Sachin=GOD Posted April 7, 2011 Author Posted April 7, 2011 NEW DELHI: As the government opened a channel of communication with him, Anna Hazare on Thursday rejected its reported offer of an informal committee of civil society activists and government representatives to draft an effective Lokpal Bill. After Union minister Kapil Sibal met with two activists Swami Agnivesh and Arvind Kejriwal this morning to find a way out and they reported to him on the talks, the 72-year-old Gandhian said "we will continue the fast till our demands are met". Kejriwal told the protesters at the fast site at Jantar Mantar that Sibal agreed with their demand for a 50:50 representation for civil society activists and government representatives on a joint committee for drafting the bill. But, he said, Sibal had told them that it would not be constituted through a notification but would be an informal committee. The assembled gathering rejected this offer as also the formula that senior minister Pranab Mukherjee would be its chairman. "Anna Hazare should be the chairman" demanded the gathering. The two activists also told Sibal that they cannot wait till May 13 when the current assembly elections would end for beginning work on drafting the bill. "We want work to start just now," he said as the crowd roared in approval. He said Swami Agnivesh told the minister that the revised bill should be ready when the monsoon of Parliament commences. After listening to Kejriwal and the crowd's demand, Hazare got up to make a brief statement saying "I will continue the fast till all our demands are met". Agnivesh and Kejriwal would be meeting Sibal later in the day for another round of talks. Sibal, who met the activists at his residence, said the broad parametres of solving the issue has been agreed upon. "We have started a channel of communication. We met last evening. We met today also. The talks have been constructive...The formalities are yet to be agreed upon. We are meeting again," Sibal told reporters after the meeting. But he did not elaborate on what the formula is saying the attempt is that all are together. "We want to deal with corruption. We want to get rid of corruption. We want the civil society to participate. We have no problem with that," he said appealing to Hazare to call off the hunger strike. "The objective of the government and civil society is to sit together and to deal with the issue of corruption effectively through an appropriate legislation," he said. Agnivesh said he will inform Hazare about the outcome of the talks which he described as "positive". "We will inform Hazare about the talks. The final decision will be his," he said. Before the second round of talks with Sibal, Kejriwal said they will convey their stand to him which included the immediate constitution or setting up of the committee. "In the first round of talks, Sibal had told us that the government was ready to constitute a joint committee with five members each from the civil society and the government. This we accepted," he said. Kejriwal, who along with Swami Agnivesh is negotiating with the government, said they then suggested to the minister to notify the formation of the committee which the minister rejected. "Sibal told us it won't be possible and that he will announce to the media about the formation of the committee but there will be no formal notification. Where is the guarantee when the minister only announces the formation of the committee and there is no formal notification. They are trying to make a fool of us," he said. Kejriwal also said that Hazare was of the view that a retired judge should be the Chairman of the committee as the government suggested that Pranab Mukerjee head the panel. However, Hazare's supporters have suggested that the Gandhian head the committee. Link
King Tendulkar Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 And where is the great rahul gandhi??? Supposed to be this amazing new young guy who wants best for country. Gone quiet now a real movement has arrived to take on the real problemn in India. Does want to upset his corrupt colleages. Bofors daddy?
Sachin=GOD Posted April 7, 2011 Author Posted April 7, 2011 ^Politicians have been booed out of the protest site by the public - yesterday Umad Bharti and OP Choutala went but the public did'nt allow them to go near the dais and booed them away. So Rahul Baba is not going anywhere near all this. Also, he never ever has an opinion on anything significant happening in the country...............but wants to be the Prime Minister :facepalm:
ganeshran Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Go Anna Go.. We are with you :cheer: Government will have blood on its hands if something happens to Hazare because of the hunger strike
Show_stopper Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 The guy is out of his brains. His suggestions for the Jan Lokpal Bill are extremely impractical. Its a sad thing in our country any Tom, Dick and Harry wearing a Gandhi-topi is a crusader against corruption and people take his word as gospel. I hope he does fast his way to heaven. Would be a fitting end to an ignorant soul. Lokpal Bill has been in the pipeline for 40 years and thats wear it will remain.
Show_stopper Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 The Government's version of the Lokpal bill is a joke. Anna Hazare's campaign is gaining momentum by the hour and I hope it doesn't fizzle out till a conclusion is reached. Lots of ordinary people, mainly students are being a part of it. Gladly they have not allowed the opposition to hijack this campaign .... Uma Bharati & Chautala were driven off by the protesters. Agreed the Govt's version is a very WEAK. But a joke? I don't think so. OTOH, the version Anna Hazare is campaigning for...a joke if ever there was one:haha:. The guy will probably go to grave without even realizing it.
nikred Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I couldnt find telegu trans :beee: illiterate northie :yousuck: its telugu not telegu.
Aaku Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 illiterate northie :yousuck: its telugu not telegu. stop attacking me teluguz :mad:
Sir john Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 stop attacking me teluguz :mad: aana kaal jantar mantar :nice:
Aaku Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 If bill is not passed till apr 12th.. Jail Bharo Andolan to start ! Supporters would take to the streets and voluntary arrests just like what they did at the time of fighting for freedom of the country !!
vaibhav_delhi Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 why the hell are politicians so stubborn when the demands of civil society are so reasonable?? today, anupam kher , baba ramdev have come to join anna at janter mantar, Kiran bedi also rejoined after being unwell for a couple of days!! good stuff.
ravishingravi Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 This is just wonderful. Now the movement is beginning to snowball. Just feel great to see so many youngsters here
beetle Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Arvind Kejriwal should take the Chairmanship. I heard Anna said no. agree.....they shouldn't let Agneevesh (with his maoist and political connections) and Medha Patkar in the power circle .These two and their kinds have their own agendas which may not be the best for the nation.
Rajiv Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Vow, BTW, - b4 our new India gets excited over this, the people need to change ( its the need which roller balls corruption ), you can't just pick certain individuals and expect the whole country to just fix itself. A Country like India cannot run w/o corruption, this seems to be nice eye-candy, sincere but this might be a small patch to fix and not the system
Sir john Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 anna :cheer: i am receiving calls and sms daily to join this campaign.
ravishingravi Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Vow' date=' BTW, - b4 our new India gets excited over this, the people need to change ( its the need which roller balls corruption ), you can't just pick certain individuals and expect the whole country to just fix itself. A Country like India cannot run w/o corruption, this seems to be nice eye-candy, sincere but this might be a small patch to fix and not the system[/quote'] boond boond se hi to saagar bharta hai Rajiv bhai
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