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Virat did well to go to security , I would have thrown a bat at you guys . just cos you paid few buks to buy tickets dont mean you have a right to boo or curse at players .

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Virat did well to go to security ' date=' I would have thrown a bat at you guys . just cos you paid few buks to buy tickets dont mean you have a right to boo or curse at players .[/quote'] Just because he was part of a World Cup winning squad, doesn't give him the right to be a *****. It's quite easy to have an opinion formulated from the media's influence. We would do it all again. If you're the kind of person who doesn't get moved by the hurt look on a little child's face, caused by his hero, then you're not the kind of person I wish to waste any further replies on after this... I would love to have seen what would happen if he even tried that (bat in crowd). Do you think then that 4-5 security guards would have held 100-150 men, behind a weak fence? Do you think he would have escaped criminal charges with hundreds of witnesses? Kohli isn't as 'god-like' and exempt from the law in England, as he most likely is in India... It's actually blind worshippers like you that fuel the moronic arrogance in people like this. Thanks for your input though. x
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Just because he was part of a World Cup winning squad, doesn't give him the right to be a *****. It's quite easy to have an opinion formulated from the media's influence. We would do it all again. If you're the kind of person who doesn't get moved by the hurt look on a little child's face, caused by his hero, then you're not the kind of person I wish to waste any further replies on after this... I would love to have seen what would happen if he even tried that (bat in crowd). Do you think then that 4-5 security guards would have held 100-150 men, behind a weak fence? Do you think he would have escaped criminal charges with hundreds of witnesses? Kohli isn't as 'god-like' and exempt from the law in England, as he most likely is in India... It's actually blind worshippers like you that fuel the moronic arrogance in people like this. Thanks for your input though. x
no one is asking you to worship these guys but rather show some class . the way i see it you cursed him all day & he dealt with it in a pretty degnified way (by not throwing a bat ) ... what I find strange is you are the one whos complaining here . if Virat had done anything unprovoked , i can understand ...but unless spineless I dont see how any one could have reacted differently.
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no one is asking you to worship these guys but rather show some class . the way i see it you cursed him all day & he dealt with it in a pretty degnified way (by not throwing a bat ) ... what I find strange is you are the one whos complaining here . if Virat had done anything unprovoked ' date=' i can understand ...but unless spineless I dont see how any one could have reacted differently.[/quote'] ++++ 1 +++++ 2 and so on... Lets make something clear - Virat Kohli should not have behaved this way. BUT The other side of the equation is why do we keep hearing such nonsense only when it comes to British migrants??? Brits Pakistanis are probably the worst ambassdors of their nation in the world (even Pakistanis admit that). Looks like Brit Indians may not be so different after all. These players play all over the world, including half the time in 30-40 thousand packed stadium in India, never heard any incident of players chasing after spectators with a bat. Of course have not heard that anytime India has travelled Australia, West Indies, South Africa either. Nobody on ICF is more critical than I have been about Gen-X players and their false bravados but there is something also with Brit Indians that need to be analyzed here. You are not Indians, you are British Indians (British comes first) and so please do not have a sense of entitlement about Indian players, which some seem to suffer from. xxx
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++++ 1 +++++ 2 and so on... Lets make something clear - Virat Kohli should not have behaved this way. BUT The other side of the equation is why do we keep hearing such nonsense only when it comes to British migrants??? Brits Pakistanis are probably the worst ambassdors of their nation in the world (even Pakistanis admit that). Looks like Brit Indians may not be so different after all. These players play all over the world, including half the time in 30-40 thousand packed stadium in India, never heard any incident of players chasing after spectators with a bat. Of course have not heard that anytime India has travelled Australia, West Indies, South Africa either. Nobody on ICF is more critical than I have been about Gen-X players and their false bravados but there is something also with Brit Indians that need to be analyzed here. You are not Indians, you are British Indians (British comes first) and so please do not have a sense of entitlement about Indian players, which some seem to suffer from. xxx
Hmmm. The ONLY incident I've ever heard of involving a bat was in Canada. Now, I'm no geography teacher, but... Anyway, thanks for clarifying the nationality thing. We needed someone to dictate to us what we can and can't be, and you filled the role superbly. Congrats... Now, I'm sure you're busy, there's quite a few stadiums for you to set fire to when things aren't going your way, or perhaps you could throw a few bottles/missiles at players? Oh, wait, that never happens in India...
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Hmmm. The ONLY incident I've ever heard of involving a bat was in Canada. Now, I'm no geography teacher, but... Anyway, thanks for clarifying the nationality thing. We needed someone to dictate to us what we can and can't be, and you filled the role superbly. Congrats... Now, I'm sure you're busy, there's quite a few stadiums for you to set fire to when things aren't going your way, or perhaps you could throw a few bottles/missiles at players? Oh, wait, that never happens in India...
Sarcasm wont take you anywhere dude, and neither I am in business of dictating national sentiments. What I would suggest though is this. Indian fans, and by that I mean fans who carry Indian passports, stand behind their team because of national leaning and love for the game. British Indians stand behind Indian team because of ancestory and also to show off against their counterparts (read English, Brit Pakistanis etc) in one-upmanship. Why should Indian cricket team carry your agenda?? Now if you really wanna try something how about you enact the same ritual against English, Aussies and every other team that travels England over next year and see if you get shoved by Security or not. xx
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Sarcasm wont take you anywhere dude, and neither I am in business of dictating national sentiments. What I would suggest though is this. Indian fans, and by that I mean fans who carry Indian passports, stand behind their team because of national leaning and love for the game. British Indians stand behind Indian team because of ancestory and also to show off against their counterparts (read English, Brit Pakistanis etc) in one-upmanship. Why should Indian cricket team carry your agenda?? Now if you really wanna try something how about you enact the same ritual against English, Aussies and every other team that travels England over next year and see if you get shoved by Security or not. xx
My agenda? You mean common decency? One thing you guys really seem to be struggling with is this: - "The Booing, had nothing to do with the performance. Other players were cheered even when almost certainly doomed in terms of the result. Kohli was Booed (not sworn at) because of his behaviour towards a CHILD." Anyone booing because of bad performance would be a moron, and it's not something I would do. Besides, why would he be booed for bad performance, when all he did was field in the match? Now, to address your last point, I have seen English players actually abused, and soak it up. I have seen fans chant "You fat bastard" at Flintoff, to which he turned around, grabbed his belly, and laughed. I have seen Monty Panesar destroyed by India fans, and he continued to ignore it while fielding. (Many more examples etc). I have never seen any player run to security before, or getting a fan ejected. It would only really happen if racial in nature, or physical. I've seen what Indian papers have fabricated regarding this incident, which is why I can understand some of this aggro...
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My agenda? You mean common decency? One thing you guys really seem to be struggling with is this: - "The Booing, had nothing to do with the performance. Other players were cheered even when almost certainly doomed in terms of the result. Kohli was Booed (not sworn at) because of his behaviour towards a CHILD." Anyone booing because of bad performance would be a moron, and it's not something I would do. Besides, why would he be booed for bad performance, when all he did was field in the match? Now, to address your last point, I have seen English players actually abused, and soak it up. I have seen fans chant "You fat bastard" at Flintoff, to which he turned around, grabbed his belly, and laughed. I have seen Monty Panesar destroyed by India fans, and he continued to ignore it while fielding. (Many more examples etc). I have never seen any player run to security before, or getting a fan ejected. It would only really happen if racial in nature, or physical. I've seen what Indian papers have fabricated regarding this incident, which is why I can understand some of this aggro...
Arent you basically proving my point about something weird about British fans, migrants or not? You seriously think thats how Aussie, Saffers, NZ or any other fans behave? And while I can understand your frustration with Kohli there has been another incident involving Praveen Kumar so clearly it is beyond one player. With regards to Indian papers I am just waking up on a Sunday morning so have absolutely no idea :winky:
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The same Virat Kohli when he is in Delhi during his free time, is always available for visiting NGOs working for under privileged children, elderly etc. Participates in a lot of charity programs as well. In fact I have seen him at a few events in malls in Delhi and he has come across as a decent guy signing autographs, chatting to fans.

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Arent you basically proving my point about something weird about British fans, migrants or not? You seriously think thats how Aussie, Saffers, NZ or any other fans behave? And while I can understand your frustration with Kohli there has been another incident involving Praveen Kumar so clearly it is beyond one player. With regards to Indian papers I am just waking up on a Sunday morning so have absolutely no idea :winky:
I missed the incident with Kumar. I've seen pictures, and I remember walking past that bus a few times during play. Kumar was below par, but he received no abuse from us in the stands. He was actually a really nice guy, just like Sreesanth. Talked to the fans with respect. As I didn't see what happened, I have nothing to say against Kumar, or the fan involved... As for British migrants etc, some of the fiercest booing against Kohli was coming from what you would call 'Proper' Indians, who had spent most of the day chatting away in Hindi, and had blatantly flown in to follow the team on tour. I have seen similar groups of Indians from India, leading the way in abusive chants against Pakistan, when we played a T20 against them at the Oval in 2009. (Not that us 'Brits' needed much encouragement). Up until the proper Indians started, the chants from the Brits had been pretty tame in comparison, like "We are India, say we are India" etc...
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I missed the incident with Kumar. I've seen pictures, and I remember walking past that bus a few times during play. Kumar was below par, but he received no abuse from us in the stands. He was actually a really nice guy, just like Sreesanth. Talked to the fans with respect. As I didn't see what happened, I have nothing to say against Kumar, or the fan involved... As for British migrants etc, some of the fiercest booing against Kohli was coming from what you would call 'Proper' Indians, who had spent most of the day chatting away in Hindi, and had blatantly flown in to follow the team on tour. I have seen similar groups of Indians from India, leading the way in abusive chants against Pakistan, when we played a T20 against them at the Oval in 2009. (Not that us 'Brits' needed much encouragement). Up until the proper Indians started, the chants from the Brits had been pretty tame in comparison, like "We are India, say we are India" etc...
Virat is from delhi, and few delhi icf members would justify his action. Ignore them.
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I missed the incident with Kumar. I've seen pictures, and I remember walking past that bus a few times during play. Kumar was below par, but he received no abuse from us in the stands. He was actually a really nice guy, just like Sreesanth. Talked to the fans with respect. As I didn't see what happened, I have nothing to say against Kumar, or the fan involved... As for British migrants etc, some of the fiercest booing against Kohli was coming from what you would call 'Proper' Indians, who had spent most of the day chatting away in Hindi, and had blatantly flown in to follow the team on tour. I have seen similar groups of Indians from India, leading the way in abusive chants against Pakistan, when we played a T20 against them at the Oval in 2009. (Not that us 'Brits' needed much encouragement). Up until the proper Indians started, the chants from the Brits had been pretty tame in comparison, like "We are India, say we are India" etc...
actually dude eventhough i picked on viRAT for my own entertainment... on a more serious note, some guys have raised good points on this thread... have you considered the possibility that players would feel threatened by a mob behind their backs? i mean true, he might have been a pig head towards a kid but is that reason enuf to provoke him with chanting and booing and all. sure he earns money because of fans... but he is not a slave . and then immediately after the match some guys provoked praveen kumar too. yeah sure we are losing and going thru a lean patch but a lot of losers out there want to get a thrill by saying something bad to a celebrity and getting off unpunished. iam sure he treated you badly as you say but did taunting our own player solve anything. why didnt one of you just tell the group that he is our own player, just ignore him... iam not supporting him... just asking you if ignoring him would have been so much better?
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actually dude eventhough i picked on viRAT for my own entertainment... on a more serious note, some guys have raised good points on this thread... have you considered the possibility that players would feel threatened by a mob behind their backs? i mean true, he might have been a pig head towards a kid but is that reason enuf to provoke him with chanting and booing and all. sure he earns money because of fans... but he is not a slave . and then immediately after the match some guys provoked praveen kumar too. yeah sure we are losing and going thru a lean patch but a lot of losers out there want to get a thrill by saying something bad to a celebrity and getting off unpunished. iam sure he treated you badly as you say but did taunting our own player solve anything. why didnt one of you just tell the group that he is our own player, just ignore him... iam not supporting him... just asking you if ignoring him would have been so much better?
I can see your point, but it's not the autograph refusal itself, it's the way he did it. He also showed no sign of being apologetic (see pics). There were no abusive chants, just sarcastic ones, and booing. Also, the fact that he lied (the security guy told us what he said to try and get someone ejected)... By the way, the guy who got ejected wasn't a Brit, he was proper Indian. We didn't want to do this. We didn't travel miles to have a go. I used to think Kohli was class before this happened. This was the first (and hopefully last) time I've booed an Indian player. It's done now, hopefully he learns some manners, and this is filed in the past...
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I can see your point, but it's not the autograph refusal itself, it's the way he did it. He also showed no sign of being apologetic (see pics). There were no abusive chants, just sarcastic ones, and booing. Also, the fact that he lied (the security guy told us what he said to try and get someone ejected)... By the way, the guy who got ejected wasn't a Brit, he was proper Indian. We didn't want to do this. We didn't travel miles to have a go. I used to think Kohli was class before this happened. This was the first (and hopefully last) time I've booed an Indian player. It's done now, hopefully he learns some manners, and this is filed in the past...
maybe after a week or so, you will look at the incident in a different light. :smiley:

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