Karan114 Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Suresh Raina fined for showing dissent NDTV Correspondent Bridgetown, Barbados: Indian player Suresh Raina has been fined 25 per cent of his match fee for showing dissent at an umpire's decision on the first day of the second Test in Bridgetown, Barbados. The offence took place in the 56th over of the India innings when Raina was caught off the bowling of Devendra Bishoo. Raina was found to have breached Article 2.1.3 of the code which relates to "showing dissent at an umpire's decision by action or verbal abuse". The batsman shook his head to indicate that he did not hit the ball which seemed to be an attempt to influence the umpire's decision. On being given out he looked to the sky in disgust and then after picking his bat up from the ground swung it at the dirt as well as shaking his head again. After play concluded on day one, the southpaw pleaded guilty and accepted the proposed sanction offered to him by match referee Chris Broad. "What Suresh did was a clear breach of the code, something the player himself has accepted. There is a fine line between showing disappointment at a dismissal and demonstrating dissent but on this occasion Suresh was well over that line and his behaviour was unacceptable," Broad said. Raina was the stand-in ODI skipper in Dhoni'a absence for the West Indies tour. http://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/news/item/175210-suresh-raina-fined-for-showing-dissent
mishra Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 [bThere is a fine line between showing disappointment at a dismissal and demonstrating dissent but on this occasion Suresh was well over that line and his behaviour was unacceptable," Broad said. That fine line is beyond my understanding. I allways find our players stepping that fine line....
Stuge Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 so what is the "fine line" for ICC ? I thought so called ICC " fine line" includes breaking glass with gloves or breaking TV sets .
Karan114 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Posted June 29, 2011 Whatever the fine line is for Chris Broad, it seems his thuggish son is allowed to operate on a different one.
Rajma Chawal Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I agreed with Sunny yesterday when he said bowlers show "dissent" all the time at decisions but don't get punished but batsmen have another rule applied to them.
Mariyam Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 so what is the "fine line" for ICC ? I thought so called ICC " fine line" includes breaking glass with gloves or breaking TV sets . Generally speaking, dissent and verbal abuse etc are against a person and all that breaking TV or glass is not directed at anyone. Thats why the latter gets a reprieve. In the case of tod fod, the fines are lesser than those for abusing someone, but you obviously have to compensate for the damaged goods.
mishra Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I agreed with Sunny yesterday when he said bowlers show "dissent" all the time at decisions but don't get punished but batsmen have another rule applied to them. Everyone is not Walsh... Bowlers should be given a leeway
phaedrus Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I agreed with Sunny yesterday when he said bowlers show "dissent" all the time at decisions but don't get punished but batsmen have another rule applied to them. so true. bowlers show disappointment, fielder/captains argue and thats not dissent, but showing surprise as a batsman is?
VRV Singh Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 "On being given out, he looked to the sky in disgust and after picking his bat up from the ground swung it at the dirt as well as shaking his head again." What the phuck is this? A fine based on this crap? He didn't even stick around particularly long. Mishra getting fined was understandable as the goon was marooned to the crease...but Raina got a bigger one :facepalm:
Rajma Chawal Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Everyone is not Walsh... Bowlers should be given a leeway So why shouldn't batsmen?
saneindian Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Contrats this with a similar incident in the ICC CT 2009. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pakistan batsman Umar Akmal was found not guilty Sunday of dissent during the Champions Trophy semi-final loss to New Zealand, an International Cricket Council statement said. The charge was brought by umpires Ian Gould and Simon Taufel, TV umpire Daryl Harper and reserve umpire Steve Davis after Umar reacted angrily to a leg-before decision against him. Disciplinary hearing convenor Javagal Srinath said: "Umar's reaction at being dismissed at such a crucial phase of the innings was more of disappointment than anything else. "Having been in these situations I understand how a player reacts or can express himself, but I don't think there was anything other than disappointment in this incident." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perfect example of how such issues should be dealt with when the match ref knows that the on field umpire clearly made an error in his judgment. BTW the same Mr. Broad has once smahsed the stumps with his bat after given out. WOnder if he was banned for some matches for that kind of dissent.
mishra Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 So why shouldn't batsmen? Because there is something called appeal. Bowler has to appeal to start with. And unlike batsman, bowler is turned down several time. Batsman has to face the wrath only once throughout the inning
asterix Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 It's just Raina's IPL pocket money..Whatever helps in filling ICC coffers. I know why Indian players are fined regularly..This is one of the way of funding ICC..It's an important source of income for ICC and we should'nt mind all these..
bihutoli Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 It's just Raina's IPL pocket money..Whatever helps in filling ICC coffers. I know why Indian players are fined regularly..This is one of the way of funding ICC..It's an important source of income for ICC and we should'nt mind all these.. True that! Raina should throw another 25% at Broad's fat face!
asterix Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 The modus oprandi is to try to give as many atrocious decisions as possible against Indian players, especially the IPL top earners..Get a reaction about the atrocious decision and then "fine" them.. Easy money.. BCCI should create a separate "Atrocious Decision Fines" funding for ICC.. That'll save the time of ICC which is forced to use underhand techniques for squeezing money out of Indians..
Sachin=GOD Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Seems like that "fine line" applies only to certain cricketers.
TheWall Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Seems like that "fine line" applies only to certain cricketers. ... and will never ever apply to his offspring....
Karan114 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Posted June 29, 2011 Raina's reaction to his dismissal was worthy of a fine but Darren Bravo's reaction was perfectly acceptable?
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