Indian cricket team to skip Asian Games, Kumble diappointed

[Desi Cartman]

lol China is gonna win a gold in kirkut it seems

[b555]

Kalmadi slams BCCI for not sending teams to Asian Games http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/6002418.cms

[achilles]

I support Mr.Kalmadi although what he said was more of a political rant to his personal rivals, NCP.

[Dinx - the Jinx]

i would be interested in knowing what the players think about this whole thing. but bcci wont let them speak out in public...

[hari504504]

i would be interested in knowing what the players think about this whole thing. but bcci wont let them speak out in public...

We're professional in that regard..unlike countries where every tom dick and harry is mouthing off at random press conferences even if they've only played 2-3 games for the country...

[cricketrulez]

This rule is applicable in all other sports in the world and celebrities much bigger than our cricketers have signed it without any problems. Be it soccer or atheletes or Boxing.

Wrong numbnuts! FIFA and UEFA has rejected the whereabouts clause for teh offseason. IT had offered up previous offenders and injured players as a sacrifice. Read up

[Roshanrocks]

Wrong numbnuts! FIFA and UEFA has rejected the whereabouts clause for teh offseason. IT had offered up previous offenders and injured players as a sacrifice. Read up before you

whats with the name calling? :dontknow:

[b555]

Pakistan, Sri Lanka To Send Cricket Teams For Asian Games link

[Gunner_Mania]

India are right to shun Asian Games for more demanding pursuits These have been two months to forget for the Board of Control for Cricket in India. The Indian Premier League scandal saw it accused of dragging the game into disrepute. India's subsequent early exit from the World Twenty20 saw a fresh chargesheet prepared, this time for having sold the national team down the river in the quest for riches. Now, it is in the dock for burning the flag, metaphorically of course. No Indian team will take part in the Asian Games to be held in Ghangzhou this November, despite the Olympic Council of Asia having just approved a Twenty20 competition for the continental event. "We would not be able to send our team, both men and women, for the Asian Games in China because of international commitments," said Ratnakar Shetty, the board's chief administrative officer. "We have communicated the same to the Indian Olympic Association." Cue much patriotic indignation and frothing at the mouth, default positions in any case for most of India's media outlets. Given the country's pathetic medal haul at global and continental level, some of the angst is understandable. The assumption, however, that the BCCI has just robbed India of a potentially precious gold is plain ludicrous. It's not as though Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh would be sending their teams over to play tiddlywinks. The BCCI is now such a ubiquitous target that it really must feel like a turkey at Thanksgiving. For all its faults and omissions, it has made the right decision on the Asian Games. India host New Zealand for Tests and one-dayers in November, by which time the World Cup will be just over two months away. Playing the United Arab Emirates or Maldives is hardly ideal preparation for that. Instead of whipping up mass hysteria, the media should be asking the question: does cricket belong on the Olympic or Asian Games stage? Or will it be an imposter, as football and tennis are? An Olympic medal should be the pinnacle of your sport. If it's not, you really don't have any business being there. You can melt all the Golden League ingots in the world, and they still wouldn't mean half as much as the gold medals that Usain Bolt won in such thrilling fashion at the Bird's Nest in Beijing. Despite the push from some administrators for Twenty20 at the 2020 games, cricket has not been part of the Olympics since 1900, when mighty France won the silver medal. Its only appearance in the Commonwealth Games came at Kuala Lumpur in 1998 when South Africa beat Australia in the gold-medal game. Wanting to grow the game internationally is one thing, but could a cricketer put hand on heart and swear that a gold medal, and that too in the Twenty20 format, meant as much as a series-winning century at the MCG or a five-wicket haul at Lord's in a World Cup final? I spoke to Suresh Raina, currently captaining India's one-day team in Zimbabwe, a fortnight ago and he was at his most animated when talking of his experiences as part of the Test squad that won against South Africa at Eden Gardens in February. He may be the only player to top 400 runs in each of the three IPL seasons, but the Test cap, which has eluded him despite having played 92 ODIs, is as good as it gets. The same argument holds for footballers and rugby players. If you grow up kicking a ball in Stanley Park, you dream of doing the Premier League-Champions League double with Liverpool or Everton, and of winning the World Cup with England. The Olympics don't even enter the picture. A kid tossing a rugby ball around in Pretoria today has visions of Currie Cup-Super 15 glory with the Bulls and of a World Cup triumph in the Springbok shirt. It's nothing but arrogance for administrators and commentators to assume that the Olympics should be the pinnacle of sporting achievement. In sports such as athletics and rowing, it is. In others, like football and cycling [the Tour de France is their gold medal], it is not and never will be. The football competitions at the Olympic Games can feature three established players over the age of 23, and they at least play the same form of the sport that you find at the World Cup, over 90 minutes and with standard rules. Cricket and rugby are attempting to enter the Olympic fold with bastardised versions. Rugby sevens is great fun to watch, but Waisale Serevi, its greatest proponent, barely made a mark in the 15-a-side game. Twenty20 cricket and the IPL were put into perspective recently by Rahul Bhattacharya, the most accomplished of the young brigade writing on the game. "The IPL relies not on excellence but entertainment and equality," he wrote. "Equality it tries to ensure via salary caps for a level playing field, and the equalising 20-over format. The equality is a frequent boast. "When Lalit Modi tweets after a low-quality tied game between Punjab and Chennai, 'the most competitive cricket in the world without a doubt,' he understands this in a different way than proper cricket lovers do. He doesn't mean calibre. Equality may make for a few nail-biting finishes but it cannot, ever, substitute excellence." The players themselves do not regard Twenty20 as the pinnacle of the sport because it offers nothing like the same challenge as Test cricket. There are ludicrous free hits, batsmen with dodgy techniques can't be relentlessly attacked with the short ball, the boundary ropes are often drawn in and fielding restrictions allow sloggers to get away with just about anything. Compare that to facing a four-man pace battery at the WACA, with four slips, a gully and a short leg in place. India are right to focus on what matters this November. Over the next nine months, the priority should be to retain the No1 ranking in Tests, and have a serious tilt at the World Cup. Gold medals in an event with no tradition can wait. In a column titled Who Let You Snatch my Medal, Gaurav Kalra contrasts the careers of Sunil Gavaskar and his son, Rohan, who was part of the squad at the 1998 Commonwealth Games. Those are words that will resonate with those who wear national flags on sleeves. For others like me, who grew up wanting to be a Sunny, a Viv or a Greg Chappell, they mean little. I'll take that hundred in front of 90,000 at Eden Gardens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/jun/02/india-asian-games-dileep-premachandran

[CSK Fan]

Wrong numbnuts! FIFA and UEFA has rejected the whereabouts clause for teh offseason. IT had offered up previous offenders and injured players as a sacrifice. Read up before you Bul#$$%

FIFA and UEFA still went ahead and signed the clauses despite them rainisng objections. And the below method might not be the best way to 'reasearch' data on the internet. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/0ba66259238865a6/1691f40e779cc2bd?lnk=raot Who is the numbnut now?

[Gunner_Mania]

FIFA and UEFA still went ahead and signed the clauses despite them rainisng objections. And the below method might not be the best way to 'reasearch' data on the internet. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/0ba66259238865a6/1691f40e779cc2bd?lnk=raot Who is the numbnut now?

:cantstop:

[The Outsider]

This rule is applicable in all other sports in the world and celebrities much bigger than our cricketers have signed it without any problems. Be it soccer or atheletes or Boxing.

Irrelevant. The security threat to Indian cricketers is not even remotely comparable to any athlete or sportsman in the world. The issue has already been discussed to death here : http://indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=172118 http://indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=173734

[CSK Fan]

Irrelevant. The security threat to Indian cricketers is not even remotely comparable to any athlete or sportsman in the world. The issue has already been discussed to death here : http://indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=172118 http://indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=173734

Just one last post in this thread and I will wrap up or we can discuss elsewhere if needed. Do you really think WADA's website is that insecure? They have the details of some of the top celiberities from the world. i will quote from an article http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/aug/12/india-cricket-team-wada-doping-rules There are so many misconceptions that it's hard to find a starting point. The primary issue was one of security. After what happened in Lahore in March, and previous terrorist threats to the likes of Sachin Tendulkar and MS Dhoni, the players are petrified that revealing their future whereabouts to Wada will compromise their safety. Fair enough, you'd think, except for the fact that Wada's online process is as secure as most banking transactions. You, I or AN Ordinary individual won't be able to gatecrash Yuvraj Singh's next party. So dont the players update their details on banking sites, etc?

[The Outsider]

Just one last post in this thread and I will wrap up or we can discuss elsewhere if needed. Do you really think WADA's website is that insecure? They have the details of some of the top celiberities from the world. i will quote from an article http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/aug/12/india-cricket-team-wada-doping-rules There are so many misconceptions that it's hard to find a starting point. The primary issue was one of security. After what happened in Lahore in March, and previous terrorist threats to the likes of Sachin Tendulkar and MS Dhoni, the players are petrified that revealing their future whereabouts to Wada will compromise their safety. Fair enough, you'd think, except for the fact that Wada's online process is as secure as most banking transactions. You, I or AN Ordinary individual won't be able to gatecrash Yuvraj Singh's next party. So dont the players update their details on banking sites, etc?

Red herring. No bank will have information on the daily whereabouts of players 3 months in advance. There are two possibilities here : 1. The WADA site might get hacked. This is not a very realistic possibility. I am sure they would have some of the most secure systems. 2. Someone from WADA reveals the whereabouts of the players either through a bribe or inadvertently. This is a real possibility and threat and cannot be brushed away. WADA has zero reputation of being a secure organization with almost all drug test results having been leaked before they were officially announced. How can you expect people with threats from some of the most dangerous terrorist organizations in the world to trust their daily and hourly locations with such a corrupt and inept organization?

[Temujin Khaghan]

hey anyone remember the commonwealth games and sahara cup (vs pakis) clashed for us some time during 98-99. that time sachin was in his career second-best peak(best being now). anyway what happened was we sent one team with - saurav, azza and all the main players to canada for sahara cup and sachin and newbies to the commonwealth games. i think we lost the sahara 3-2 or 4-1 and we got thrashed in the commonwealth too. sachin came back for the last match against pakistan and scored some 60 odd but we still lost... i think bcci wants to avoid the same situation. so they may not send a A-team and humiliate themselves further.

[ViruRulez]

should have sent the A team at least .. but still not much worried as I dont care about the Asian Games that much .. but if cricket is ever introduced in Olympics and still BCCI does not send the team then I would be mighty pissed off

[asterix]

hey anyone remember the commonwealth games and sahara cup (vs pakis) clashed for us some time during 98-99. that time sachin was in his career second-best peak(best being now). anyway what happened was we sent one team with - saurav, azza and all the main players to canada for sahara cup and sachin and newbies to the commonwealth games. i think we lost the sahara 3-2 or 4-1 and we got thrashed in the commonwealth too. sachin came back for the last match against pakistan and scored some 60 odd but we still lost... i think bcci wants to avoid the same situation. so they may not send a A-team and humiliate themselves further.

Yes. Look what happened to our A team in Zimbabwe..:(( MTC, Apart from security issues, there are privacy issue which many Indian players don't like (You may want to criticise them but that' how they are). Bhajji doesn't wants a WADA official knocking at his door while he is spending time with his family. Heck they've given a miss to events like 'getting medals from President' just to spend more time with their families. Cricket is not an Olympic sports and there is not need to make it an Olympic sports. WADA and it's Aussie chief can go and take a hike..The Aussie chief of WADA has been waiting for ages to have a 'go' and the Indian cricket players. I support BCCI's stand. ICC should cancel it's contract with WADA.

[Params7]

China makes their cricket debut, with India there they would lose but now they can spread the fever if they do well.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Yes. Look what happened to our A team in Zimbabwe..:(( MTC, Apart from security issues, there are privacy issue which many Indian players don't like (You may want to criticise them but that' how they are). Bhajji doesn't wants a WADA official knocking at his door while he is spending time with his family. Heck they've given a miss to events like 'getting medals from President' just to spend more time with their families. Cricket is not an Olympic sports and there is not need to make it an Olympic sports. WADA and it's Aussie chief can go and take a hike..The Aussie chief of WADA has been waiting for ages to have a 'go' and the Indian cricket players. I support BCCI's stand. ICC should cancel it's contract with WADA.

even i support BCCI. infact iam not sure indian cricketers would like being treated as part of the crowd along with the entire indian troop... i mean they are so used to the superstar treatment.

[Gunner_Mania]

I am watching CNN IBN and some of the players like Abinav Bindra, the Hockey captain, Baichung Bhutia etc saying that we have lost opportunity to win sure shot medal at Asian games. :haha: I don't think they know about our bench strength's strength.