asterix Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 What the **** can tendulkar do about it though ? :WTF: First thing he should do is to stop his Bhajji Love. Bhajji keeps on buttering him in media and Sachin falls for all those crap.. Ambani should kick out players like Zak & Bhajji from the team. I'm pretty sure the team will start doing well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hiten. Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 First thing he should do is to stop his Bhajji Love. Bhajji keeps on buttering him in media and Sachin falls for all those crap.. Ambani should kick out players like Zak & Bhajji from the team. I'm pretty sure the team will start doing well.. Yeah, a man who has played more cricket than the times you've wanked off picks his team based on the buttering in front of camera :giggle:. You people need to realize that Tendulkar can only do so much and has picked appropriate squad for MI but the players are not repaying his faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 What the **** can tendulkar do about it though ? :WTF: There were some mistakes still IMO .. for example, I thing Tiwary should have been sent instead of Rayudu ... I have always supported Tiwary since his IPL 2 venture because firstly he is a selfless player and secondly he does not waste any dots easily ... he will take out singles from nearly every ball and if the team needs he will hit a six even when he is nearing his 50 etc. .. he just plays for the team and does not waste ball which is something I like .. Rayudu had wasted a lot of balls which made Sachin to start playing risky shots and he got out .. maybe it might not be a huge problem in retrospection but it is just logical that Tiwary should have been preferred just by virtue of his IPL and domestic performance .. in the last match Sachin did not bowl McLaren when he was bowling well and that was a huge mistake .. Sachin is not a very good captain and there are ample decisions in each match to prove it .. there are loads of reasons I had given in IPL 2 and IPL 3 threads confirming the same too .. he is an awesome player but not a good captain by any stretch of imagination One more occasion today .. Malinga should have been kept for the last over and even a child would have known that but Sachin never kept him till the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hiten. Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 One more occasion today .. Malinga should have been kept for the last over and even a child would have known that but Sachin never kept him till the end Umm, had Malinga been pulled back for last over the game wouldn't have last this long. I don't understand what has gotten into you lads, is it too much T20 or the basic common sense missing ? I am not denying that Tendulkar is a bad captain but so far in this tournament nothing has worked for him and you simply cannot label him bad captain because he has carried the same team/squad that he took to the finals of IPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SachDan Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 First thing he should do is to stop his Bhajji Love. Bhajji keeps on buttering him in media and Sachin falls for all those crap.. Ambani should kick out players like Zak & Bhajji from the team. I'm pretty sure the team will start doing well.. Today Sach held back Harbhjan hoping other bowlers like Zak and Bravo won't concede that many and he's left with 15-20 runs to defend in the last over. Didn't happen that way..:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Umm, had Malinga been pulled back for last over the game wouldn't have last this long. I don't understand what has gotten into you lads, is it too much T20 or the basic common sense missing ? I am not denying that Tendulkar is a bad captain but so far in this tournament nothing has worked for him and you simply cannot label him bad captain because he has carried the same team/squad that he took to the finals of IPL. I told it that time during IPL too that it was due to the batting and being a bit lucky that they reached IPL finals .. they did NOT reach IPL finals due to Sachin's captaincy .. anyways you acknowledged that Sachin is a bad captain and that is all I wanted to say .. he is a great player but he is not a good captain thats it .. even Kumble is a far better captain than him to be frank .. not bashing Sachin but he is not a good captain overall Ask any captain what would he have done ... any captain would have retained their best bowler for the last over and that is basic common sense ... the Rayudu and McLaren points also prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch1234 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Duminy.. Why is he still in the team?.. Play that Western Australian wicket keeper (who used to get runout whenever the chances were given) instead of him and keep Rayudu off keeping.. A sepcialist keeper will maek a lot of difference. That guy is a wonderful limited over batsman also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hiten. Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I told it that time during IPL too that it was due to the batting and being a bit lucky that they reached IPL finals .. they did NOT reach IPL finals due to Sachin's captaincy .. anyways you acknowledged that Sachin is a bad captain and that is all I wanted to say .. he is a great player but he is not a good captain thats it .. even Kumble is a far better captain than him to be frank .. not bashing Sachin but he is not a good captain overall Ask any captain what would he have done ... any captain would have retained their best bowler for the last over and that is basic common sense ... the Rayudu and McLaren points also prove it Dude why is so hard for you to understand that had Zak and Bhajji bowled before Malinga, the game wouldn't have lasted till the last over. You're calling Sachin as a defensive captain but on the other hand asking him to cross his fingers and bowl Zaheer and bhajji ahead of his most reliable bowler who guarantees (at least more than Zak and Bhajji) to fetch him a wicket or miserly over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch1234 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 All the bowleres except Malinga were dishing out fulltosses.. Wha would Sachin do?..But brininging Ali Murtaza instead of Pajji in the 6th over was not a good move(in Powerplya overs).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 It's not about this match, Sachins love for Zak and Bhajji is known to everybody. Sachin was instrumental in getting them to :mi: Sachin's affection for Bhajji goes long back (even before he testified in favour of Bhajji during the 'Monkey Gate').. You will be stupid to put faith on players like Bhajji and Zak in limited overs matches as a captain.. I'm saying this now in the hope that Sachin should allow the :mi: management to dump both Zak and Bhajji at the next IPL bidding.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Dude why is so hard for you to understand that had Zak and Bhajji bowled before Malinga' date=' the game wouldn't have lasted till the last over. You're calling Sachin as a defensive captain but on the other hand asking him to cross his fingers and bowl Zaheer and bhajji ahead of his most reliable bowler who guarantees (at least more than Zak and Bhajji) to fetch him a wicket or miserly over.[/quote'] what benefit was there in bringing in Malinga anyways .. he gave away 11 or 12 runs in that over and Zak or Bhajji or even Pollard would not have given much more .... if it was a 3 or 4 run over with a couple of over then it might have made sense .. it is just logical to save your best bowler for the last ... match would never have finished in the 19th over even if Zak and Bhajji would have bowled those .. they would still have gone by the reqd. RR and at least 10 runs would have been left for the last over .. even if there were only 7-8 runs needed Malinga might have still got them a win .. it is just common sense to keep the best bowler for the last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hiten. Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Dude you're just going in circles now. You yourself saw that Malinga went for 10-12 runs, so what is the guarantee of him not conceding those 10-12 runs at the end of the innings ? Be consistent in what you're lamenting Tendulkar for his captaincy at least, if not what team you're gonna be rooting for next IPL :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Dude you're just going in circles now. You yourself saw that Malinga went for 10-12 runs' date=' so what is the guarantee of him not conceding those 10-12 runs at the end of the innings ? Be consistent in what you're lamenting Tendulkar for his captaincy at least, if not what team you're gonna be rooting for next IPL :winky:[/quote'] I am saying only about his captaincy and nothing else .. in the last over even if there are 10 runs the pressure on both the opposition as well as Malinga would have been higher and that is but logical .. so chances of a better over and a couple of wickets would have been a lot likelier .. that is why there is surely a difference .. just one question .. why do you think teams keep their best bowler for the last over .. I dont think it is just a coincidence .. there is pressure in the last over especially during chasing and a very good bowler makes a lot of difference. I will surely inform you about the team I will support next years but auctions to aane de .. all teams are disbanding after this CL T20 and there would be fresh auctions .. to abhi kaise bolun .. MI might become RR and DD might become BRC ... let me see the composition etc. first before finalizing :--D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 If you have 25 runs to defend in the last 2 overs, 99% of captains would have gone for their primary two experienced bowlers. Its not Sachin’s fault if Zak and Bhajji eff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 If you have 25 runs to defend in the last 2 overs, 99% of captains would have gone for their primary two experienced bowlers. Its not Sachin’s fault if Zak and Bhajji eff up. Their best bowler is Malinga and not Zak or Bhajji .. Zak or Bhajji have hardly ever done well in T20 .. Malinga is a T20 specialist and 99% of captains would have gone for their best bowler at least for the final over .. that is what I also said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Their best bowler is Malinga and not Zak or Bhajji .. Zak or Bhajji have hardly ever done well in T20 .. Malinga is a T20 specialist and 99% of captains would have gone for their best bowler at least for the final over .. that is what I also said Dude, captains make judgment calls. Sometimes, they pay off. Other times, they don’t. You can criticize Tendulkar if he’s setting obviously bad fields or bringing on a bowler who’s clearly a bad choice, but you cannot harangue him for choosing the bowlers he did man. Your confusing bad luck to bad captaincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hiten. Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Man I seriously don't know whether to laugh off or actually bother responding your claim that this would have 'surely' happened if Malinga bowled the last over. I am simply falling short of words and logic to explain you that MOST of the captains would've done what SRT did, i.e. bowl out their ace bowlers in these situations. Do you guys really think MSD was being shrewd in using Jogi as his last resort during the T20 finals in 2007 ? He bowled out RP, Sree, Bhajji before Jogi because he was looking for wickets and killing the game before he was forced to bowl Jogi. Luckily Jogi got a wicket somehow and helped India win, but it does not mean Jogi is a shrewd death bowler; it's just that Misbah was being more dumb than Jogi at that time :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 The best option for Sachin in the next season is to get rid of these two losers, Zak & Bhajji..Having them in a Limited overs team brings bad luck, most of the time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Cant remember when Bhajji took a wicket in T20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajiv Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Can someone echo that South Aus played better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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