express bowling Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Varun can swing the ball both ways as was evident in the recently concluded Irani Trophy. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Varun , Umesh are friends , let them be in the squad learn , grow, compete together, Varun has g8 seam postion , can swing , reverse,ALSO SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEAM.Aaron a bit faster then Umesh though, with a lethal short ball, it is a learning curve for these two , let us see how they progress Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Varun ' date=' Umesh are friends , let them be in the squad learn , grow, [b']compete together, Varun has g8 seam postion , can swing , reverse,ALSO SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEAM.Aaron a bit faster then Umesh though, with a lethal short ball, it is a learning curve for these two , let us see how they progress Good point. This maybe the solution to them not losing pace, especially if Umesh keeps taking wickets at pace and is choosen in the playing 11. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Good point. This maybe the solution to them not losing pace' date=' especially if Umesh keeps taking wickets at pace and is choosen in the playing 11.[/quote'] I am excited about the talent we have at present with faster bowlers, spinners, batsmen.IT IS UPTO THE SELECTOR'S AND CAPTAIN TO SEE THAT IT IS NOT WASTED , the team can form a formidable bench and compete to be strong and not rely on 6 players forming the core.I hope we learn the lesson's from England tour, as u see the Aussies , Poms are gaining ground, SA is loosing on the quota system though not a bad team. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I am excited about the talent we have at present with faster bowlers' date=' spinners, batsmen.IT IS UPTO THE SELECTOR'S AND CAPTAIN TO SEE THAT IT IS NOT WASTED , the team can form a formidable bench and compete to be strong and not rely on 6 players forming the core.I hope we learn the lesson's from England tour, as u see the Aussies , Poms are gaining ground, SA is loosing on the quota system though not a bad team.[/quote'] The right type of new players must be choosen. Pacers with deccent pace and some movement, spinners with spin including top spin ... preferably the wrong-uns as well and batsmen who can play both on the front foot as well as the back foot ( for test batsmen ) so that they can handle the swinging as well as bouncing ball. The Indian selectors often choose the wrong type of players. Link to comment
daryl1985 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Varun can swing the ball both ways as was evident in the recently concluded Irani Trophy. Wow, if he can swing the ball BOTH ways then he is surely our best prospect. Link to comment
nanda14792 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 no doubt he has bowled brilliantly but ithink varun aaron should be given a chance.....it is very imp for india to find new ball partner for zaheer before aus series Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 What happens if MUnaf Musa Patel returns for WI series? Will Yadav be benched for Munaf or Vinay will be benched? Though we have seen that Munaf is a stock bowler who contains while Yadav showed that he can break partnership in middle overs which we have been lacking in the absence of Zak. Link to comment
Cricket Tragic Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 What happens if MUnaf Musa Patel returns for WI series? Will Yadav be benched for Munaf or Vinay will be benched? Though we have seen that Munaf is a stock bowler who contains while Yadav showed that he can break partnership in middle overs which we have been lacking in the absence of Zak. He has the opportunity to cement his place in the starting 11 by outperforming Kooomar. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 He has the opportunity to cement his place in the starting 11 by outperforming Kooomar. But is it necessary to pick Munaf in the eleven when he does not bring anything to the table. It will again make our attack one dimensional. Link to comment
Cricket Tragic Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 But is it necessary to pick Munaf in the eleven when he does not bring anything to the table. It will again make our attack one dimensional. Cannot answer that without being biased because I'm a Munaf fanboy. :isalute: Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Cannot answer that without being biased because I'm a Munaf fanboy. :isalute: I was when he debuted but not now. I tell what problem I have with Munaf. It is not speed which is a problem. It is his seam position. For a line and length bowler, he has scrambled seam, not upright which is a weakness as he does not get much swing or seam due to this reason. He also gets less bounce as ball does not hit the seam. His seam was never that good, but he was quicker when he debuted so pace and accuracy compensated for lack of good seam, but as pace gone and he tried to become Indian McGrath, he forgot to improve his seam position which was McGrath's biggest asset. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Cannot answer that without being biased because I'm a Munaf fanboy. :isalute: What do you like him for ? His smile ? :cantstop: Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I was when he debuted but not now. I tell what problem I have with Munaf. It is not speed which is a problem. It is his seam position. For a line and length bowler, he has scrambled seam, not upright which is a weakness as he does not get much swing or seam due to this reason. He also gets less bounce as ball does not hit the seam. His seam was never that good, but he was quicker when he debuted so pace and accuracy compensated for lack of good seam, but as pace gone and he tried to become Indian McGrath, he forgot to improve his seam position which was McGrath's biggest asset. Very good analysis. Bowlers who try to emulate McGrath and people who analyze McGrath, stating that he was not express, forget that he had a superb seam position and got seam movement and steep bounce almost always. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Competition hotting up in the medium-pace/pace department in the Indian team..This will keep all of them on the toes and work hard..Good for the Indian bowling future.. Looks like time is ripe for me to unleash Rehan to the Indian cricketing fraternity ;p ! Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Looks like time is ripe for me to unleash Rehan to the Indian cricketing fraternity ;p ! yes...:two_thumbs_up: Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 yes...:two_thumbs_up: :winky::winky: RKT bhai, apart from cricket, is that signature of yours for some girl??? Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 :winky::winky: RKT bhai, apart from cricket, is that signature of yours for some girl??? yes Link to comment
daryl1985 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Very good analysis. Bowlers who try to emulate McGrath and people who analyze McGrath' date=' stating that he was not express, forget that he had a superb seam position and got seam movement and steep bounce almost always.[/quote'] McGrath the greatest bowler i have seen since i started following cricket in 99! Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 McGrath the greatest bowler i have seen since i started following cricket in 99! Apart from fast-medium pace, steep bounce from 6'5" height, superb seam position and seam movement and pinpoint accuracy frrom close to the stumps -- Mcgrath was a very intelligent bowler who planned and executed his dismissals to perfection. Supposedly he had a superb memory and could remember the way he had dismissed every batman he had ever bowled to. Intelligent bowlers like McGrath and Kumble are a rare and special breed. Link to comment
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