Texan Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 If selectors were sane enough, they would have done this long ago, but what they need is India losing from winning positions to realize this. DROP THEM AND DON'T PICK THEM BACK FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS AT LEAST!!
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Texan Posted February 21, 2010 Author Posted February 21, 2010 who will do the bowling then ? :--D Agarkar is 10 times better. People said he leaked runs, but in the death overs, he used to be deadly accurate with his yorkers. He's also a wicket-taker and gets early wickets. Munaf still has a better economy rate than all of these Irfan Pathan is a better bowler and also a decent batsman. Try out R Vinay Kumar or A Mithun
achilles Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Buddy, you are overreacting. Nehra is our best ODI bowler since the past 6 months, Sree & Ishant are better than the bolwers you mentioned above, even when their performance is ordinary.
Gunner_Mania Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Buddy' date=' you are overreacting. Nehra is our best ODI bowler since the past 6 months, Sree & Ishant are better than the bolwers you mentioned above, even when their performance is ordinary.[/quote'] Anybody but Sreesanth.
Texan Posted February 21, 2010 Author Posted February 21, 2010 Buddy' date=' you are overreacting. Nehra is our best ODI bowler since the past 6 months, Sree & Ishant are better than the bolwers you mentioned above, even when their performance is ordinary.[/quote'] Buddy, I am not over-reacting. Nehra in 2009/10 season has an economy rate of 6.15 and average of 35. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/31820.html?class=2;season=2009%2F10;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings And Sreesanth and Ishant - I don't even need to provide statistics of how terrible they bowl in ODIs. Agarkar, Munaf and Pathan are all bowlers who got dropped because of one poor series. Otherwise, they were decent bowlers... better than these clowns!
spectre Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Sreesanth is 24 carat crap in ODIs He is utter rubbish for ODIs and this idiot was dancing to send off a horrendous throw so casually, not realizing a couple of runs would have drew the match He should stick to dubai dance shows and spare this Indian team i am pissed off with him and the absolute sh1tty bowlers we have :mad:
Show_stopper Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Well said..its was incredible how he kept pitching the ball repeatedly at the centre of the pitch @ 125 kph!!!
ViruRulez Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 who will do the bowling then ? :--D :dito: perhaps the OP wants to bowl himself .. need to check our reserves before making such a thread .. domestic bowlers are trundlers compared to these :giggle:
gult Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Except sreesanth, everybody bowled reasonably well under these conditions.
urbestfriend Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 I agree with OP, we should give no more chances to Sree, Ishant and Nehra in ODIs. Irfan, Munaf, Aggy, Tyagi, Mithun etc should be tried
achilles Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Buddy, I am not over-reacting. Nehra in 2009/10 season has an economy rate of 6.15 and average of 35. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/31820.html?class=2;season=2009%2F10;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings And Sreesanth and Ishant - I don't even need to provide statistics of how terrible they bowl in ODIs. Agarkar, Munaf and Pathan are all bowlers who got dropped because of one poor series. Otherwise, they were decent bowlers... better than these clowns! Buddy, Aggy is not even close to being the bowler he was once upon a time. Munaf has no pace, no swing, no bounce, no variation. Sree is expensive but he has atleast 3 of these things, if not all the 4. Irfan isn't even playing for Baroda at the moment so maybe something's up with him.
Texan Posted February 21, 2010 Author Posted February 21, 2010 :dito: perhaps the OP wants to bowl himself .. need to check our reserves before making such a thread .. domestic bowlers are trundlers compared to these :giggle: So, does that mean we keep persisting with below average bowlers who have time and again leaked runs by the ton? Nehra, Ishant and Sree have all got PLENTY of chances. And for the record, neither is Agarkar a trundler nor is A Mithun. they both bowl 135 + and R Vinay Kumar bowls around 130 - 135 (about the pace at which Ishant operates these days). So, we're not talking about trundlers. I for one would even like to take a chance with Kamran Khan. Good pace and has an excellent yorker. So what if he hasn't played domestic cricket.
The Outsider Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Why don't you guys come to terms with the fact that no fast bowler can bowl on these kind of pattas with any consistency? You can keep recycling bowlers and even import them, but everyone is going to get smashed. There might be the odd good performance, but the general trend is going to be about whoever smashes fast bowling better wins the match.
Texan Posted February 21, 2010 Author Posted February 21, 2010 Why don't you guys come to terms with the fact that no fast bowler can bowl on these kind of pattas with any consistency? You can keep recycling bowlers and even import them' date=' but everyone is going to get smashed. There might be the odd good performance, but the general trend is going to be about whoever smashes fast bowling better wins the match.[/quote'] Yes, but how many fast bowlers get smashed by numbers 9 & 10 the way Sree and Nehra got today? Wouldn't most countries have finished the match once the opposition was 8 down and needing 12 an over? I can't think of any other team that would have slipped at such a stage.
Mr. Wicket Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 who will do the bowling then ? :--D MSD with 135 kmh reverse swing. :amitdance:
Texan Posted February 21, 2010 Author Posted February 21, 2010 Buddy, Aggy is not even close to being the bowler he was once upon a time. Munaf has no pace, no swing, no bounce, no variation. Sree is expensive but he has atleast 3 of these things, if not all the 4. Irfan isn't even playing for Baroda at the moment so maybe something's up with him. Buddy, did you watch Aggy bowl in the Ranji Trophy final? He was getting reverse swing, bowling yorkers even on the 5th day towards the end of the match and his pace was still above 135 kph. About Irfan, not sure why he's not playing if you say so, but he was captain of the Baroda Ranji team this season.
Ram Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 There's no point singling out anyone, when its bloody clear that our bowling in general has shown itself to be totally impotent when it comes to defending totals under lights. The sheer regularity with which we make routinely make close affairs out of massive 300+ chases is alarming. Time after time, team after team, have casually smashed our bowling when we're defending targets. What initially looked like some bad habit, has now become second nature.
The Outsider Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Yes' date=' but how many fast bowlers get smashed by numbers 9 & 10 the way Sree and Nehra got today? Wouldn't most countries have finished the match once the opposition was 8 down and needing 12 an over? I can't think of any other team that would have slipped at such a stage.[/quote'] Bhaiyya, Parnell and Steyn are not your typical number 9 and 10 batsmen - Parnell played the Under 19 WC as a genuine all rounder and showed his batting skills even in the test at Calcutta. Steyn scored 70 runs in a 180 run partnership against the phaasht bowling of Australia. They are good batsmen.
cowboysfan Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 i dont mind tail enders hitting a few runs but none of our fast bowlers know the art of death bowling.we have a new bowling coach but its the same dreading feeling i get after 40 overs have been bowled.
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