Predict India's highest run scorer in Cape Town

[zen]

Dravid is still completely 'pressure-less'..must be a wonderful feeling :haha:

or may be he is feeling even more pressured than Tendulkar because very few have voted for him :giggle: PS it's zero votes for Dravid so far

[Anakin]

If playing with a worse team than Ponting gives pressure then do you mean all the other batsmen in team Ind like Dravid, VVS, Sehwag and Ganguly, played under different kind of pressure or count for nothing! :hysterical: .... I guess Kumble and Srinath count for nothing too I won't even bother to classify you and recommend what you should do :--D

Again lost as usual and I am more convinced about your age, at least intellectual age. So I am not gonna bother respond to you anymore, please continue your kiddy posts :two_thumbs_up:

[Anakin]

Unacceptable by whom? By the public? How much of an impact does the public view have on the career of a player - the actual people making decisions on their careers are the selectors. And selectors are more likely to drop Laxman after 10 failures than Tendulkar. So, even in that respect the pressure on Laxman to perform is greater because his career has a shorter rope of failure than Tendulkar. However, I do agree that pressure is subjective. But, I would not hesitate to say that Laxman is a better player than Tendulkar in seemingly lost causes, shepherding the tail, and as a finisher.

Most #5 and lower batsmen actually are better than most top order batsmen in playing with the tail and as finishers. And yes, the public sentiment shouldn't have too much impact on any player, if anything, the good and great players reply back through their game. Since the definition of pressure is very subjective, all the attempts by arm-chair experts to quantify it and judge players by that are quite futile at best. Although, I suppose that has to be part of being a fan.

[zen]

Again lost as usual and I am more convinced about your age' date=' at least intellectual age. So I am not gonna bother respond to you anymore, please continue your kiddy posts :two_thumbs_up:[/quote'] whatever :giggle: It's not like I would be missing your replies :hysterical:

[zen]

Most #5 and lower batsmen actually are better than most top order batsmen in playing with the tail and as finishers. And yes, the public sentiment shouldn't have too much impact on any player, if anything, the good and great players reply back through their game. Since the definition of pressure is very subjective, all the attempts by arm-chair experts to quantify it and judge players by that are quite futile at best. Although, I suppose that has to be part of being a fan.

The pressure situation during a match is not subjective, but since SRT can't compete favorably with the likes of VVS on this front, the comedy brigade resorts to bringing in subjective issues to show that pressure is subjective :winky: Your dumb claims will mostly be subscribed by you know whom :giggle:

[Anakin]

The pressure situation during a match is not subjective, but since SRT can't compete favorably with the likes of VVS on this front, the comedy brigade resorts to bringing in subjective issues to show that pressure is subjective :winky: Your dumb claims will mostly be subscribed by you know whom :giggle:

Don't mind about the comedy brigade, you alone supply more comedy than you realize.

[zen]

Don't mind about the comedy brigade' date=' you alone supply more comedy than you realize.[/quote'] Is that another of your lies? :P

[Anakin]

Is that another of your lies? :P

Thanks for proving my point, you are really lost :hysterical::hysterical:

[zen]

Thanks for proving my point' date=' you are really lost :hysterical::hysterical:[/quote'] Ah ha, so now you think could make a point .... what else? :hysterical:

[Anakin]

Ah ha' date=' so now you think could make a point .... what else? :hysterical:[/quote'] Please continue :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[zen]

Please continue :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

to laugh at you? :hysterical:

[The Outsider]

Public view finds its way to the selectors and management thru media. in this day and age they cant chose to live in their own little world. And as far as the match itself is concerned if you go to the stadium you will find the enormous difference in the reactions when Baasu starts batting. The stadium kinda empties once he gets out. If thats not pressure I dont know what is pressure.

Are you saying Tendulkar is more likely to be dropped than Laxman after similar number of failures? Or that the pressure from public exceeds the pressure of playing for your career? And, crowd support is invariably an advantage for a player and team, unless it works in the opposite way for Tendulkar.

[Guest BossBhai]

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[The Outsider]

^ Never said anyone is immune to public pressure - simply that the pressure of public is less, perhaps much less, than the pressure of playing for your place in the side. Specially when the concerned player has been dropped for a test match diggaj like Yuseless.

[Roshanrocks]

whats the prize for the winners? :hmmm:

[goose]

I don't get it - you needed a poll to find out that the greatest public expectations for run scoring is from arguably the greatest batsman of the last 20 years? What this has got to do with the pressure created during match situations, I don't know.

The question is what is a pressure match situation? For some reason, people think 150-5 implies more pressure than 25-2, when one could in fact argue that at 150-5 there is little more left to lose i.e. pressure off. Look, there are obviously things Laxman does better than Tendulkar. 'Batting under pressure', however, is not the definition I would use and just plays right into the hands of 'experts' who love to hate Tendulkar.

[The Outsider]

The question is what is a pressure match situation? For some reason' date=' people think 150-5 implies more pressure than 25-2, when one could in fact argue that at 150-5 there is little more left to lose i.e. pressure off. Look, there are obviously things Laxman does better than Tendulkar. 'Batting under pressure', however, is not the definition I would use and just plays right into the hands of 'experts' who love to hate Tendulkar.[/quote'] Yeah, it's obviously a subjective call and there can't be any formula to measure pressure. I would have preferred a clearer description in that thread comparing Laxman and Tendulkar under 'pressure'. For example, I feel Laxman does better than Tendulkar in seemingly lost causes, batting with the tail, and as a finisher. Though in tests, again the definition of a finisher is not as clear as in ODIs.

[akshayxyz]

Yeah' date=' it's obviously a subjective call and there can't be any formula to measure pressure. I would have preferred a clearer description in that thread comparing Laxman and Tendulkar under 'pressure'. [b']For example, I feel Laxman does better than Tendulkar in seemingly lost causes, batting with the tail, and as a finisher. Though in tests, again the definition of a finisher is not as clear as in ODIs.

(I understand you just cited an example) But, that is where the whole problem lies. No doubt Laxman has delivered numerous times when it mattered. But it does not call for comparison, no reason to drag Sachin into this, as by simple probability since Laxman bats lower in order ( than Sachin), he is more likely to land in such situations and hence more likely to end up with more number of such "winning with tail" knocks. So - the poll - Laxman handles pressure situation better than Sachin - was uncalled for and a very successful troll post at best.

[The Outsider]

^ This is not the first or last time on cricket forums that certain aspects of players are compared. Saying that certain aspects of Laxman's batting are better than Tendulkar's would be seen as slight on Tendulkar, only by the most one eyed fanatics of Tendulkar, who cannot stand the thought of any aspect of his cricket as being inferior to someone else.

[goose]

(I understand you just cited an example) But, that is where the whole problem lies. No doubt Laxman has delivered numerous times when it mattered. But it does not call for comparison, no reason to drag Sachin into this, as by simple probability since Laxman bats lower in order ( than Sachin), he is more likely to land in such situations and hence more likely to end up with more number of such "winning with tail" knocks. So - the poll - Laxman handles pressure situation better than Sachin - was uncalled for and a very successful troll post at best.

Laxman is great at salvaging lost causes. I guess for Laxman to find himself in a lost cause (in the minds of your typical spectator), Tendulkar is likely to have failed and thus adds to a perception that Laxman handles pressure better than Tendulkar. As an aside, how often do both score heavily in the same innings? Only time that comes to mind immediately is Sydney 2003 when India topped 700.