vamos_rafa Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 His languid countenance is mostly misconstrued as arrogance. “I never pretend,†is how he reacts to ill-informed critics. Murali Kartik, long forgotten by the National selectors, continues to make waves, not just at home, but in fields far and away from the Karnail Singh Stadium, the ground that has been an integral part of his grooming as a cricketer of merit. Kartik has competed in 12 back-to-back domestic seasons, without a break, except once when he suffered a shoulder surgery. He has remained a wicket-taker and not the modern bowler who looks to bowl dot balls or be happy with an analysis of 10-1-60-0, which is considered decent in contemporary cricket. At 34, he is richly experienced, has served Railways and India with distinction, and justified his contracts with Lancashire, Middlesex and Somerset at various times. His recent success in Somerset has won him an extension for the next season too. A tally of 44 wickets in County championship division one has won Kartik rave reviews in England. Major role Kartik played a major role in Somerset finishing runner-up in division one in the just-concluded English season. He reflected, “I have enjoyed playing county cricket over the last six years. It keeps your competitive juices flowing. “This year the added enjoyment has been playing for a highly ambitious, competitive and skilful side. There have been no easy days. Honestly, every day has been something to play for.†It is strange that Kartik continues to excel in demanding conditions in England and yet does not get picked by the National selectors back home. Many former players rate him the best spinner in the country. “One of the funniest things is that these statements have come from the current lot of selectors when they have been sitting in TV studios. But they change once they become selectors. I had always been the third spinner with Anil bhai (Kumble) and Bhaj (Harbhajan Singh) and perfectly so. But if you say there is a better spinner in India apart from Bhaj I will stop playing.†Decrease in quality Kartik agrees the bowling standards have plummeted. “Batting in limited overs has improved over the last few years because of 20-20 cricket, better pitches and short boundaries worldwide. But the quality of fast bowlers and spinners has definitely gone down over the years in world cricket and spinners definitely in our country. I reckon our former greats and also spinners who couldn't play for India might be cringing when looking at us lot. We have lost the skills of spin bowling definitely.†Cricket, noted Kartik, would always remain intense for a bowler. “Your inefficiency is visible the whole day if you are having a shocker of a day. For a batsman the misery ends once he is out. In T20, the contest is one sided because the fans want sixes and fours. This has forced the kids learning the game to do things which make them stay in the game. Hence they lose the skills the former bowlers around the world had. Administrators have also always liked it to be a batsman's game.†Would he then be tempted to be born as a batsman? “If I was born in India I wouldn't want to be a cricketer. If I was reborn I want to play golf. At least, my life would be in my hands and not in hands of those with million agendas.†The last one's are tough words. I think he has been a tad unlucky as well. When the time was right for him to be making a cut in the international scene at that time Ganguly was the skipper. I,for one,have always felt that Ganguly never rated left arm spinners because of the way he used to pawn them him selves. And this is where I think Murali Kartik suffered. He was given a few chances here and there but never was given a full run.And the funniest was in 2007 when Austraila toured India for the one-dayers. Then, one day he was acting as a panelist for Neo Cricket and a few days later he was playing for India. It's been strange for him at times.
Sachinism Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Feel sorry for him, lashed out once and its been held against him forever. The massive ego of BCCI has let Indian cricket suffer just to keep him out. Pretty sure he's never going to get an opportunity now
Fontaine Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 If BCCI had any balls they would pick this guy in the squad. Maybe in the next England series.
thevortex Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Sad situation. Right now, he is a better spinner than Harbhajan as well, who is a pale shadow of what he once was.
ZodiaC Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I,for one,have always felt that Ganguly never rated left arm spinners because of the way he used to pawn them him selves. And this is where I think Murali Kartik suffered. He was given a few chances here and there but never was given a full run.And the funniest was in 2007 when Austraila toured India for the one-dayers. Then, one day he was acting as a panelist for Neo Cricket and a few days later he was playing for India. It's been strange for him at times. Good point vamos but still he played most matches under Dada IIRC. And Ironically he play for :kkr: too of all franchisees. And :haha: I remember him getting picked after being a panelist for Neo.
achilles Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 According to some logic known only to Dhoni and the selectors, Ravindra Jadeja is a better bowler (and to some extent a better bowling all-rounder) than Murali Karthik. So, that pretty much closes the discussion. Trying to fight Indian selectors is equivalent to expecting logic from Pakistan cricket administrators.
saneindian Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 According to some logic known only to Dhoni and the selectors, Ravindra Jadeja is a better bowler (and to some extent a better bowling all-rounder) than Murali Karthik. So, that pretty much closes the discussion. Trying to fight Indian selectors is equivalent to expecting logic from Pakistan cricket administrators. Kartik is not competing with Jadeja for a spot. Kartik's competition is with Ojha/Mishra, especially with Ojha and Ojha has done well in the chances given to him so far (though his fitness is a huge concern). Another thing that goes gainst Kartik is that he does not get picked for the Zonal side or neither for any of the challenger trophy teams to show the selectors what they are missing. I hope he gets chosen for the one of the challenger trophy teams this time.
achilles Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Kartik is not competing with Jadeja for a spot. Kartik's competition is with Ojha/Mishra, especially with Ojha and Ojha has done well in the chances given to him so far (though his fitness is a huge concern). Another thing that goes gainst Kartik is that he does not get picked for the Zonal side or neither for any of the challenger trophy teams to show the selectors what they are missing. I hope he gets chosen for the one of the challenger trophy teams this time. Jadeja is being hyped as the Next big All-rounder from our country. His bowling is okay, but his batting is horrendous. The man can't slog or run to save his life. Ojha can't make it to the XI due to some logic of the selectors and Dhoni, which is also beyond explanation, for he is atleast a better bowler than Jadeja, but is rarely given chances. If the competition is between Ojha and Karthik, we could give the benefit of doubt to the selectors in terms of age being a factor, although Karthik has been consistent in the English circuit, which is quite competitive as opposed to our domestic structure. Ignoring Karthik even for Challenger Trophy and Zonal teams, while giving chances to Jadeja and these days, Ashwin, is downright rubbish and goes on to show that there is more than meets the eye.
ravishingravi Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Well I said it before and say it again. His career was ruined by Ganguly and the selectors at the time. He is better than any of our spinners atm imo. Just not given enough opportunity.
ZodiaC Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Well I said it before and say it again. His career was ruined by Ganguly and the selectors at the time. He is better than any of our spinners atm imo. Just not given enough opportunity. Why didn't Dravid later and Dhoni now give chances to him? He still played most games under Gangs. Ganguly may not have rated him highly but to blame it all on Ganguly is really unfair.
Online Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Feel sorry for him' date=' [b']lashed out once and its been held against him forever. The massive ego of BCCI has let Indian cricket suffer just to keep him out. Pretty sure he's never going to get an opportunity now can you help jog my memory about what he lashed out against? also if dada doesn't like him, how come he plays for KKR?
ZodiaC Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 can you help jog my memory about what he lashed out against? also if dada doesn't like him, how come he plays for KKR? Exactly my thoughts. He was there since season one for KKR :hmmm: Was kinda obvious that him, aggie etc are dada's picks.
thongale Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 Spin standards gone down? Meh! may be in India. not in other countries. English have got Swann. Pakistanis got Ajmal. Lankans got Randiv. Utseya and Ray Price are also good. NZ has Vettori. If anything happening, it's spin bowling is reviving after the loss of big three (Murali, Warne and Kumble)
ZodiaC Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 Spin standards gone down? Meh! may be in India. not in other countries. English have got Swann. Pakistanis got Ajmal. Lankans got Randiv. Utseya and Ray Price are also good. NZ has Vettori. If anything happening' date=' it's spin bowling is reviving after the loss of big three (Murali, Warne and Kumble)[/quote'] Ajmal, Utseya :hysterical:
Ravi. Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 P.Ojha can become a good bowler if he works hard but most of our bowlers are lazy.
Crookbond Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 You’re still considered the best spinner in India now, but with the selectors continuing to ignore you, what keeps you going? Just the fact that you're still the best and the fact that people still say that, and you still want to play for your country. As long as I'm fit and I’m playing well and doing well – I've played 19 back-to-back seasons which means my body is doing fine. I can’t say if people have shut the door on my selection, but I haven't. I'm still going for it. http://www.wisdenindia.com/interview/good-bad-kartik/31637 He's still the best spinner in India. I think we should have a look at him once again. He bowled brilliantly in the Duleep Trophy SF.
Executioner Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 he is getting enuff money playing these PLs
Lord Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 http://www.wisdenindia.com/interview/good-bad-kartik/31637 He's still the best spinner in India. I think we should have a look at him once again. He bowled brilliantly in the Duleep Trophy SF. should hv done long back,but selectors have something against him.I remember him going bonkers n cursing selectors in Neo show.that made matters worse
Crookbond Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Whatever selectors have against him is irrelevant now. If he does well, pick him else drop him.
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