Seriously, how resilient are we?

[Guest Hiten.]

Bhajji was named MoM for scoring a 50 and a 100 :hysterical:

[punjabi_khota]

Bhajji was named MoM for scoring a 50 and a 100 :hysterical:

:omg:

[flamy]

Anybody who lived through the 90s era of Indian cricket that was mostly marred by one spineless capitulation after another will understand this feeling the best.

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: I am so glad I started watching from the new millennium. I don't get all the grief that you peepals bring up. :cantstop:

[flamy]

We = VVS

:hatsoff: Gult represent :isalute:

[dial_100]

Very strong unit. I think, this has been by far the best unit we ever had. Even though 1 or 2 players not performing or out of form, rest stand out and fill in the gaps. Unbelievable team efforts and VVS is unmatachable. He is virtually wiped out all the bad reputation he had because of his ODI role in the team. Fabulous memeber of our team. Very very happy to see Dravid, Sehwag scoring big as well. Its time for GG to score in the remaining two matches. Man I am off during SA series. I hope Srisanth and Ishant come out good and we will have one heck of a series coming our way. Let us now accept UDRS as is and move on.

[bihutoli]

Yup theres been a shift in mindset. These guys just don't like losing! And there's always somebody (read VVS) or the other that raises his hand when the chips are down. And its a set team, most players select themselves which is a great boost (ask padosis). Some players need to take a look at themselves though (Dhoni & Gambhir and Raina & Bhajji to some extent). I mean everybody is allowed to fail occasionally, but these guys have had a string of underperformances. And the support for Zak is one area I would rather not think about.

[Lurker]

Anybody who lived through the 90s era of Indian cricket that was mostly marred by one spineless capitulation after another will understand this feeling the best. The number of test matches that we have either managed to a)draw despite being in precarious situations or b) win despite massive obstacles, is simply staggering. Right from the Lords test of 2007, where the last wicket hung for dear life to eek out a draw, to this test, when most other teams would have simply thrown in their towel at 65/6, this Indian team emerging as one of the most rugged units out there. Three cheers to the mentally toughest team in international cricket!

Indian fans typically remind me of the Mike & Mechanics song - Every generation blame the one before. Since we are talking about 90s "capitulation" let us just say in 90s we never had a situation where India was reeling at 5/15 at home. I have never been big on stats, and I dont intend to start it anytime soon, but if you would compare Indian record at home in 90s vs 2000s I bet 90s would be very close, and possibly better, than 2000s. Heck there was a reason why Steve Waugh after leading Australia to win in every country called India "the final frontier". A rearguard action at one of the deadest track against possibly the weakest attack today is not resilient. Sure it was wonderful effort by Harbhajan and India's Man-Friday VVS but to suggest anything else is frankly ridiculous. By the way speaking of 90s one of the reasons Indian team "capitulated" was the attack it ran against. Forget Aus, SA, Pakistan etc, even for NZ this is their weakest attack. Their attack in 90s, including those who travelled India, included Chris Cairns, Danny Morrison and the ebullient Dion Nash who I thought would rank alongside Fanie De Viliers and Hansie Cronje as the bowler who perhaps troubled Tendulkar most, and this is 90s with SRT at his peak. To compare this with an attack of Martin, Patel, Williamson and a out of form Vettori is ridiculous. It may have been a different story if the wicket had a bit more juice or if Cairns, or Morrison were playing say. Great effort by Harbhajan, VVS and Martin but lets not overstate anything here. xxx

[Shakthi]

2001 test series with Aus and 2002 Natwest Final completely changed Indian team and made them strong.

[King Tendulkar]

2001 test series with Aus and 2002 Natwest Final completely changed Indian team and made them strong.

So Kaif changed indian cricket history for ever. He is a legend after all!

[ZodiaC]

Indian fans typically remind me of the Mike & Mechanics song - Every generation blame the one before. Since we are talking about 90s "capitulation" let us just say in 90s we never had a situation where India was reeling at 5/15 at home. I have never been big on stats, and I dont intend to start it anytime soon, but if you would compare Indian record at home in 90s vs 2000s I bet 90s would be very close, and possibly better, than 2000s. Heck there was a reason why Steve Waugh after leading Australia to win in every country called India "the final frontier". A rearguard action at one of the deadest track against possibly the weakest attack today is not resilient. Sure it was wonderful effort by Harbhajan and India's Man-Friday VVS but to suggest anything else is frankly ridiculous. By the way speaking of 90s one of the reasons Indian team "capitulated" was the attack it ran against. Forget Aus, SA, Pakistan etc, even for NZ this is their weakest attack. Their attack in 90s, including those who travelled India, included Chris Cairns, Danny Morrison and the ebullient Dion Nash who I thought would rank alongside Fanie De Viliers and Hansie Cronje as the bowler who perhaps troubled Tendulkar most, and this is 90s with SRT at his peak. To compare this with an attack of Martin, Patel, Williamson and a out of form Vettori is ridiculous. It may have been a different story if the wicket had a bit more juice or if Cairns, or Morrison were playing say. Great effort by Harbhajan, VVS and Martin but lets not overstate anything here. xxx

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[Ram]

First of all, Howdy Lurks! Looooong time no c! :--D

Indian fans typically remind me of the Mike & Mechanics song - Every generation blame the one before.

Secondly, I am the 90s generation Lurks. 90s was my generation. So this aint me blaming some random team in the 30s.. This is me doing a direct compare b/w two successive teams that I grew up watching. So you certainly cannot accuse me of being partisan there.

Since we are talking about 90s "capitulation" let us just say in 90s we never had a situation where India was reeling at 5/15 at home. I have never been big on stats' date=' and I dont intend to start it anytime soon, but if you would compare Indian record at home in 90s vs 2000s I bet 90s would be very close, and possibly better, than 2000s. Heck there was a reason why Steve Waugh after leading Australia to win in every country called India "the final frontier". [/quote'] So how resilient you’re (there, I used that word again..:winky) is solely based on your home record alone? How convenient was it for you to simply stay totally clear of our away record? And it embarrasses me to even say this, but did you know how many test matches we won abroad in the 90s? Take an educated guess, what do you think the number would be? 10? 7? 5 maybe? No, the answer is ONE, yes a solitary win abroad, in the 10 years put together. And EVEN that solo success was against Zimbabwe.

A rearguard action at one of the deadest track against possibly the weakest attack today is not resilient. Sure it was wonderful effort by Harbhajan and India's Man-Friday VVS but to suggest anything else is frankly ridiculous. By the way speaking of 90s one of the reasons Indian team "capitulated" was the attack it ran against. Forget Aus, SA, Pakistan etc, even for NZ this is their weakest attack. Their attack in 90s, including those who travelled India, included Chris Cairns, Danny Morrison and the ebullient Dion Nash who I thought would rank alongside Fanie De Viliers and Hansie Cronje as the bowler who perhaps troubled Tendulkar most, and this is 90s with SRT at his peak. To compare this with an attack of Martin, Patel, Williamson and a out of form Vettori is ridiculous. It may have been a different story if the wicket had a bit more juice or if Cairns, or Morrison were playing say.

Nobody said this Indian team was a resilient team solely on the back of their performance in this match alone. Of course you’re right – this was a dead pitch, the bowling wasn’t particularly threatening. But, I doubt if ANY team has recovered from a disastrous 65/6 to bat out an entire final day to save a test. Plus, the story of this current Indian team itself has been a tale of one fightback after another. I can list at least half a dozen matches that we should have never won or saved in the last two years alone, but managed to do so. But that would be missing the point. This isn’t a discussion of stats/numbers/lists. Its about the underlying theme of this team and that is quite clearly, one of courage and steeliness. And we havent always been like that. I don’t think even you can deny that.

[Shakthi]

So Kaif changed indian cricket history for ever. He is a legend after all!

I wouldnt take one player,s name its overall achievement of the team

[vaibhav_delhi]

The 90s team sucked balls as compared to current india whether it be opners, wk keeper-batsman, captain, clutch batsmen like laxman, or bowlers(aprt frm kumble n srinath. )

[King Tendulkar]

I wouldnt take one player' date='s name its overall achievement of the team[/quote'] ok

[thevortex]

Would say there are two ways of looking at it. You could say we did a great job to wriggle out or you could say we played poorly to let one of the modern minnows get a glimpse of actual victory. Both would be true - depends only on which part of it you want to highlight. If I were a coach, I would talk only about the latter. I am an intense cricket fan - so I would still talk about the latter. Our bowling is not the most effective one in the world - this is not rocket science. What are we going to do about it - given that world over there is a glut of spinners!