rkt.india Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 They are three quickest Indian pacers. But fast by world standards? Not yet. For that you need to be 90mph+ cocnsistently Ishant is at best a 86-87 mph bowler currently with occasionally hitting 89-90 mph. Though with his height and skills, even his current speed makes him dangerous especially when he unfocussed on his in swinger like he did earlier and did in the current series so far. Umesh Yadav when he bowled for India in the Zim tri series, again bowled at 85-86 mph. In first classes matches, bowls at a similar speed with a peak speed of around 90 mph. No one has seen Varun bowl in a first class match with a speed gun. He did bowl consistently fast in domestic one dayers and in IPL with a average speed of around 90 mph. The key question is can he do that in a first class match where he will have to bowl 20-22 overs in a day? Umesh and Varun will need time before a judgement is made on how good they are for international cricket. Till then we can only hope for the best. Yadav did bowl at an average speed of 87 mph in challenger trophy final with fastest being 91+ mph and clocked more pace In IPL. Zimbabwe series was his first series and he looked nervous, so i won't judge him on that basis. He was asked to bowl as fast as he can by DD in IPL and there he was clocked consistently fast. Another thing is no bowler goes full throttle in FC games on patta all times. There are a few spells when a bowler put full efforts. I have seen likes of Ryan Harris, Doug Bollinger, Peter Siddle not even crossing 135K in Australian FC and whenever they play internationals, they easily bowl 140 plus to 150K. I had asked a question about him to Akash Chopra and Akash said i faced him in a Ranji match in 2010-2011 season where i scored a century and Varun was fast but a bit wayward at that time. There is no bowler right now in world cricket who averages 90 mph...most of the bowlers are averages around 86-88 mph average speed with fastest going up to 150 (93 mph). Roach too struggled to touch 90 mph in ODI series.
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 nothing wrong in encouraging indian fast bowlers but oher countries also have fast bowlers in their domestic cricket who are capable of touching 150kph eg- sa- friedel de wet, craig alexander , Francois Plaatjies aus- patrick cummins, mitchell starc, wi- tino best, nelon pascal ,kelbert walters eng -matt dunn ,saj mahmood ,matt steaker nz- adam milne there are others who have clocked high 140 but i didnt mention them these are the guys i have seen clock 150 the 2 aussies clocked 148 and 146 respectively on their domestic speed gun ie the one used by fox sports and i have seen that this speed gun is 5k slower than ch 9 , sky sports,supersports or neo sports speedgun because max pace of bowlers like nannes, mitch have been about 145-146 on fox sports speed gun but they clocked 150 in the other speed guns .so i have included them in 150 k bracket P.S- haven't been able to included any pakis because they are too poor to have speed guns in their domestic cricket De Wet is not actually that fast, same is nelon pascal, more of 135K to 140 not more than that. England's fastest bowler is 22 year old Stuart Meaker. Napier is not that fast. Adam Milne is only 19 and will be NZ's regular in a year or 2. Patrick Cummins has just debuted in Australian FC.
Cricket Tragic Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Speeds of 85-90 mph on their own are not going to bother international batsmen.
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 how did you come to know akash chopra? I had quite a few discussion with him on twitter.
Cricket Tragic Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 how did you come to know akash chopra? Twitter?
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Speeds of 85-90 mph on their own are not going to bother international batsmen. If a bowler is accurate enough, he will always trouble batsmen at 85-90 mph. Accuracy is the key because batsmen get less time to adjust in comparison to someone bowl at 75-80 mph and attaining accuracy is not difficult, just needs a lot of practice in nets will improve a bowler's accuracy.
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 no idea about suyol ' date='but shukla clocked [b']129 k as a 17 yr old in selection trial for mrf 131K it was....He is considered to be fast as well ...he is 20 now....
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 no idea about suyol ' date='but shukla clocked 129 k as a 17 yr old in selection trial for mrf[/quote'] I heard Suyal is pacy too.He's not in the Mumbai Indians team for nothing.
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 there was a guy called pritam das from assam when i saw him in 2007 as a 19 yr old in icl he clocked quite a few ball in high 130s & low 140s wonder what happened to him He is playing for Assam now,capable of touching 140 though not express.
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Pritam Das Assam fast bowler:-Hailakandi, Nov. 6: He may not be as fast as the Rawalpindi Express, but the Cachar Express is speedily building a reputation as a strike bowler. Alas, he is no longer bowling for Assam. Nicknamed so for his ability to consistently bowl fast, Pritam Das is enjoying his spell with the Indian Cricket lague (ICL) and has described his joining the rebel league as the turning point in his career.Guys can check this link for more information:-www.mumbaiindians.com/pritamdas.aspx.There is aslo a cricinfo profile abt him.He is back in the Assam team now & has played 2 ranji games.
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Quite a few Quick bowlers are emerging from East Zone like Aaron,Abu Nechim,Dinda,Mohammad Sami Ahmed & Pritam das.
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Hey guys good news Pritam Das is already contracted to Mumbai Indians.Rahul Shukla,Pawan Suyal & Pritam Das all of them are in the Mumbai Indians squad as youth players.
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 So we've some real talented fast guys like Ishant,Umesh,Aaron,Abu Nechim,Tyagi,Pawan Suyal,Pritam Das,Rahul Shukla.All of them are 140k+ in the full throttle.Anyone else in the domestic circuit who can crank it upto 140k+????
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Ishant,Umesh,Aaron,Tyagi,Pawan Suyal,Abu Nechim,Sami Ahmed,Pritam Das,Rahul Shukla we've so many talented & most importantly young fast bowlers.Exciting times are coming for us pretty soon.Anyway is there any geniune quick in the domestic circuit except these guys????
Midfielder Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Chahal and Sangwan but not too sure about their speeds.
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Dial C for cricket is a popular programme in Neo Cricket & Karsan Ghavri was talking abt 3 fast bowlers in his academy.I can remember one name he mentioned was Baltej Singh but I can't remember the other two.One of them is a fast-bowling allrounder he mentioned.Can u guys confirm these names & the informations from any source????
ShebbySB Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Chahal and Sangwan but not too sure about their speeds. No mate both of them are trundlers.:((
daryl1985 Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 nothing wrong in encouraging indian fast bowlers but oher countries also have fast bowlers in their domestic cricket who are capable of touching 150kph eg- sa- friedel de wet, craig alexander , Francois Plaatjies aus- patrick cummins, mitchell starc, wi- tino best, nelon pascal ,kelbert walters eng -matt dunn ,saj mahmood ,stuart meaker ,graham napier nz- adam milne there are others who have clocked high 140 but i didnt mention them these are the guys i have seen clock 150 the 2 aussies clocked 148 and 146 respectively on their domestic speed gun ie the one used by fox sports and i have seen that this speed gun is 5k slower than ch 9 , sky sports,supersports or neo sports speedgun because max pace of bowlers like nannes, mitch have been about 145-146 on fox sports speed gun but they clocked 150 in the other speed guns .so i have included them in 150 k bracket P.S- haven't been able to include any pakis because they are too poor to have speed guns in their domestic cricket :hysterical:
desi pride 1234 Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 good thread. nice to know abt the fast bowlers for the future.
Cricket Tragic Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Quite a few Quick bowlers are emerging from East Zone like Aaron' date='Abu Nechim,Dinda,[b']Mohammad Sami Ahmed & Pritam das. :((
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