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asterix Proficient

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One thing is for sure - Vijay Sharma can give Ram and 'Yam a run for their money in writing looooong posts to say things which others can say in 2-3 lines :D
Just trying to seek attention.. and in the process effing hijacking the topic.. :giggle:
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NareshK Newbie

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Nothing wrong in having your opinion...no opinion is intrinsically right or wrong...as I have already explained it's validity changes in t,s,p,c. However, if you would like to explore the possibility that your perspective may be limited then many IC'Fers can help you. Lemme give you some facts.... "reviving of a dying art" - in our context would mean there weren't many practitioners of leg spin. Not many found it interesting enough to try and become a leggie. But if you have a different understanding of that phrase then please do let me know. Perhaps, that could be the source of our disagreement. In the white world, after Richie Benaud there weren't any leg spinners to talk great about. So in the diminished context of the white world leg spin was a dying art. So the white boyz, found revival of this art in their white boy...not brown, not yellow, not black. So, if your perspective is restricted to white boy perspective, then you are right. (see how the same opinion becomes valid as you change t,s,p,c?) However, if your perspective is that of a cricket fan who is not paralyzed by color of the bowler then you would realize leg spin bowling never really died to need a revival. Some of the ICF'ers here can add or modify the examples I state below. Also understand the meaning of "reviving of the art" as stated by me above and view it from that perspective. Now, per me, if an art form needs revival then it must have fizzled out or there was no talent coming up or ppl were not trying to bowl leg spin. I'll give you some international names and some domestic names who kept the art alive. Remember, our contention is the death/revival of the art not how many wickets or how many tests a leg spin bowler played. But yes we can judge these players at least on their quality/potential if you'd like to. I am starting with 1960s because that is when Richie Benaud, the last of the good white leggies operated. Of course there were other white leggies too like Ian Chappell but I guess you will understand the context is that of specialist leggies 1960's - India had this gentleman by name Subhash Gupte who was possibly our first bowler-only ATG. 1960's - 1970's - Later in that decade there was a gentleman by name Bhagwat Chandrashekar who comes from the southern part of my city. The guy could bowl, they said 1970's - There was this Paki gentleman by name Intikhab Alam. They say he could turn his arm around 1980's - Abdul Qadir from Pakistan. The guy's wizardry sunk England a few times, they say. 1980's - Laxman Sivaramakrishnan. They say the Buddha asked for his help to prepare against a plump white blond who came with a reputation in 1998 to India. LS bowled to the Buddha from around the wicket on the bowlers footmarks. My childhood hero, Kapil, even today maintains LS is the greatest talent he has seen who hasn't gone on to do greater things. But ueah they are anecdotes. However, what we do know is that LS demolished the white boyz from England 1980's - Then there was this guy from Rajasthan by name Narendra Hirwani who was decent enough to keep the art of leg spin alive. they say he foxed that great biffer Viv twice in the same Test. 1980's - Mushtaq Ahmed. Carbon copies don't get more original than the action of Mushy from Qadir. Mushy went on to trouble quite a few of your white boyz. I don't know what it would mean if not "inspiration" to copy a bowler's action ditto. O by the way, even the great Gavaskar copied Abdul Qadir's action when trying to bowl leg spin (at least in some movies). 1980's - M.V.Narasimha Rao from Hyderabad who was a domestic great 1990's - Then there was this bespectacled fellow by name Anil Kumble. They said he could get batsmen out. Maybe he did. 1990's - Anantha Padmanabhan. This Kumble fellow sez his drive to excel was because of the competition from Anantha Padmanabhan. Paddy, many in Kerala and other parts of India feel, was just born at the wrong time you know like the white boyz Warne-MacGill. Paddy spun the ball more, bowled a better googly, got better purchase than this Kumble fellow in the 90s. but this Kumble fellow grabbed his opportunity so well that it was a logical impossibility to drop him. The only way Paddy could make the Indian team was if India needed two leggies which the Indian selectors and team mgmt felt was not needed. Now, my dear, I hope you can come with a better explanation of what revival means to you. I have only given you few well known names. And not many with a perspective larger than that of just the white world, would think leg spin was a dying art. So if you want to understand things better then get out of this white world perspective and view the game as a whole. Choose different perspectives to understand their points but pronouncements like Warne revived a dying art come from an obviously narrow perspective. Upto you to understand this long post or not.
Damn, you have a lot of time on your hands, dont you ?:D
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Mariyam Grand Master

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One thing is for sure - Vijay Sharma can give Ram and 'Yam a run for their money in writing looooong posts to say things which others can say in 2-3 lines :D
Its not fair to compare VS to me. Ram maybe. But not me. This guy is actually interested in cricket.
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Vijay.Sharma Newbie

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Why were Romans better?
You mean better at getting beaten up by the Gauls when compared to the Pirates. Let's see who will play which role from the Indian team and the Gauls. Asterix = Dhnoi or Buddha Obelix = Viru...in his own world and has natural ability to biff everyone Dogmatix = Gauti...he is angry always and he is a little fellow too Getafix = Buddha...or actually Dravid. O by the way did u know that the terms Dravid and Druid have the same origin? Cacophonix = Sreesanth? Vitalstatistix = Yuvi the fat Roman Commander who always gets beaten up = Ricky Pawning the bearded pirate = Shahid Afridi! Asterix bhai, feel free to add in
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mishra Mentor

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i wouldn't be surprised if some of the chewtiyas here have same IP addresses and various alter egos to help in seeking attention when all other tricks to seek attention failed..
Someone in some movie was stating that there could be six people with same face at a time.... :hehe:
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bihutoli Newbie

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Dude' date=' if Vijay Sharma writes a looooooooong granth on this topic then you will be responsible for it :whack:[/quote'] I hope he does. It will be better than listening to this crap about how good Bhajji is. Or isn't depending on which way you turn. Comeon Vijay, give us the straight one.
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