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Dhoni, the MOST GUTLESS CAPTAIN in the history of Indian cricket.

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Gambhir second option when Sehwag is injured. Gambhir loses the plot pretty easily' date=' hence not the primary option..Need to groom a captain in the younger lot. Viraat Kohli is coming out as an arrogant brat. Should look for other alternatives..[/quote'] Sehwag is not a bad choice as he is a permanent fixture in the side, hopefully his batting is not affected also he mentored and supported the bowlers quite well as Delhi Daredevils capt,also is respected and very simple guy who talks to the point and a fighter.He is 33 so has plenty of years ahead of him, I would love for him to be the test captain, with Parthiv , Kartik, Naman Ojha, Uday Kaul, the best among them as keeper bat, Rohit at number 6.:hatsoff:
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His captaincy has not been up to the mark in this test but everybody is exaggerating things over here. I don't think there is a wicketkeeper who can keep as well as he does and bats better than him in tests. Who do you wanna have as captain then?

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His captaincy has not been up to the mark in this test but everybody is exaggerating things over here. I don't think there is a wicketkeeper who can keep as well as he does and bats better than him in tests. Who do you wanna have as captain then?
Yes, there is a lack of realistic alternatives in both captaincy and keeping. But that doesn't change the fact that both Dhoni the player and captain is becoming increasingly bad at Test level. If he loses this series, on top of the debacle in England then even with the lack of alternatives his Test captaincy is going to come under real pressure. Even in the dark days of the 90s I'm not sure how often we lost five away Tests in a row as Dhoni has done.
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Yes, there is a lack of realistic alternatives in both captaincy and keeping. But that doesn't change the fact that both Dhoni the player and captain is becoming increasingly bad at Test level. If he loses this series, on top of the debacle in England then even with the lack of alternatives his Test captaincy is going to come under real pressure. Even in the dark days of the 90s I'm not sure how often we lost five away Tests in a row as Dhoni has done.
Five "overseas" Test matches.
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^Is it only because of Dhoni that we lost those 5 tests on the trot?
No, but he wasn't the only one responsible for our wins when he was being feted as a great captain, either. That's how it goes.
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. If he loses this series, on top of the debacle in England then even with the lack of alternatives his Test captaincy is going to come under real pressure. .
They won't contemplate thethought of firing a world cup winning captain. Sad but true. If India wants to win games, it will have to be in spite of him and not because of him.
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He assumes that he's playing a T20 at all times. He also sets up the field accordingly so that mishits for sixes can be caught. What's wrong with that? I never liked his field placement to start with. he scores sometimes but he's so unorthodox that sometimes I wonder if i am watching baseball instead of cricket.

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He assumes that he's playing a T20 at all times. He also sets up the field accordingly so that mishits for sixes can be caught. What's wrong with that? I never liked his field placement to start with. he scores sometimes but he's so unorthodox that sometimes I wonder if i am watching baseball instead of cricket.
His tactics are perfect for odis, where wicket taking isn't a priority and stopping runs is key. You can't work that way in tests tho.
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His tactics are perfect for odis' date=' where wicket taking isn't a priority and stopping runs is key. You can't work that way in tests tho.[/quote'] agreed..test cricket is only picking wickets..in one day he is best..batting n captain..
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Check out this article http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/547530.html

India need to rethink strategy against tail Australia's last four wickets outscored India's by 79 runs over both innings at the MCG. In a series that could be decided by lower-order contributions, MS Dhoni may need to change his defensive tactics Sidharth Monga December 31, 2011 India began and ended the year similarly. At Newlands, it was Mark Boucher and an injured Jacques Kallis who were allowed to get away when India were on top. At the MCG, it was the Australian lower order. At Newlands the India batsmen were in better form, and came out with a draw when they could have won. At the MCG the batsmen struggled, and India lost when they could have won. At the heart of both those disappointments was how India spread the field as soon as they saw the lower order. Not a gradual phasing out of attack, no. Not reacting to a boundary or two. MS Dhoni has been going on the defensive as soon as the lower-order players come out to bat. At Newlands, Kallis, batting at No. 5 and battling the pain of a side strain, walked out to a long-on in place, and there was a deep point the moment he reverse-swept a four. On the first day in Melbourne, Brad Haddin came out to face a hat-trick ball at 5 for 205. That soon become 6 for 214, when Ed Cowan was dismissed, but in the next over Dhoni had long-on, deep midwicket and fine leg for Haddin. Dhoni's defence for the welcome given to Haddin says all you need to know. "You have to see who was bowling," he said [it was R Ashwin who was bowling]. "Haddin is a good player of spin. We were bowling first, which meant there were no rough patches to play with. It could have been easy pickings. What we wanted to do was see if he is good enough and takes a single every delivery. [in that case] we look to put pressure on the other batsmen or from the other end from which the fast bowlers were bowling. It's a strategy that goes your way or doesn't go your way. You have to back yourself." But Ashwin had been looking to get wickets when it was 3 for 205, and Michael Clarke and Cowan were at the crease. Why suddenly stop trying to get one of the batsmen out? Ashwin was not easy pickings for Clarke, how did he suddenly become easy pickings for Haddin? The result is no surprise. Australia's last four wickets added a total of 211 runs over the two innings. India's managed 132, 88 of those coming in the second innings when the match was already lost and the tail could swing the bat without any pressure. This is - at least it seemed to be for the first three days - a series between evenly matched sides. Runs scored by lower orders could decide the outcome. The last two series that India have won against Australia both featured contributions from the lower order. In 2008-09, it was Zaheer Khan and Harbhajan Singh's 80-run partnership that helped India draw the first Test, which proved to be a massive turning point in the series. In 2010-11, Ishant Sharma and Pragyan Ojha hung around with VVS Laxman to win India the Mohali Test. It is no coincidence that when the Australian lower order beats India's by 79 runs, India wind up losing the Test by 122. At the end of the game, Dhoni said his side needed to come up with a "formula" to get tailenders out. To lose the existing formula might be a start. The current formula might have worked for Dhoni on slower tracks, on smaller fields where singles are easy to defend, but such passivity against the tail is bound to hurt you at some time. Ian Chappell said the captain, more than the bowlers, had to be blamed for this. There is merit to what Chappell says. The same bowlers who have been trying to get a wicket every ball are now expected to change their game-plan to restricting boundaries for one batsman and then desperately trying to take a wicket with the last one or two deliveries of the over. Dhoni is a captain who usually knows what moments to seize; in Melbourne he looked two of them in the eye and let them pass. On the other hand, Clarke, fresher to the job, was a little more intuitive when it came to the Indian tail. After the match he defended Dhoni's tactics, and said that he would have done the same; but actually he did not. He did not fight his own team's momentum, and ran through the Indian Nos. 7, 8 and 9. Dhoni, unlike Haddin, was attacked in the first innings. It was only when Ashwin got into a partnership with the No. 11 that the fields went back, and that too after the partnership had begun developing. Clarke's empathising with Dhoni says a lot about modern cricket: fearless tails, heavy bats and thick edges put the fear of a counterattack in the fielding captain's mind. "I did the same for Ashwin in the first innings," Clarke said. "I did the same for Dhoni on the fourth day [after Dhoni had hit a six and a couple] because the runs from the tail are important for any team, especially when the pitch is a bit bowler-friendly. As a team, every single run you get is crucial. I can see why Dhoni did it. Probably for the same reasons I did it; because you want to protect every single run." Be that as it may, Dhoni realises the runs scored by the Australian lower order hurt India. He knows if he had knocked over the tail quickly India could have been chasing something around 230, and not 292. But he fears that had he tried to run through the tail, one or more of the batsmen could have taken advantage of close fields and scored more than they eventually did. Having put it down as one of the reasons for the defeat, Dhoni will at least revisit the strategy against lower orders. We all know it can do with a rethink.

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