Mark Richardson not happy with IPL pinching players

[Sachinism]

What sort of outfit invites teams to a tournament then takes their best players? The Indian Champions League, that's who. It's like going round to your mate's house because he's got the best backyard, the bat and the ball but if you want to play, he gets to pick the teams. This has happened to Central Districts in this year's Indian Champions League. They've lost Ross Taylor to Bangalore Royal Challengers. Taylor had no choice. Under the rules, the Indian Premier League get first dibs on eligible players. They have to pay a US$200,000 release fee but that's chicken feed for these uber-rich parasites. This is so wrong. Ross Taylor is a New Zealander, from Palmerston North. He is not an Indian from Bangalore. If given the chance, I reckon Taylor would see it the same way and play for Central Districts. Remember the emotion he showed when he got CD through to the final of New Zealand's provincial T20 competition? To deny him the choice of allegiance now is akin to what happens in a communist state. You could argue this rule protects players like Taylor. There is big money if you progress in the Champions League and Taylor's best chance is with Bangalore. If the choice is not his, he avoids being vilified by his countrymen if he makes a business decision. With Taylor, CD have a great chance of success. He is a match-winner, as 80 from 30 balls in the HRV final showed. Perhaps more worrying for New Zealand Cricket is that, without Taylor, CD's chances are reduced. Otago were last in the inaugural tournament and a similar display by the New Zealand entrant could have negative consequences. It was hard enough to get the invite and if Indian officials don't see the New Zealand participant as a worthy contributor then we sure won't get a second team there and our participation will be under threat. This is not a desirable outcome because participation comes with a much-needed healthy financial reward. How sickening would it be to see Ross Taylor helping Bangalore knock CD out of the tournament? The rules favour Indian teams and I bet the Indian administration of the Champions League want to avoid the embarrassment of last time when the final was contested between New South Wales and Trinidad & Tobago. But the rules also make a mockery of a fair competition. Players like Taylor, Cameron White and Dale Steyn have all helped their respective provinces to qualify and now they must advantage their IPL team at the expense of their rightful provinces. How stupid is this tournament? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/cricket/news/article.cfm?c_id=29&objectid=10667959

[Lord]

BS.players do have a choice.otherwise why did Warner play for NSW over DD n Smith play for Sussex over DC? n am not sure about Kiwis choosing to stay with thier state teams,another Kiwi admitted to considering playing for KKR over his country NZ:D

[Roshanrocks]

we have become villains... all countries hate us now :--D

[don_corleone840]

what a stupid article .Champions league is club competition so their is no point of being emotional about country or state.ipl teams pay more for players so they will be prefered .

[mastana]

Mark Richardson do you want a IPLollipop?

[saneindian]

What a stupid article. The non-Indian players are only trying to enhance their bid value during the next auction by showing up for their IPL teams. And wasn't McCullum ready to give us his international career for IPL? So obviously these players are not as "patriotic" as Richardson is portrayoing them to be. Sabko paisa maangta hai. Oh and if IIRC, when the final of the HRV cup (domestic t20 tournament of NZ ) was going on, the kiwi commentators kept referring to how the winner will go to Champions League. It was as if the whole purpose of the tournament was to decide the team to play the CL!! And Mr. Richardson was one of the esteemed commentators who kept talking about the CL t20 cup! And now suddenly he says "How stupid is this tournament"? Hypocricy much. Perhaps he is jealous of Simon Doull getting a lucrtaive deal for being one of the commentators.

[IKnowU]

I dont know how players can play for multiple teams in the first place? If they signed a contract with one particular team, then they should only play for that team. Why cant it work like all the other professional leagues like epl, la liga, nba etc.

[Gunner_Mania]

I dont know how players can play for multiple teams in the first place? If they signed a contract with one particular team, then they should only play for that team. Why cant it work like all the other professional leagues like epl, la liga, nba etc.

Because this is not a professional league? As for Mark Richardson, well the rules were known before the first edition of the tournament. So what the point in crying sour now?

[IKnowU]

Because this is not a professional league? As for Mark Richardson, well the rules were known before the first edition of the tournament. So what the point in crying sour now?

But how can counties/states/IPL teams allow players to be contracted to so many clubs and then sometimes whinge about the players not being available. If a player wants to join another club he should forfeit his current contract and go sign a new one with a new team. How hard is that to follow for these domestic teams?

[vamos_rafa]

we have become villains... all countries hate us now :--D

Could not agree with you more... :--D

[The Outsider]

Mark Richardson is spot on. Domestic teams should have the first choice on a player. Teams participating in the Champions League are not 'club' teams like the IPL sides. They are proper domestic teams and most players have benefitted and grown using the set up of those teams for years right from under 15 cricket to the top. The ironical thing is that despite these dubious rules and tactics the IPL teams are going to get their asses handed to them just like last year.

But how can counties/states/IPL teams allow players to be contracted to so many clubs and then sometimes whinge about the players not being available. If a player wants to join another club he should forfeit his current contract and go sign a new one with a new team. How hard is that to follow for these domestic teams?

These domestic teams are not clubs like the Mumbai Indians for football clubs. They are grassroots centers of cricket and are responsible for making these players what they are. They are not limited to T20. Ross Taylor cannot just forego playing FC and OD cricket for his domestic team because he has signed up for Royal Challengers.

[Zap_Brannigan]

But the IPL franchises bid insane amount of money on these players, spend in millions on the club so that they could play both IPL and champions league. Its in their contract right from the beginning. CSK and DD had to be compensated for the cancelled CL in 2008 because IPL teams were sold with CL in their plans as it would increase their revenue. If an international player wants to play for their team , then they should have taken a cut in their franchise salary and get paid only for IPL before they signed the contract. Besides, IPL teams is built on the 4 foreign + 7 domestic player formula. But the other teams play all round the year with 11 local players, even when their international players are not present.

[Lord]

Mark Richardson is spot on. Domestic teams should have the first choice on a player. Teams participating in the Champions League are not 'club' teams like the IPL sides. They are proper domestic teams and most players have benefitted and grown using the set up of those teams for years right from under 15 cricket to the top. The ironical thing is that despite these dubious rules and tactics the IPL teams are going to get their asses handed to them just like last year. These domestic teams are not clubs like the Mumbai Indians for football clubs. They are grassroots centers of cricket and are responsible for making these players what they are. They are not limited to T20. Ross Taylor cannot just forego playing FC and OD cricket for his domestic team because he has signed up for Royal Challengers.

if the player himself 'choses' money over such emotions,who are we to say anything?

[Gunner_Mania]

Zap - the way this can be solved is, if you sign for a franchise in IPL, you should stay with it, you shouldn't be allowed to play for any other clubs / teams in other domestic leagues. The IPL should be treated as a domestic league. You can't have somebody like Pollard who plays for Mumbai Indians, one of the English teams - can't remember if it is Sussex or Somerset and probably one of the Carribean teams as well. IPL shouldn't be reciving priority over other clubs in the Champions league. It just has got to be standardised. To give an example from Football's European Champions League, Sevilla defender Squillaci was due to play for them last week in a qualifying match for the Champions league, but had to be pulled out of the game just minutes before it started, because Arsenal expressed interested in him. The reason being once he had played for a club in Europe, even if it was only qualifying, and even if his team didnt qualify, he couldnt play for any other European club in the Champions League.

[Sachinism]

But the IPL franchises bid insane amount of money on these players, spend in millions on the club so that they could play both IPL and champions league. Its in their contract right from the beginning. CSK and DD had to be compensated for the cancelled CL in 2008 because IPL teams were sold with CL in their plans as it would increase their revenue. If an international player wants to play for their team , then they should have taken a cut in their franchise salary and get paid only for IPL before they signed the contract. Besides, IPL teams is built on the 4 foreign + 7 domestic player formula. But the other teams play all round the year with 11 local players, even when their international players are not present.

At the same time we can argue, the clubs spend time and money developing these players. It also has a big effect on their team mates who could do with the support of these players to give them a chance of winning some prize money.

[Zap_Brannigan]

Yes,both IPL and domestic clubs spend money on the players, so technically both should be get back the rewards. If players want to choose their domestic teams, then they should have taken a cut in their salary. IPL team is paying the clubs 200,000$ for the international players now. So it kinda restores some kinda balance now. Gunner, we cant have UEFA rules because IPL is not played throughout the year. Plus, it would mean a decrease in revenue for the players.

[Gunner_Mania]

Yes,both IPL and domestic clubs spend money on the players, so technically both should be get back the rewards. If players want to choose their domestic teams, then they should have taken a cut in their salary. IPL team is paying the clubs 200,000$ for the international players now. So it kinda restores some kinda balance now. Gunner, we cant have UEFA rules because IPL is not played throughout the year. Plus, it would mean a decrease in revenue for the players.

Why should IPL get priority over the other teams, because they have more money than the others?

[The Outsider]

But the IPL franchises bid insane amount of money on these players, spend in millions on the club so that they could play both IPL and champions league. Its in their contract right from the beginning. CSK and DD had to be compensated for the cancelled CL in 2008 because IPL teams were sold with CL in their plans as it would increase their revenue.

I don't think that's true for the first signees. Don't think Champions League was a possibility or at least a realistic notion by the time the first auctions happened.

Besides, IPL teams is built on the 4 foreign + 7 domestic player formula. But the other teams play all round the year with 11 local players, even when their international players are not present.

I don't see how that's relevant. IPL teams are not forced to play 4 foreign players. They can play all Indian players if they want. Domestic teams usually have a restriction of 1-2 foreign players though.

if the player himself 'choses' money over such emotions' date='who are we to say anything?[/quote'] From what I've read, players don't have a choice. IPL teams get the first bite.

Warriors chief Dave Emslie has said Jacques Kallis' contractual obligations with Royal Challengers Bangalore did not give his home team much of a chance to retain his services for the Champions League T20. Contrary to Bangalore's statements, in which they hoped their overseas signings would pick their IPL team over their home team, Emslie said Kallis' IPL contract gave Bangalore the first rights over him should his domestic first-class team - Warriors from South Africa - and his IPL team both qualify for the tournament. "Kallis' contract (with Bangalore) says if his IPL team gets into the CLT20 his team has the first option," Emslie said during a media interaction with Indian journalists. "For that we got $200,000. We would have wanted Kallis but the decision did not lay in our hands. We never had a choice."

http://www.cricinfo.com/t20champions2010/content/story/472536.html

[Zap_Brannigan]

Why should IPL get priority over the other teams' date=' because they have more money than the others?[/quote'] Not because that they have more money but they gave more money based on the possibility of playing in the CL too. IPL teams were sold for IPL + CL. The players signed a contract stating that they would play for their IPL teams if they qualify.

[Steyn]

One thing Mark got absolutely right that CL becomes Indian Champions league. Why three of IPL teams are participating where Australia have only two participant. Because of IPL is superior than Bigbash? But bigbash's teams are better than IPL's team. Add to this no Pakistani team(current t20 run'up) is included in the league. Kudos to Mark Richardson! Good to see in this days of $$ some people still calling a spade a spade.