Jadeja is actually a good odi player.

[Sooda]

Way I see it we need Pathan as 3rd paceman and bowler who can bat a bit. Two good spinners in Ojha and Ashwin (who can also chip in possibly with runs). Yuvraj to bowl a bit if needed

[Lord]

Way I see it we need Pathan as 3rd paceman and bowler who can bat a bit. Two good spinners in Ojha and Ashwin (who can also chip in possibly with runs). Yuvraj to bowl a bit if needed

agree about Pathan.hes injured otherwise would walk in. Ojha over Jadeja I'm not sure.Jadeja's doing an okay job.Ojha has mostly played SL n has a decent record.Jadeja fields well n too saves 10 runs on average.I think as a package hes better bet than Ojha

[Cevno]

lol good luck with finding 4 top bowlers.lets loose every match till then. we won the WC coz our main bowlers led by Zak did well.now we have 4 young bowlers

Zak Didn't have too great a WC. And rest of bowling was as ordinary as now except we now have DInda from somewhere along with Ishant back when we can find better. Who was MOTS mainly for his bowling again ?

[Cevno]

UV was also the best bowler against England in the T20's ffs. Pakistan did well against him in 1 game and now he shouldn't ball. What stupid logic.

[Lord]

Zak Didn't have too great a WC. And rest of bowling was as ordinary as now except we now have DInda from somewhere along with Ishant back when we can find better. Who was MOTS mainly for his bowling again ?

Zak -21 wickets in 9 matches at 18.76 n ER of 4.83.pathetic figures,eh?.Munaf,Bhajji,Ashwin all bowled well too Yuvraj 15 wickets @25 n ER of 5 .He got MOS as an allrounder as he also scored 360 runs @ 90. anyway thats not the point.Yuvraj is okay as bowler.but if I have to play 7 bats,I'll drop one of bowlers like Dinda/Ishant as Jadeja is doing okay as a bowler

[Cevno]

UV as a bowler since 2011 - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=2;spanmin1=01+jan+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 filtered 2011-2013 18 16 110.0 2 564 20 5/31 28.20 5.12 33.0 0 1 Jadeja's record as a bowler since 2011 (Is even worse since 2012) - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=2;spanmin1=01+jan+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 filtered 26 25 213.4 8 1051 32 4/33 32.84 4.91 40.0 1 0 Yes, we should obviously sacrifice a batting slot to bring in Muttiah Jadeja. Such stupidity. It's like playing with 1 less player when there is no need.

[Lord]

UV as a bowler since 2011 - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=2;spanmin1=01+jan+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 filtered 2011-2013 18 16 110.0 2 564 20 5/31 28.20 5.12 33.0 0 1 Jadeja's record as a bowler since 2011 (Is even worse since 2012) - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=2;spanmin1=01+jan+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 filtered 26 25 213.4 8 1051 32 4/33 32.84 4.91 40.0 1 0 Yes, we should obviously sacrifice a batting slot to bring in Muttiah Jadeja. Such stupidity. It's like playing with 1 less player when there is no need.

Jadeja played in tough pitches in Eng/Aus.even Yuvraj has never done well there as a bowler

[Cevno]

Zak -21 wickets in 9 matches at 18.76 n ER of 4.83.pathetic figures,eh?.Munaf,Bhajji,Ashwin all bowled well too Yuvraj 15 wickets @25 n ER of 5 .He got MOS as an allrounder as he also scored 360 runs @ 90. anyway thats not the point.Yuvraj is okay as bowler.but if I have to play 7 bats,I'll drop one of bowlers like Dinda/Ishant as Jadeja is doing okay as a bowler

That's fair enough. But then he is competing against Ashwin for the bowling spot unless we want 30 overs of spin.

[Lord]

That's fair enough. But then he is competing against Ashwin for the bowling spot unless we want 30 overs of spin.

thats why its tough to play 7 bats. although,against England,thats not as bad an option imo

[Cevno]

Jadeja played in tough pitches in Eng/Aus.even Yuvraj has never done well there as a bowler

Yuvraj did well in South Africa in the past 2 years. Ashwin did better in Australia and much better in England. Yuvraj has done OK in England in the past too, but now he is a better bowler. Besides, you are missing the point anyways. Jadeja just doesn't need to be a better bowler than UV to get into the team with his poor batting, but he needs to be a massively better bowler.

[Lord]

Yuvraj did well in South Africa in the past 2 years. Ashwin did better in Australia and much better in England. Yuvraj has done OK in England in the past too, but now he is a better bowler. Besides, you are missing the point anyways. Jadeja just doesn't need to be a better bowler than UV to get into the team with his poor batting, but he needs to be a massively better bowler.

I was talking about the stats u posted,surely if Yuvraj was available,Jadeja wouldnt hv played in Eng/Aus. to me Jadeja just needs to be among the top 5 bowlers to be in team which he is.comparing Yuvraj with him is futile as we need bowling of both

[Cevno]

thats why its tough to play 7 bats. although,against England,thats not as bad an option imo

Yeah, it may not be a bad option depending on conditions. And as for the Bolded, why ? Just drop Jadeja if you don't want to have 30 overs of spin and bring better seamers than Dinda and Ishant in. Shami is already better than Dinda, while Ishant was doing Ok before last match. Even in last match for example If say Jadeja was not there but a batsman was there. Raina was bowling better than him and would have bowled out 10 overs and Yuvraj would have bowled 5/6 overs. Filled in for Dinda and Company.

[King Tendulkar]

Ishant was doing badly yesterday. Raina was doing better than Jadeja. Yet Dhoni kept bowling Ishant didn't use Raina more and Didn't bowl Yuvraj at all.

Thats dhonis dumb captaincy, not jadejas fault

[King Tendulkar]

When dhoni got out yesterday. If anyone thinks crapthan would have seen us home if in jadejas shoes they are in a dream world and have never seen him bat. Yesterday if needed a run ball after dhoni got out then blame jadeja but facts were at the point the game was almost done and a miracle was needed. Y Pathan may have been able to do it. But we would have been changing 20 to 30 runs more anyway cos he bowls pies and fields like frankenstein.

[King Tendulkar]

Jadeja should be pushed up the order and made to bat at 5, just to see how he bats when there is more time. If he can even score at strike rate of 80, there are enough batsmen like Dhoni, Raina to strike out at the end. He could be more utilized that way than having to slog against faster bowlers which doesnt seem to be his strength. After all, we are talking about someone who scored 3 triple centuries in domestic cricket. :P

Dont agree. keep him at 8 and he will have odd good moment and contribute like last game against pak. If comes in and needs run a ball to win jadeja is capable of seeing us home. 8 or 9 an over then only a miracle knock from top batsman can do it, jadeja cant do that. yesterday it was so high even dhoni floundered

[Cevno]

I was talking about the stats u posted,surely if Yuvraj was available,Jadeja wouldnt hv played in Eng/Aus. to me Jadeja just needs to be among the top 5 bowlers to be in team which he is.comparing Yuvraj with him is futile as we need bowling of both

Then you are saying that we should either have 30 overs of spin or play him ahead of Ashwin. Ideally, that number 7 should be filled by a batting all rounder who can bowl and be a decent attacking batsman. Otherwise we have Yuvraj/Raina anyway. Kohli can bowl a few in seaming conditions.

[vijay50]

Only one out of Jadeja or Ashwin can play.And not to mention the seam bowlers are more useless.

[Number]

When dhoni got out yesterday. If anyone thinks crapthan would have seen us home if in jadejas shoes they are in a dream world and have never seen him bat. Yesterday if needed a run ball after dhoni got out then blame jadeja but facts were at the point the game was almost done and a miracle was needed. Y Pathan may have been able to do it. But we would have been changing 20 to 30 runs more anyway cos he bowls pies and fields like frankenstein.

Sachin left us 19 off 17 balls and 3 wickets after his 175 knock. Jadeja couldn't put bat on the ball under pressure and kept running like a retard, got run out eventually. Other tailenders looked better than him.

[Lord]

Yeah, it may not be a bad option depending on conditions. And as for the Bolded, why ? Just drop Jadeja if you don't want to have 30 overs of spin and bring better seamers than Dinda and Ishant in. Shami is already better than Dinda, while Ishant was doing Ok before last match. Even in last match for example If say Jadeja was not there but a batsman was there. Raina was bowling better than him and would have bowled out 10 overs and Yuvraj would have bowled 5/6 overs. Filled in for Dinda and Company.

its not about not wanting 30 overs of spin.I want as many bowling options as options.last game Jadeja bowled from the 12th over n bowled in the end at KP,u seiously think Raina could've done well there?Yuvraj would hv been required to bowl more overs too.also unlike Yuvraj,Raina is very iunreliable as a bowler.just had a good day testerday I like the combo of 6 bats+Jadeja/Irfan+4 bowlers.but we need to find better batsmen n bowlers.yesterday we didnt lose bcoz of lack of 7th batsman,but last overs of England innings n no one of top 6 carrying on for long

[NareshK]

Dont agree. keep him at 8 and he will have odd good moment and contribute like last game against pak. If comes in and needs run a ball to win jadeja is capable of seeing us home. 8 or 9 an over then only a miracle knock from top batsman can do it, jadeja cant do that. yesterday it was so high even dhoni floundered

Jadeja needs time to score runs. He has never looked comfortable when he tried to slog pace bowlers. All his fifty plus scores have come at 75 or less strike rate. I think he can bat before Raina because Raina doesnt seem to like being an accumulator. He is more of an attacking batsman, likes to score boundaries and likes the role of a finisher. Many times, he gets out by trying to play too defensively. I would rather see Jadeja play the batsman who builds a partnership in the middle, so Raina and Dhoni can play freely at the end. We are seeing Raina and Dhoni too quickly in the innings in the last few ODIs, so Jadeja could be pushed up just to anchor the innings. He is not good in the death overs anyway.