ganeshran Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 So Asim, you are saying Osama was never in that Abottabad mansion and USA is lying and while the world is poking fun at ISI/Pakistan army complicity/incompetence, Pakistan is helplessly becoming a victim to this hoax perpetrated by the US? Do you think if US was making it all up, the Pak army would have just stepped back and allowed them to make it look bad before the world?
div Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 It was Americans themselves said that there is no WMD in Iraq and pakis believe it
Asim Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 So Asim, you are saying Osama was never in that Abottabad mansion and USA is lying and while the world is poking fun at ISI/Pakistan army complicity/incompetence, Pakistan is helplessly becoming a victim to this hoax perpetrated by the US? Do you think if US was making it all up, the Pak army would have just stepped back and allowed them to make it look bad before the world? NO, never said, I believe he was there, he has been killed but right now its not about Osama only, infect I damn care about Osama but I was talking on the whole; cant take each and every word by US as something sacred or sorry to say but like the way you people believe with closed eyes on each single word and step taken by US... This topic could be a never ending and too complex to discuss but look I simply can never even imagine supporting terrorism activities of Al-Qaida but see, what they did wrong was killing innocent people, right? and now what about war on terror have taken 100 times more innocent lives than even taken by Al-Quaida? Oh yeah we are making this world a safe place no matter it require to kill few million innocent people, apparently world will be a safer place right… For you guys 1 innocent American life or 1 Indian life might be equal to 1000 innocent Pakistani or innocent Muslim lives but for me 1 American, 1 Indian and 1 Pakistani they are all EQUAL, don’t want to take any emotional sympathy and neither I expect from you guys but when each day few mothers with their innocent children of ages under 10 are killed in drone attacks as "suspected terrorists", whom should I or they blame? or how on earth we would support it? Another important and strange fact that you guys never stop even to blame Pakistani public why they are opposing this (so called) war on terror, why they don’t let it happily continue... Here is one little reason: Just imagine for a sec and give me honest reply. Me and my 4 friends working in Islamabad, in day time when we move out for lunch or in evening off time, do you really think we 5 would love to get blown away and killed in some blast? Do you really think we would love to lose our family members this way? Yes we literally are in this situation each day and exactly same thing literally happens each day around us mainly because of "war on terror" and I know you wont believe because its a Pakistani version and not said by someone in US and for you guys its too easy to say "what Pakistan did in past is backfiring now" but this war on terror is ONLY manufacturing more and more terrorism, specially for Pakistani soil and Pakistani people.
Jayam Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 NO, never said, I believe he was there, he has been killed but right now its not about Osama only, infect I damn care about Osama but I was talking on the whole; cant take each and every word by US as something sacred or sorry to say but like the way you people believe with closed eyes on each single word and step taken by US... This topic could be a never ending and too complex to discuss but look I simply can never even imagine supporting terrorism activities of Al-Qaida but see, what they did wrong was killing innocent people, right? and now what about war on terror have taken 100 times more innocent lives than even taken by Al-Quaida? Oh yeah we are making this world a safe place no matter it require to kill few million innocent people, apparently world will be a safer place right… For you guys 1 innocent American life or 1 Indian life might be equal to 1000 innocent Pakistani or innocent Muslim lives but for me 1 American, 1 Indian and 1 Pakistani they are all EQUAL, don’t want to take any emotional sympathy and neither I expect from you guys but when each day few mothers with their innocent children of ages under 10 are killed in drone attacks as "suspected terrorists", whom should I or they blame? or how on earth we would support it? Another important and strange fact that you guys never stop even to blame Pakistani public why they are opposing this (so called) war on terror, why they don’t let it happily continue... Here is one little reason: Just imagine for a sec and give me honest reply. Me and my 4 friends working in Islamabad, in day time when we move out for lunch or in evening off time, do you really think we 5 would love to get blown away and killed in some blast? Do you really think we would love to lose our family members this way? Yes we literally are in this situation each day and exactly same thing literally happens each day around us mainly because of "war on terror" and I know you wont believe because its a Pakistani version and not said by someone in US and for you guys its too easy to say "what Pakistan did in past is backfiring now" but this war on terror is ONLY manufacturing more and more terrorism, specially for Pakistani soil and Pakistani people. And what do you want America to do? Stop Drone attacks. They show thousands of evidence that drone attacks weakened Taliban and Alqaeda. I am sure you will show millions of evidence that innocent people died on these attacks but because of War on terror America was able to kill OBL on your own country which ISI and your military unable to or unwilling to do. I am not saying that drone attacks are right but you need to understand that America gave billions of money to pakistan in order to achieve their interests. If you have shut your door to millitants USA would not have came to your country first. You raised them to infitrate India but guess what happened atlast. Bomb blasts, thousands of innocents dead etc...but you are still iving on denial.
Stuge Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 and all of other take pride in what USA do :giggle: I don't :P
yoda Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 NO, never said, I believe he was there, he has been killed but right now its not about Osama only, infect I damn care about Osama but I was talking on the whole; cant take each and every word by US as something sacred or sorry to say but like the way you people believe with closed eyes on each single word and step taken by US... No one believes anything with closed eyes as shown in the case of Iraq WMD. Where there is evidence of wrong doing, it is discussed rationally. This topic could be a never ending and too complex to discuss but look I simply can never even imagine supporting terrorism activities of Al-Qaida but see, what they did wrong was killing innocent people, right? and now what about war on terror have taken 100 times more innocent lives than even taken by Al-Quaida? Oh yeah we are making this world a safe place no matter it require to kill few million innocent people, apparently world will be a safer place right… So when terrorists blow up buildings, have trained with the help of a country called Afghanistan and that regime will not voluntarily give up those terrorist leaders and shutdown training camps, what is the US supposed to do? Twiddle thumbs? Now after routing those terrorists out of Afghanistan, when they go the Pak-Afg border, what is the US supposed to do? Allow them to regroup and enjoy a cushy resurgence so that more US buildings can be blown up? For you guys 1 innocent American life or 1 Indian life might be equal to 1000 innocent Pakistani or innocent Muslim lives but for me 1 American, 1 Indian and 1 Pakistani they are all EQUAL, don’t want to take any emotional sympathy and neither I expect from you guys but when each day few mothers with their innocent children of ages under 10 are killed in drone attacks as "suspected terrorists", whom should I or they blame? or how on earth we would support it? We are not talking just drone attacks here. Since your govt can't keep terrorists under check, a foreign country like the US needs to do it on your behalf. Another important and strange fact that you guys never stop even to blame Pakistani public why they are opposing this (so called) war on terror, why they don’t let it happily continue... Here is one little reason: Just imagine for a sec and give me honest reply. Me and my 4 friends working in Islamabad, in day time when we move out for lunch or in evening off time, do you really think we 5 would love to get blown away and killed in some blast? Do you really think we would love to lose our family members this way? Yes we literally are in this situation each day and exactly same thing literally happens each day around us mainly because of "war on terror" and I know you wont believe because its a Pakistani version and not said by someone in US and for you guys its too easy to say "what Pakistan did in past is backfiring now" but this war on terror is ONLY manufacturing more and more terrorism, specially for Pakistani soil and Pakistani people. If this war on terror is so bad for Pakistan, why don't you guys stop supporting the US? Guess it is tough to turn down free billions. The honest truth is that Pak is infested with terrorists because: a) Your country supports and has grown it's own terror outfits in the form of LeT and co. b) Your country supports and has grown it's ties with AQ, or else no way in hell a guy like Osama finds a safe haven there for 5 years The war on terror has just exposed the true nature of Pakistan as a terrorist infested state.
Dhruv200 Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 According to Pakistan Osama was living in Mumbai Abbotabad is small city next to Nariman Point its all lahori logic.
Dhruv200 Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 No one believes anything with closed eyes as shown in the case of Iraq WMD. Where there is evidence of wrong doing, it is discussed rationally. So when terrorists blow up buildings, have trained with the help of a country called Afghanistan and that regime will not voluntarily give up those terrorist leaders and shutdown training camps, what is the US supposed to do? Twiddle thumbs? Now after routing those terrorists out of Afghanistan, when they go the Pak-Afg border, what is the US supposed to do? Allow them to regroup and enjoy a cushy resurgence so that more US buildings can be blown up? We are not talking just drone attacks here. Since your govt can't keep terrorists under check, a foreign country like the US needs to do it on your behalf. If this war on terror is so bad for Pakistan, why don't you guys stop supporting the US? Guess it is tough to turn down free billions. The honest truth is that Pak is infested with terrorists because: a) Your country supports and has grown it's own terror outfits in the form of LeT and co. b) Your country supports and has grown it's ties with AQ, or else no way in hell a guy like Osama finds a safe haven there for 5 years The war on terror has just exposed the true nature of Pakistan as a terrorist infested state. Pakistan will never stop exporting terrorism this has been proven for many years atleast America are clipping their wings unlike other countries who dont bring pressure on them.
Asim Posted May 19, 2011 Author Posted May 19, 2011 Another man in India's most wanted list for Pak found in Mumbai NEW DELHI: In yet another major embarrassment for the government, another "fugitive" named in India's most wanted list handed over to Pakistan has been found in a jail in Mumbai, just days after the first such case came to light. Feroz Abdul Khan, alias Hamza, 51, an accused in 1993 Mumbai blast case, was arrested from a village in Navi Mumbai February last year and was handed over to CBI for further investigation. CBI had issued an Interpol Red Corner Notice against Khan in 1994 but the notice was not withdrawn even after the agency has got his custody. "CBI has conveyed to the home ministry that the lapse was on the agency's part. When CBI forwarded the list to MHA, they forgot to delete the name of this person," a home ministry spokesperson said. Khan is alleged to have facilitated transport and distribution of arms and ammunitions during the blast and subsequently. Mumbai police had alleged that following Dawood Ibrahim's instructions, Khan arranged for landing of arms allegedly used in the blast. "We are examining the matter and strict action will be initiated against erring officials," CBI spokesperson Dharini Mishra said. Earlier, Wazhur Kamar Khan, whose name had also figured in India's most wanted list, was traced in Mumbai, in the first case of the goof-up. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Another-man-in-Indias-most-wanted-list-for-Pak-found-in-Mumbai/articleshow/8446664.cms -------------------------------------------- And countdown continues :cantstop:
ravishingravi Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Dont get your hopes too high Asim. Our administration is less screwed up than the terrorism situation in Pakistan. Although, instances like these do re assert that we were one nation at some point. Just absolute debacle at national level.
Stuge Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Feck you Congress !! Go to hell now .. Enough is Enough !!
saneindian Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Chidambram is proving to be a tough competitor to Shivraj patil as home minister when it comes to ineptitude.
asterix Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I won't be surprised if UPA blames NDA for this..I can visualise a bombastic Manish Tiway (Cong Spokesperson) blaming everything on BJP..
Asim Posted May 26, 2011 Author Posted May 26, 2011 was reading about Hafiz Saeed in wikipedia, below the article there is a link to 50 people of these list, just opened it but WTH is that??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%27s_50_Most_Wanted_Fugitives_in_Pakistan
yoda Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 ^^^ See this difference between two versions: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=India%27s_50_Most_Wanted_Fugitives_in_Pakistan&diff=430860878&oldid=428862402 One on the left is the original list (May 12), one of the right is the latest edited one (May 25).
ganeshran Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Undid the errors. Next time will put a warning on the user's page.
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