ZodiaC Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 He is under rated for sure. He is the best all rounders in world cricket at the moment without a tinge of doubt. Yes, what I like about him is the way he plays under pressure at this age, damn impressive.
India55 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Posted October 29, 2010 can any mod change the title..i mistakenly wrote over rated..it shoud be under rated..my bad! thanks for ur ryplies guys..i really felt i should open a thread about this boy..he is a very good player but doesn't get the recommendation he deserves.. again sorry for my mistake
girishk14 Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 credit must be given to those players, who play for hopeless teams, with at least 6 very average members in it......shakib certainly is one of them , he plays for a team with 10 average members, and yet manages to do the work of 11 men. others in my opinion in this category are, umar gul (does that batting n bowling work for all the other hopeless players) and matthews (has held the batting line up many times when the other FTBs are out n team is like 50/4 after 16 overs, and exceptional fielder) even raina is underrated, considering how he saved Ind from humiliation in SL in ODI series (after the 2-0 test loss) against the spin duo, when all the other batsmen failed, and his unselfish knocks for CSK and India, which made victories much easier.
Andy Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 credit must be given to those players, who play for hopeless teams, with at least 6 very average members in it......shakib certainly is one of them , he plays for a team with 10 average members, and yet manages to do the work of 11 men. others in my opinion in this category are, umar gul (does that batting n bowling work for all the other hopeless players) and matthews (has held the batting line up many times when the other FTBs are out n team is like 50/4 after 16 overs, and exceptional fielder) even raina is underrated, considering how he saved Ind from humiliation in SL in ODI series (after the 2-0 test loss) against the spin duo, when all the other batsmen failed, and his unselfish knocks for CSK and India, which made victories much easier. :hmmmm:
ZodiaC Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 credit must be given to those players, who play for hopeless teams, with at least 6 very average members in it......shakib certainly is one of them , he plays for a team with 10 average members, and yet manages to do the work of 11 men. others in my opinion in this category are, umar gul (does that batting n bowling work for all the other hopeless players) and matthews (has held the batting line up many times when the other FTBs are out n team is like 50/4 after 16 overs, and exceptional fielder) even raina is underrated, considering how he saved Ind from humiliation in SL in ODI series (after the 2-0 test loss) against the spin duo, when all the other batsmen failed, and his unselfish knocks for CSK and India, which made victories much easier. Umar gul is never expected to bat, it's just that he happened to bat well for that 1 inning. BD depend on Shakib with the bat and ball heavily - there's a big difference. And Pak has other players, but BD has none except him & tamim. He's a far better fielder than gul too. And what's that 2-0 test loss & humiliation stuff eh? :hmmmm:
Andy Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Umar gul is never expected to bat, it's just that he happened to bat well for that 1 inning. BD depend on Shakib with the bat and ball heavily - there's a big difference. And Pak has other players, but BD has none except him & tamim. He's a far better fielder than gul too. And what's that 2-0 test loss & humiliation stuff eh? :hmmmm: Lankan troll.:haha:
ZodiaC Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Lankan troll.:haha: Ohh :hysterical::hysterical:
girishk14 Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Ohh :hysterical::hysterical: Im not a troll, and i dont like the FTBs. Correction: 2 -1 test loss , when sehwag scored 200 in Galle. The ODI series after that would have been lost if not for raina. Thats what i meant! And Umar Gul, whenever i checked Pak matches scorecards, there were this huge list of single digits, followed by one quickfire 30/40/50 by umar gul....hez played a lot of good innings in aus n eng i think
ZodiaC Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Im not a troll' date=' and i dont like the FTBs.[/quote'] Ohh sorry, then you definitely must not be a SL fan :--D Correction: 2 -1 test loss , when sehwag scored 200 in Galle. The ODI series after that would have been lost if not for raina. Thats what i meant! Alrite And Umar Gul, whenever i checked Pak matches scorecards, there were this huge list of single digits, followed by one quickfire 30/40/50 by umar gul....hez played a lot of good innings in aus n eng i think Gul afaik has scored only one 50 and that is the one against England :hmmm: He's nothing but a tailender who comes in handy with the bat. Harbhajan has played under pressure knocks than gul. Nothing special.
cowboysfan Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Is Shakib Al Hasan the Most under rated player in the world at the moment? nobody is underrating him.teams playing bangladesh try to play around him if possible.
ensd2 Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 WC all rounder , better than Vettori in odi . But he is under rated due to bang terrible performance
girishk14 Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 Anyway, gul is still a very underrated bowler, he shoulders all the work with excellent spells when the others are busy tossing pies, shooting lankans, infighting and fixing matches. Ok he has only one fifty, but his scores are much better than any of his teammates- always stands out with his 20s and 30s, which are astronomical by paki batting standards
Tapioca Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 The only player in world cricket to score more than 200 runs and take over 10 wickets in a bilateral series. That too in a four match series where he was made captain against his will. The best all-rounder in the world by far. Jadeja and Yuseless Pathan aren't fit to tie the laces on his boot. Got your facts wrong
ludhianvi Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 The only player in world cricket to score more than 200 runs and take over 10 wickets in a bilateral series. That too in a four match series where he was made captain against his will. The best all-rounder in the world by far. Jadeja and Yuseless Pathan aren't fit to tie the laces on his boot. Got your facts wrong Ganguly did it in the "Friendship Series" in Toronto and just recently Watson also accomplished this feat in the 2009 series in India. There are a few more players as well to have done this. Going back to the OP, Sakib has been performing for a while and has been grabbing the headlines as well. He's even ranked #1 allrounder in the ICC rankings by a big margin. Seems to be rated fairly well IMO.
Zero_Unit Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 I think it is safe to say that he will most likely make the cut in any world Xl team. Very younge and performing like a pro. Over rated: no Undertared: YES!
ZodiaC Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 Going back to the OP, Sakib has been performing for a while and has been grabbing the headlines as well. He's even ranked #1 allrounder in the ICC rankings by a big margin. Seems to be rated fairly well IMO. Not getting the hype swann/watson/Ukmal etc are getting IMHO.
jf1gp_1 Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 Both Sakib and Tamim are fairly studied by BD opponents, they get enough respect from opponent players and fans so i dont think Shakib is under rated. As far as his standing in World cricket goes you have to remember Shakib is still young i dont think he is even 25. Yes he has done well , far more consistent than any BD player of past but there is a whole lot of test cricket he still needs to play (and perform) before he can be rated higher compared to what is he rated now
girishk14 Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 He is very underrated, but he isnt that consistent with the bat, and still has to prove his bowling against the best players of spin - Ind n Lanka
India55 Posted October 30, 2010 Author Posted October 30, 2010 Since shakib made his debut(2006).. in odi:qualification(1000 runs and 100 wickets)..but sak is the only player to achive this!..others either scored 1000 runs or 100 wickets...so i cut the 1000 runs...now see the stats..he is way ahead of every body..as like if he is on top of averest..others r just starting to walk.. in tests:if the qualification is 1000 runs and 100 wickets again then sak doesn't make it cos he took 75 wickets but only played 21 tests.. here is saks stats..and he isn't very far behind: :bow:
India55 Posted October 30, 2010 Author Posted October 30, 2010 Not getting the hype swann/watson/Ukmal etc are getting IMHO. exactly what i ment to say...thanks!
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