Pak "mindset" on terror has changed: Krishna

[seedhi]

Ok, so infiltration in Kashmir has gone up. They are firing across the LoC now, LeT remains untouched and somehow our Foreign Minister has deduced that this implies their mindset has changed. I dont know whether to laugh or to cry.

Pak 'mindset' on terror has changed: Krishna External Affairs Minister S M Krishna believes there has been a “transformation†in the Pakistani mindset in tackling terror and India could try out a “new beginning†with the country. Krishna said as a witness to the meeting of the two countries' Prime Ministers in Thimphu, he was confident that Pakistani Prime Minister Gilani had given sincere assurances on trying to control anti-Indian terror emanating from Pakistani soil. “I found in Thimphu that the mindset of Pakistan is ready to accept a transformation and that was the reason why they invited me to go to Islamabad for pursuing our talks,†he told CNN-IBN's Suhasini Haidar in an exclusive interview. Krishna said the purpose of Home Minister P Chidambaram’s bilateral meetings during his visit to Islamabad next month would be to assess how much of those assurances had been translated to action. On another note, Krishna chastised Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh’s controversial comments during a visit to China, saying that ministers must be “cautious and restrained†in their criticism of other ministries, especially when speaking on foreign soil Suhasini Haidar: Mr Krishna, it isn’t just a year of UPA-II, this week also marks one year of your being External Affairs Minister. How do you think you’ve done? S M Krishna: Well, I think we have done reasonably well in the last one year. We have tried to improve our relationship in the last one year with our neighbours and made an earnest effort to improve our relationship with the rest of the world. To a large extent we have been successful. Suhasini Haidar: Yet according to a CNN-IBN survey -- where we interviewed a group of analysts and experts -- they felt that the foreign ministry may have got some grip on affairs but the main cause of concern is the MEA handling of Pakistan. On both trying to get Pakistan to accept India’s demands on terror but also in convincing the nation of its policy on Pakistan. What happened at Sharm-el-Sheikh? S M Krishna: From Sharm-el-Sheikh we have moved on to Thimphu and then to the telephonic conversation with the Foreign Minister of Pakistan. Pakistan has been one of our most difficult issues. It causes considerable concern. In the backdrop of the attack on Mumbai naturally the country is worked up. The one who has been apprehended and tried has been now sentenced, and the world at large must be satisfied that the due process of law has taken place in India . To that extent we have dealt with Pakistan on the more substantive issues -- I think we made some kind of breakthrough when the two PMs met, and I was also present when they met in Sharm-el-Sheikh too. I found in Thimpu there has been greater affinity and impact in the discussion that took place between the PMs. In Thimpu for the first time the Pakistani Prime Minister assured us -- of course they have assured us earlier also -- that Pakistan soil wont be used for anti- India activities. :hysterical: Suhasini Haidar: In Parliament you referred to that change. You called it the transformation in terms of the assurances you are getting from Pakistan. Could you explain that what kind of transformation are you seeing? Because on the face of it we haven’t seen any action of the kind that India has been demanding when it comes to apprehending the masterminds of 26/11? S M Krishna: When I said transformation, I mean that a new beginning has to be made and for that new beginning both the countries must be ready. I found in Thimphu that the mindset of Pakistan is ready to accept a transformation and that was the reason why they invited me to go to Islamabad for pursuing our talks. My visit to Islamabad is with a view to set the trust element between ourselves. The lack of trust arises because we are not talking to them . We should talk to them freely frankly and be prepared to hear from them what exactly they are willing to tell us. Suhasini Haidar: Significant enough that you are speaking of a change in mindset in Pakistan, because many are saying that in effect India has accepted its failure in persuading Pakistan. That the fact that you are willing to re-engage, willing to start afresh is an acceptance you can’t get Pakistan to do what you were willing to on issues like Hafiz Saeed (founder of the militant group Lashkar-e-Toiba)? S M Krishna: Let us give them the benefit of doubt. Take for example the Hafiz Saeed issued -- based on the dossier we handed over to them they arrested Saeed on several occasions -- on both occasions it is the court of law that intervened and they released him. Let us accept that there is also a due process of law in Pakistan, for example at some times the judiciary in Pakistan is very pro-active. Keeping that in mind, if they had investigated properly in the manner in which we would have done in India perhaps they could have made a good case. Suhasini Haidar: You are saying the problem is the investigation, not the intent. Your optimism isn’t shared by your cabinet colleague. Home Minister P Chidambaram yesterday (Tuesday) spoke on our channel. He said very clearly that Pakistan doesn’t want to act on Hafiz Saeed. He talked about government still supporting infiltration in Kashmir. He spoke about support to LeT by Pakistani government. Is the government speaking in two voices? S M Krishna: Home Minister is right on every count. The Home Minister is also right that Pakistan will have to show greater resolve to tackle those elements coming in the way of good neighbouring relations with countries . It is up to Pakistan to act. The Home Minister is going ahead of me and he is going to meet the Pakistani leadership and he is going to place all the facts so far collected with reference to terrorist activities directed against India from Pakistani soils by Pakistani nationals. I am sure he will be able to present India’s case and then lets see what’s the response from the Pakistani side and then he is going to come back and present his assessment and that will be the basis on which our discussions will proceed. Unless there is action on terror, perhaps I might go to Islamabad and Foreign Minister Qureshi might come to Delhi, things at the government level I am afraid will remain the same. We would like to make a major breakthrough on terror. Suhasini Haidar: But will you be returning to the composite dialogue? S M Krishna: If you look at the Thimpu text there is nothing about the dialogue at all -- the mandate for the Foreign ministers and Foreign Secretaries is to bridge the trust deficit- that is going to be the main theme of our discussions. How do we eliminate this distrust is the central point? Of our dialogue? That will be the starting point and if we can hit common ground then other substantial issues can be taken up. Suhasini Haidar: The Environment Minister visited China and openly critiqued the government, saying it is really becoming tough for Chinese company to work in India as a result of the Home Ministry’s policy. Have you had to do the damage control on this? S M Krishna: Ministers, when they make statements, especially from foreign soil, I think they have to be extremely cautious and restrained in criticizing the policies of our government regardless of which department it is. I think that sums up my views on the controversy. We should accept also the clarification that the Home Ministry has given. Suhasini Haidar: But do you really wish your colleagues wouldn’t speak on Foreign policy --whether its Home or Environment or Defence, everyone seems to have something to say on what is essentially the MEA’s problem? S M Krishna: Every other ministry has something to say about foreign policy formulation and the implementation, for example Defence is intertwined with the External Affairs ministry . Home Ministry in terms of infiltration, terror. It would be our endeavour to get them on board with our thinking as to how we are conducting our foreign policy and if there are deficiencies we can certainly correct them- there is always room for mid-course adjustments we are willing to do that. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/pak-mindset-on-terror-has-changed-krishna/115744-3.html?from=tn

I find SM Krishna an immensely confused individual.

[kabira]

^LOL I find all of them confused Be it ManMohan. Be it Chidambaran. All make me pull my hais.

[Rajiv]

Seriously, if Indian Officials sat in a game of Poker, they will be fooled in no time Chidabaram - Only good as an accountant

[bhanu]

Wow u guys gota b kidding me these people r trying to make peace wit each other so they don't end up in a nuclear war which can kill millions of people within hours...so i m glad pc chidabaram is understanding that pakistan is not kidding bout terrorism...

[satyam1729]

Wow u guys gota b kidding me these people r trying to make peace wit each other so they don't end up in a nuclear war which can kill millions of people within hours...so i m glad pc chidabaram is understanding that pakistan is not kidding bout terrorism...

Pakistan should give up nuclear weapons.

[Clarke]

Seedhi, dont u think things are a bit complex with USA & ISAF in Afghanistan & India trying hard to finally gain the economic power we should've had years back ?

Wow u guys gota b kidding me these people r trying to make peace wit each other so they don't end up in a nuclear war which can kill millions of people within hours...so i m glad pc chidabaram is understanding that pakistan is not kidding bout terrorism...

India has a no first use policy. The only retards that rant of first nuclear strike and nuclear wars are your leaders. Thankfully Uncle Sam keeps a close check.

[Mamu]

Wow u guys gota b kidding me these people r trying to make peace wit each other so they don't end up in a nuclear war which can kill millions of people within hours...so i m glad pc chidabaram is understanding that pakistan is not kidding bout terrorism...

What bloody peace? As these statements are being uttered, there are a gazillion Terrorists-- trained and nurtured by ISI across the border and are being sent in to india -- who are getting killed in gun battles -- and what bloody peace are you are talking about ?

[bhanu]

What bloody peace? As these statements are being uttered' date=' there are a gazillion Terrorists-- trained and nurtured by ISI across the border and are being sent in to india -- who are getting killed in gun battles -- and what bloody peace are you are talking about ?[/quote'] I can say the same for ur rss and alot of other hindu organizations dat ur government doesnt even talk bout...and wat u mean sent to india? u gota b kidding me man ur border must b weak as *** den if terrorist can jus come in as if india is there home!!...ok fine if u dont want peace den let the war begin, i think now war is the only option cuz 1 of these countries have to go now...

[bhanu]

Pakistan should give up nuclear weapons.

Joke of this thread...What if india attack pakistan when dey give up nuclear?

[seedhi]

I can say the same for ur rss and alot of other hindu organizations dat ur government doesnt even talk bout...and wat u mean sent to india? u gota b kidding me man ur border must b weak as *** den if terrorist can jus come in as if india is there home!!

This is rich coming from a country perpetually whining about the porous Afghan border.

...ok fine if u dont want peace den let the war begin' date=' i think now war is the only option cuz 1 of these countries have to go now...[/quote']There is another option, we stand by and watch pakistan collapse. We cut off your water and see you starve.

[Jadoo]

I can say the same for ur rss and alot of other hindu organizations dat ur government doesnt even talk bout...and wat u mean sent to india? u gota b kidding me man ur border must b weak as *** den if terrorist can jus come in as if india is there home!!...ok fine if u dont want peace den let the war begin' date=' i think now war is the only option cuz 1 of these countries have to go now...[/quote'] How many attacks have there been in Pakistan in recent times which can be linked directly back to India? Answer: None. How many attacks in India have there been that can be directly linked to Pakistan? Ans: Countless. Abe saala, barsaat se bachne ki aukaad nahi aur jung khi baat kar rahe hu!!!

[bhanu]

This is rich coming from a country perpetually whining about the porous Afghan border. There is another option' date= we stand by and watch pakistan collapse. We cut off your water and see you starve.

Preety dumb option lol cuz den pakistan won't sit and starve as u imagined...

[seedhi]

Preety dumb option lol cuz den pakistan won't sit and starve as u imagined...

The flow in the western rivers is decreasing naturally, our 40 dams will decrease it even more. You will face an agricultural crisis soon.

[Sachinism]

Joke of this thread...What if india attack pakistan when dey give up nuclear?

India has a no first use policy. The only retards that rant of first nuclear strike and nuclear wars are your leaders. Thankfully Uncle Sam keeps a close check.

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[bhanu]

The flow in the western rivers is decreasing naturally' date=' our 40 dams will decrease it even more. You will face an agricultural crisis soon.[/quote'] Seriously and we will just wait and watch u gota b kidding me if u expect that

[Jadoo]

Seriously and we will just wait and watch u gota b kidding me if u expect that

Your doing a good job of it whilst America is dumping it's drones on you.

[Guest Gunner]

Seriously and we will just wait and watch u gota b kidding me if u expect that

Ok, you won't stand by and watch. What will you do, pray tell us.

[The Outsider]

The flow in the western rivers is decreasing naturally' date=' our 40 dams will decrease it even more. You will face an agricultural crisis soon.[/quote'] The entire cutting off water supplies is hugely exaggerated. For the Ganga it has already been shown that by the time Ganga reaches Kanpur, 75% of it's water is groundwater fed and at Patna 99%. I don't expect other Himalayan rivers to have vastly different water profiles. The only impact it is going to have is in the foothills.

[Mamu]

I can say the same for ur rss and alot of other hindu organizations dat ur government doesnt even talk bout...and wat u mean sent to india? u gota b kidding me man ur border must b weak as *** den if terrorist can jus come in as if india is there home!!...ok fine if u dont want peace den let the war begin' date=' i think now war is the only option cuz 1 of these countries have to go now...[/quote'] First of all your idea about Pakistan and Terrorism is just like 80% of your population -- Keep Your Heads Buried In The Sand and Never accept reality. Wonder why -- your country is in a shyte hole -- just because of people like you -- which is why I have repeatedly said -- there is no hope for you and your nation. Regarding RSS -- when was the last time they came into Pakistan and Kiled a Single Paki ?? I know like most of the Pakis who I have asked this question -- you will not answer it -- cuz you dont have an answer. Last but not the least -- just because there is no peace -- does not mean India will go on nuking Paki land. I just don't want India to do anything with Pakistan. No interaction nothing. Just leave us fecking alone and you live your god damned lives in your shyte hole -- I could give a feck !

[bhanu]

Your doing a good job of it whilst America is dumping it's drones on you.

Wow @ briniging america in this :giggle: