. We indians dont understand the root of our own problems and blame everything on the neighbours. Without local support no bomb blast can take place in india. Dont you understand that? Neighbours can only take advantage but its our own fault when we allow them to take it.

[gs]

Brilliant. Now go and tell all the people living in Uttar Pradesh to stop giving taxes to the Govt. Because Mayawati is using crores of their money for building her and her family members statues. And for the security of those meaningless statues they are spending around 50 crores which can be used for improving the security of people living in UP. You do know the crime rate in UP right? Tumhare 1 achaar ki bottle ya 500gm garam masala na buy karne se kisi ko koi farak nahi parta. Chale hai boycott karne. We indians dont understand the root of our own problems and blame everything on the neighbours. Without local support no bomb blast can take place in india. Dont you understand that? Neighbours can only take advantage but its our own fault when we allow them to take it.

Never said India was perfect. We have our share of domestic problems and we will have to deal with it ourselves. But some of the major national security threats originate from state/non-state actors based/funded/trained in Pakistan. Not buying products manufactured in Pak is my way of protesting (minor as it maybe) and it gives me some satisfaction. Is it going to solve all of India's domestic problems? NO Is it going to bring down the terrorism factory in Pak? NO I never claimed that boycotting pak products is a silver bullet to all our problems. Not sure how you can compare a political problem in UP with terrorism originating from Pakistan, and what are you trying to rationalize?

[sunit224]

Guys I have never seen any paki defending India or its interests on any pak forum... we get so worked up on everything. On the other hand it shows we still have many moderate people on our side and none in pak... :winky: I am happy pak players are not allowed in IPL though i feel they should have never been allowed to appear for auction.

[achilles]

PC & Dawn News are making them all nervy :yay:

[I_India]

What you think this is sugar bonding? That's exactly what it appears to foreigners. Look at the damage control being done now.

Call it anything you want but racism? :giggle: Damage control because India does not have balls of steel.

[Texy]

Brilliant article on Rediff The polemics emanating from the IPL affront to Pakistani cricketers again brings to the fore the confused morass that is the Indian psyche; a jumble of misplaced morality and mawkish sentimentalism that revels in sadomasochistic self doubt and translates into a gibberish that has no functional value. The net result is a floundering nation unsure of how to confront the inimical forces that confront it. In simple terms, a country that is unable to make strong decisions and stick by it. Rajasthan Royals' co-owner Shilpa Shetty unusually forthright response to the brouhaha that followed the non-selection of the Pakistani players was a breath of fresh air. She bluntly remarked: "People have to be a little more sensitive, a bit more mature. Let's not be hypocrites and let's not turn a blind eye to the already volatile situation. you must look at it pragmatically and see that we have had these people who are constantly threatening. "It's not something we hold against the Pakistani players. We completely understand the situation but as franchise owners are we willing to take that risk? If something happens to the Pakistani players, the onus lies on us and who is going to take responsibility for a situation like that? When we said 'availability', we wanted complete assurance that those players would be available in the country and that we were going to be able to provide security for them." At the outset the near unanimity of action of the IPL was praiseworthy. It was grounded in reality, made good business sense, accounted for security concerns and above all resonated with the national sentiment prevalent in the nation post 26/11. Although the IPL refuted the charge of a premeditated conspiracy there was no denying the undercurrent of patriotic fervour. It was strong decision but subtle and hurt the enemy where it hurt most. And for once India [ Images ] revealed a depth to its character, an ability to stand up for itself, a new found confidence that clearly said: 'Don't toy with us'. But alas the satisfaction was short lived. Soon notes of dissent surfaced with our honorable home minister and a Bollywood icon mouthing a namby-pamby view that was in line with India's perpetual guilt complex. There was no need to be apologetic about the IPL stance. Yet there was Shah Rukh Khan decrying the decision not with a logical counterpoint but by singing paeans to Pakistan and invoking personal ties. He remorsefully exclaimed:" It (Pakistan) is a great neighbour to have. We are great neighbours, They are good neighbours. Let us love each other. Let me be honest. My family is from Pakistan, my father was born there and his family is from there," Two glaring inconsistencies stand out in this remark. One, if Pakistan is really a great neighbour then I am Albert Einstein. Without mincing words let me say that Pakistan is a deadbeat nation that is nothing more than a drag on India's progress. The less we have to do with this nation the better. The second objection concerns the merging of private and public domains. I have no issue with Shah Rukh Khan's personal empathy for Pakistan borne out of familial affiliations even if it cuts across hostile boundaries. But can a national icon cite family ties to influence the professional decisions of an India based organisation or to sway public opinion? The home minister's response too was unnecessarily defensive with an uncalled for dose of self reproach. He dubbed the non-inclusion of Pakistani cricketers as a 'disservice to cricket and contended that 'these players were coming as individuals, it was not a Pakistan team.' Another misperception that stems from a lack of pragmatic thinking. A perusal of the following excerpt (Saba Naqvi. It's Not Cricket. Outlook, January 25) reveals that these Pakistani players are not isolated individuals but members of a larger hate India club that is Pakistan. 'Consider this conversation that took place in a TV show titled 'A morning with Farah' on ATV, a Pakistan channel. Sohail Tanvir, who helped the Rajasthan Royals win and got the highest number of wickets in the first IPL is being interviewed by another journalist while the glamorous hostess, Farah, looks on. Consider Tanvir's remark: 'Hinduon ki zahaniyat hi aisi hai (the Hindu nature is like that only)' the implication being that the Hindus have deliberately deceived and humiliated Pakistanis. The journalist responds with a remark about Indians being baniyas and says: 'bagal me chhuri/ muuh me Ram Ram' (they are ready to plunge a knife behind your back though they will keep saying Ram Ram). The gentleman with this shocking view of Indians in general and Hindus in particular then goes on about how India is tricking Pakistan out of hosting the World Cup next year.' This vitriolic outpouring is shocking but what makes it even more despicable is the prime time prominence given to such Hindu/Indophobic venom. In comparison, it is hard to find such rabid talk from even the far right of the India's political spectrum and certainly not on national television. It is this stark difference between the two nations that needs to sink into the fuzzy minds of our peaceniks. We, in India are quick to vilify those who propose a hard line approach to Pakistan that includes severing cricket ties by branding them as radical and uncivilised. We cannot mix cricket with politics is the oft quoted mantra. But what is so sacred about this dichotomy? Is it a directive derived from logic or common sense or an abstract feel good notion with no utility value? And has continued cricketing ties mitigated Pakistan's terror shenanigans? I would like to look at in another way. This is not about cricket and politics but cricket and humanity. I am passionate about cricket and love the game. But that is the point. Cricket is merely a game and must take second place to humane concepts. Is it not barbaric that we choose to continue playing cricket with a people whose compatriots routinely massacre our innocent civilians? I find it uncouth when we walk over the dead bodies of the carnage of 26/11 and extend a 'loving' hand to Pakistan and Pakistanis? This suggests that we care little for the lives of our citizens and more for our image and entertainment. This train of terror cannot go on. We must draw the line somewhere and it is here and now even if it means no cricket.

[yoda]

^ most indians understand all that. there is nothing profoud there. the main question is, if we didn't want them to play in the IPL, why did we put them up for auction? why did we ask for visa clearance for them? what was the need for all that? it shows that the IPL itself initially wanted to allow them and then decided to do a U-turn at the last minute.

[coffee_rules]

I am glad they are not playing in Indian domestic cricket, although I feell they would have been more humiliated if we hadn't included them in the auction to begin with.