Jadeja is actually a good odi player.

[Cevno]

His bowling has been really good though. His fielding has been amazing. Batting not so good

Then he should come in as a bowler in Indian conditions, batting at 8/9.

[Cevno]

Its about balance and options. yes if yuvi is 5th bowler and bowling well then great but what if dinda is having a shocker, then no option. What if yuvi having a shocker no option

Ishant was doing badly yesterday. Raina was doing better than Jadeja. Yet Dhoni kept bowling Ishant didn't use Raina more and Didn't bowl Yuvraj at all.

[Cevno]

This is true. Jadeja is not such an asset to the team. but even he is doing what he is expected to do' date=' while the so called other "talents" have made the team a joke. In an Indian team playing to its full potential, Jadeja has no place, but under the present circumstances Jadeja is not such a bad choice, until we find another resource who can fill this slot.[/quote']

[WeStMiDz]

I think Jadeja has a lot of plus points going for him and when looking at the alternatives its not surprising he gets game time. But one thing that is not suitable for him is batting at number 7. He doesn't have the batting temperament nor batting explosiveness to bat there AT PRESENT. Now there are two potential solutions to this 1) If you consider his bowling and fielding to be much superior to alternative all rounder candidates then you could perhaps try to bat Jadeja up the order where he can construct an innings and then play the odd aggressive shot. He is a very useful hitter of spin but not so much against pace bowling. Switching positions with Raina could be an option as the latter cannot play long innings' but does have the power to finish off games with vital cameos. 2) Drop him and bring in an alternative all rounder. For me I don't see any superior all rounders in domestic cricket. Anyone who mentions Abishek 'I bowl worse than Kohli' Nayar as an option has clearly lost the plot.

[Sooda]

In the last 12 months Pathan has played 12 ODIs averaged 34 with the bat and taken 19 wickets Jadeja has played 13 ODIs averaged 16 with the bat and taken 8 wickets

[Cevno]

We need a batting all rounder not a bowling one FFS. A job which Yuvraj was doing very well for past 2 years. 1 bad game and he's not a bowling option anymore ? lol. Which ODI team has been succesful with 5 bowlers ? And moving him up the order is useless, as he isn't good enough for that and will decrease the team's capacity only to improve him personally.

[Sooda]

^ we need a bowling allrounder as a 5th bowler AND Yuvraj as lord says to make up a few overs in case one of the frontline bowlers has a bad day

[Cevno]

Yeah, the thing about him as a bowler is too that he is more a economic bowler than a wicket taker.

[Cevno]

^ we need a bowling allrounder as a 5th bowler AND Yuvraj as lord says to make up a few overs in case one of the frontline bowlers has a bad day

Accha which team has been succesful in ODI cricket with 5 specialist bowlers ? Even Australia played Harvey first and then SYmonds ahead of the bowling all rounder options they had.

[Lord]

I think Jadeja has a lot of plus points going for him and when looking at the alternatives its not surprising he gets game time. But one thing that is not suitable for him is batting at number 7. He doesn't have the batting temperament nor batting explosiveness to bat there AT PRESENT. Now there are two potential solutions to this 1) If you consider his bowling and fielding to be much superior to alternative all rounder candidates then you could perhaps try to bat Jadeja up the order where he can construct an innings and then play the odd aggressive shot. He is a very useful hitter of spin but not so much against pace bowling. Switching positions with Raina could be an option as the latter cannot play long innings' but does have the power to finish off games with vital cameos. 2) Drop him and bring in an alternative all rounder. For me I don't see any superior all rounders in domestic cricket. Anyone who mentions Abishek 'I bowl worse than Kohli' Nayar as an option has clearly lost the plot.

agree

[Lord]

Accha which team has been succesful in ODI cricket with 5 specialist bowlers ? Even Australia played Harvey first and then SYmonds ahead of the bowling all rounder options they had.

Australia first 4 bowlers were good enough n allrounder was just required to bowl his overs.in our case one of main bowlers is almost certain to be thrashed

[Sooda]

Accha which team has been succesful in ODI cricket with 5 specialist bowlers ? Even Australia played Harvey first and then SYmonds ahead of the bowling all rounder options they had.

They had a very good front line bowling attack which meant a batsman-bowler was enough in Symonds and before that Ian Harvey was a bowling all rounder. I agree 5 specialist bowlers gives a team too long a tail so one of the five should be able to bat a bit. Id suggest a good ODI side needs 6 bowlers- four specialists one bowling allrounder and one batsman who can bowl a bit

[NareshK]

Jadeja should be pushed up the order and made to bat at 5, just to see how he bats when there is more time. If he can even score at strike rate of 80, there are enough batsmen like Dhoni, Raina to strike out at the end. He could be more utilized that way than having to slog against faster bowlers which doesnt seem to be his strength. After all, we are talking about someone who scored 3 triple centuries in domestic cricket. :P

[Lord]

Jadeja should be pushed up the order and made to bat at 5, just to see how he bats when there is more time. If he can even score at strike rate of 80, there are enough batsmen like Dhoni, Raina to strike out at the end. He could be more utilized that way than having to slog and hole out as that doesnt seem to be his strength. After all, we are talking about someone who scored 3 triple centuries in domestic cricket. :P

agree.I suggested the same thing few days back

[Idone1232]

he's a legend!!

[Cevno]

Australia first 4 bowlers were good enough n allrounder was just required to bowl his overs.in our case one of main bowlers is almost certain to be thrashed

They had a very good front line bowling attack which meant a batsman-bowler was enough in Symonds and before that Ian Harvey was a bowling all rounder. I agree 5 specialist bowlers gives a team too long a tail so one of the five should be able to bat a bit. Id suggest a good ODI side needs 6 bowlers- four specialists one bowling allrounder and one batsman who can bowl a bit

Well, then we need to look to find good 4 bowlers and not try and fit in Bowling all rounders. A good team needs a batting all rounder not bowling. We won the WC not far back with that combo too ffs.

[Lord]

Well, then we need to look to find good 4 bowlers and not try and fit in Bowling all rounders. A good team needs a batting all rounder not bowling. We won the WC not far back with that combo too ffs.

lol good luck with finding 4 top bowlers.lets loose every match till then. we won the WC coz our main bowlers led by Zak did well.now we have 4 young bowlers

[Cevno]

Difference between UV's bowling and Jadeja's is not that big too warrant bringing him in and losing batting. Simple as that. He maybe a decent bowler in home conditions, but then so is UV in recent times. Abroad Jadeja has been hit around in the past while UV has done equal if not better than him. :giggle: We also have Raina and Kohli who can fit in suitable conditions. Its not like Jadeja himself is a massive wickettaker either. He can keep it tight more than be a wickettaker. Meh 6 out of 10 times UV and Raina etc.. can do that job too, while Jadeja may do it 8 out 10 at most and that too at home.

[Cevno]

lol good luck with finding 4 top bowlers.lets loose every match till then. we won the WC coz our main bowlers led by Zak did well.now we have 4 young bowlers

Yeah, Jadeja at best saving 10 runs a game with the ball is winning us a sure lot of matches. Look at the winning percentages with him, in and out of team. See UV's record with the ball for past 2 years and find me how many of our specialist bowlers have done better ? And Jadeja abroad loses that utility value too. Champions trophy is in England while next WC is in Australia where he got smacked easy.

[Lord]

Difference between UV's bowling and Jadeja's is not that big too warrant bringing him in and losing batting. Simple as that. He maybe a decent bowler in home conditions, but then so is UV in recent times. Abroad Jadeja has been hit around in the past while UV has done equal if not better than him. :giggle: We also have Raina and Kohli who can fit in suitable conditions. Its not like Jadeja himself is a massive wickettaker either. He can keep it tight more than be a wickettaker. Meh 6 out of 10 times UV and Raina etc.. can do that job too, while Jadeja may do it 8 out 10 at most and that too at home.

but Jadeja isnt competing with Yuvraj as the 5th bowling option,we need both of them.also keeping it tight is useful in ODIs too if he can consisently do that which he seems to be doing