h4te Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 :hehe: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
patriot Posted May 6, 2010 Author Posted May 6, 2010 A BIG miss by Vishy...Phew...what a fighting match 6.5 hours. Vishy did all he possibly could, but wasn't able to finish the endgame with 2 menacing rooks to none of Topalov. 3 more matches to go with scored tied at 4.5 - 4.5. Topalov has 2 chances with White compared to one for Vishy. I am nervous as hell. I hope Anand manages to hold on to a draw next game.
cowboysfan Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 this is turning into an epic jinx thread,not surprised however since its started by our favorite paki lover/hater.
patriot Posted May 6, 2010 Author Posted May 6, 2010 ^ LOL..one has got to be down right silly to believe that random threads on the blogosphere can jinx sport results. Anand is the greatest since Kasparov and among the top 5 chess players of all time. Our greatest sports achiever BY FAR, being the lone Indian DOMINATING against an army of superbly trained Russians and Eastern Europeans who are practically brought up in chess schools. He has EXTREMELY favorable overall Head to head records against 2 of his greatest contemporary rivals - Kramnik and Topalov ( both vanquishers of Kasparov ). He is 40 now and not at his very best, fitnesswise, today he played a 6.5 hour marathon. Let us hope he can manage to hold on 6-6 , leading to the tiebreaks, where he is inarguably the greatest in rapid chess.
Nova Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 I don't believe in jinx threads. I think Patriot shared his excitement and the belief that Anand was about to win...nothing wrong with that. Having said that, now I feel nervous. Only 3 games to go :nervous:
punjabi_khota Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 ^ LOL..one has got to be down right silly to believe that random threads on the blogosphere can jinx sport results. Anand is the greatest since Kasparov and among the top 5 chess players of all time. Our greatest sports achiever BY FAR, being the lone Indian DOMINATING against an army of superbly trained Russians and Eastern Europeans who are practically brought up in chess schools. He has EXTREMELY favorable overall Head to head records against 2 of his greatest contemporary rivals - Kramnik and Topalov ( both vanquishers of Kasparov ). He is 40 now and not at his very best, fitnesswise, today he played a 6.5 hour marathon. Let us hope he can manage to hold on 6-6 , leading to the tiebreaks, where he is inarguably the greatest in rapid chess. give it up man..we all know what you are doing here. He is not a sportsperson to begin with.
yoda Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 give it up man..we all know what you are doing here. He is not a sportsperson to begin with. Chess is a sport as recognized by the IOC. Seems like it is you who needs to give it up. :winky:
patriot Posted May 7, 2010 Author Posted May 7, 2010 give it up man..we all know what you are doing here. He is not a sportsperson to begin with. LMAO..you must be a mighty paranoid soul. Perhaps the board games you played while growing up are limited to ludo and snakes and ladders. Either that or you have never played a HIGH INTENSITY cerebral sport in your life. http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_shortcut-for-viswanathan-anand-guard-against-fatigue_1379602 “Chess is not a 100 metre race and fitness is a minor issue. However, in a match of high intensity between players with equal talent and skills, fitness could turn out to be a factor. I thought the eighth game loss for Anand was because of fatigue. He defended impeccably after choosing a strange line but he committed a horrible blunder (54…Bc6). That move was not for lack of understanding or knowledge. It looked to me as fatigue,” Opening the batting after fieldling for an entire day and getting out to a loose defensive shot ?
punjabi_khota Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 LMAO..you must be a mighty paranoid soul. Perhaps the board games you played while growing up are limited to ludo and snakes and ladders. Either that or you have never played a HIGH INTENSITY cerebral sport in your life. http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_shortcut-for-viswanathan-anand-guard-against-fatigue_1379602 Opening the batting after fieldling for an entire day and getting out to a loose defensive shot ? doesn't matter how many big words you use, and how many times you mention cerebral, the point is that chess is not a sport. It is funny when some of us Indians get on defensive about it just because we haven't produced many world champions in individual sport in billion years....
yoda Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 doesn't matter how many big words you use' date=' and how many times you mention cerebral, the point is that chess is not a sport. It is funny when some of us Indians get on defensive about it just because we haven't produced many world champions in individual sport in billion years....[/quote'] Isn't that a good enough reason to accept that Chess is a sport; we have produced a world champion, the IOC has recognized it as a sport, now what sense does it make to keep claiming it is not a sport? Personal opinion may be, but you can't expect all others you follow your personal opinion when it is officially recognized as a sport, can you?
punjabi_khota Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 Isn't that a good enough reason to accept that Chess is a sport; we have produced a world champion' date=' the IOC has recognized it as a sport, now what sense does it make to keep claiming it is not a sport? Personal opinion may be, but you can't expect all others you follow your personal opinion when it is officially recognized as a sport, can you?[/quote'] I have a feeling if we had 20(or even 5) gold medalists every time in olympics, we wouldn't be so adamant about chess being recognised as a sport. No body else thinks that is the case ? :dontknow:
Mr. Wicket Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 I would dispute that, pk. After all, the Russians/Soviets always treated chess as a sport (with an even more passionate and intense following in those areas than in India), were instrumental in pushing for it to be recognized as one internationally and they certainly weren't lacking in medalists at the Olympics.
The Outsider Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 Anand's achievements are beyond any doubt. He has been absolutely brilliant, specially when you consider how Chess has been dominated by East Europe since forever. But, despite what IOC or anyone says calling it a sport in the traditional sense is debatable. Sport, traditionally, relies primarily on the physical skills of the competitors and though there is a degree of physical fitness involved with success in Chess, it is by no means the primary skill. Olympics call garbage like Curling as sports, so their word does not have to be gospel.
The Dark Horse Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 Sport or not, he has made every(er..) Indian proud:isalute:
patriot Posted May 7, 2010 Author Posted May 7, 2010 doesn't matter how many big words you use' date=' and how many times you mention cerebral, the point is that chess is not a sport. It is funny when some of us Indians get on defensive about it just because we haven't produced many world champions in individual sport in billion years....[/quote'] Sports by definition are physical but that is relative. Chess' physical aspect is not great BUT very relevant , else you would not have an all time great chess player like Anatoli Karpov losing long drawn tournaments heavily at the *** end of his career. Anand and Topalov and all these super Grandmasters prepare for these World Championships 6 months in advance with cardio etc ..to cope with the strain of such a rigorous competition and develop stamina. No one is getting defensive here. When you see the level of competition in international chess you would recognize what Vishwanathan Anand has done - against the ENTIRE Russian , former USSR and Eastern European brigade. These are countries that have a deep rooted chess culture. Infact, this is easily the sport where India could DOMINATE because we have the intellectual ability and resources to beat the World. Needless to say, this is a far cheaper to pursue than cricket.
patriot Posted May 7, 2010 Author Posted May 7, 2010 tdigi, I am in. I already suggested Salil a round robin format along the lines of the Challengers Tournament. Now, the only caveat in these online Chess competitions is danger of playing against a computer and not a person. :cantstop:. If someone cheats, I am going to unleash my Rybka 3. :hysterical:
patriot Posted May 7, 2010 Author Posted May 7, 2010 On the topic - Anand cunningly played out a tame draw by getting pieces off the board pretty quickly . Smart move to conserve mental energy. Topalov is an annoying bugger who loves to drag on games. Here is what Susan Polgar said in her blog about him and the world championship. White has virtually no losing chances while Black has to defend carefully. Black is not losing but he has to spend more energy playing out this position. It is tough playing against an opponent knowing that there will not be any short game, even in "equal" position. In past World Championships, there have always been short draws as part of the players' strategy to conserve energy. Not with Topalov. I am guessing that this will be one of the longest (if not the longest) World Championship matches in average moves per game. Like him or hate him, Topalov has changed the way how one prepares and approaches a match this magnitude. If we examine Anand's mind even further, here are some things to consider. The score is tied. After holding this game, Anand will try to push hard (but not recklessly) to win game 11. If he wins or draws, he will again play super safe to hold game 12. What would be the worst case scenario for him? A rapid playoff. Anand is deadly in faster time control and this will give him extra confidence. This is why I do not see Anand taking too many chances.
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