Vijay.Sharma Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Long time ago' date=' same was at German Backery in pune. That board actually read "Indians and Dogs" not allowed. Somebody bombed it recently, not for that reason though.[/quote']Not German Bakery...the sign was at Prem's
Vijay.Sharma Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Don't you feel you need to report this ???+ infinity! Seriously Sree, you must report this! However I don't think it is true because there were many Indians staying as guests at teh Taj during 26/11 and the Indian team also stays at the Taj when they have a game in Mumbai
Vijay.Sharma Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Report to whom? Who cares? System discrimination happens on every level in India, this is just another joint in the mix.If you are witness to discrimination then it becomes necessary for you to stand up against it, don't ya think?
Mariyam Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Report to whom? Who cares? System discrimination happens on every level in India, this is just another joint in the mix. Sorry Sree, don't mean to be rude to you, coz I like you as a poster. But this is a truly pathetic response. USA has one of the highest homicide rates in the world. So, will it be OK if a tourist from that country is killed while on a vacation? Would you still say: Report to whom? Who cares? Systematic/ Serial ( and non systemic) murder is quite prevalent in the US, this is just another joint in the mix. The true value of civilization in a society is how it treats its guests, tourists, minorities and underprivileged ones/weaker sections of the society. And how equitable it is in applying the law of the land to everyone there, without considerations on the persons race/religion/gender etc.
Mariyam Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 UK has laws against refusing entry to people on religious and racial grounds. Mariyam, does India have any law like that too? Not sure I understand you right. You mean entry laws for a service or for a religious place? The UK debars people from certain services based on their ethnic/religious background? Comes as a rude shock to me. I thought such retarded practices were only limited to Saudi Arabia. From what I know, you cannot deny a service to a person based on his religious/ethnic backgrounds. But this practice is very prevalent in India, not openly though. For eg, Last year, in Dec 2010, me and a few friends had gone to Udaipur ( lovely place :heart) and booked 4 rooms in advance for 4 days. On the 4th day, we wanted to extend our stay by 2 days and they refused citing lack of place. But we had seen their registers and knew that wasn't the case. And they did give those rooms to some goras eventually. Thats how its generally done. Subtly. But we did create a scene and give them hell ( don't ask what). :D You can weed out people by putting dress codes, and what not as entry parameters, but you cannot refuse entry based on ethnicity. However, there are some exceptions to this rule. Some items that exit Duty free customers can buy cannot be purchased by Indians. But these exceptions are few and far in between.
rahulrulezz Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Agree with Mariyam. This is totally pathetic n cowardly of the OP n some posters to find it funny. If something like this happens to me or I see it happening in front of me where someone treats me badly for my roots, I would actually break their jaw
akshayxyz Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 @Maryam As per the law - isn't it well within the rights of private businesses, whom they want to allow on their property?
ganeshran Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Not sure I understand you right. You mean entry laws for a service or for a religious place? The UK debars people from certain services based on their ethnic/religious background? Comes as a rude shock to me. I thought such retarded practices were only limited to Saudi Arabia. I think you got me wrong. I meant the UK has laws which prohibit businesses from refusing entry to people on religious/ethnic/sexuality grounds. This case comes to mind http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8266097/Gay-couple-awarded-damages-after-Christian-hotel-owners-refused-to-let-them-share-double-room.html Does India have similar laws
Mariyam Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 @Maryam As per the law - isn't it well within the rights of private businesses, whom they want to allow on their property? You are mixing the two cases. For eg: Akshayxyz is the owner of big industrial conglomeration. His headquartered in central Bangalore and his HQ building has a 5 acre lawn attached. Ganeshran and his family come to the lawn ( private premises) and are allowed to camp/picnic there. A few moments later, Mariyam arrives at the same place and wants to take a stroll in the garden and is denied permission. When she raises a stink, Akshayxyz comes down and tells her that its a private premises and she is not being let in on account of her vastly superior sense of humour. Here Akshayxyz, can discriminate, ( although it is still vastly unethical) as no one is paying for a service. When it comes to paying for a service, you can't discriminate. Unless you cite valid reasons and get appropriate licenses in the beginning. (mainly dietary/religious reasons which aren't applicable to most businesses.) In fact people have tried to defame ( and failed) a famous Delhi 5 star citing discrimination as a reason. " Oh , I'm a Hindu/Muslim/Sikh and the mgmt doesn't want me here so they ordered me out", where the truth was that he sat in the restaurant and chatted away with his girlfriend for 3 hours and ordered just tea. @ Ganeshran: post #45 answers your question.
akshayxyz Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 ^ Thanks. Then what is the purpose/meaning of "Rights of Admission reserved"? In what ways it can/cant be exercised - is there a clear enough definition w/o mixing the racial/gender/... discrimination clauses. As in, if one is denied admission selectively, is the owner liable to provide explanation? If so, is it clearly defined which are/are not acceptable explanations.
Mariyam Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 ^ Thanks. Then what is the purpose/meaning of "Rights of Admission reserved"? In what ways it can/cant be exercised - is there a clear enough definition w/o mixing the racial/gender/... discrimination clauses. As in, if one is denied admission selectively, is the owner liable to provide explanation? If so, is it clearly defined which are/are not acceptable explanations. RoAR is a hospitality centric disclaimer, not for businesses and other services. Its function is not to be discriminatory, but to maintain the decorum of the place. In most of the cases, the denial is due to attire or previous conduct which you will be told of right away. Or sometimes due to reasons like a bunch of stags wanting entry into a club in which most people inside are couples. Or things like that. Even RoAR cannot be used as a tool to disguise some kind of a racist/ethnic policy.
EnterTheVoid Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 If you want to take action against the place, I can pass on the name of the hotel. Rahulrulez, be a hero some other day you tool. Sure you will break their jaw, what kind of a ****ing knob are you?
EnterTheVoid Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 The true value of civilization in a society is how it treats its guests' date=' tourists, minorities and underprivileged ones/weaker sections of the society. And how equitable it is in applying the law of the land to everyone there, without considerations on the persons race/religion/gender etc.[/quote'] I saw some of the worst discrimination in Mumbai. Not letting in a few Indians to a hotel pales in comparison to that.
Stuge Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Agree with Mariyam. This is totally pathetic n cowardly of the OP n some posters to find it funny. If something like this happens to me or I see it happening in front of me where someone treats me badly for my roots' date='[b'] I would actually break their jaw your avatar say so too ? are you boxer or something ?
rahulrulezz Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 If you want to take action against the place, I can pass on the name of the hotel. Rahulrulez, be a hero some other day you tool. Sure you will break their jaw, what kind of a ****ing knob are you? u fkcing chashmoo..sun meri baat..u dont fkcin abuse me ok?
rahulrulezz Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I saw some of the worst discrimination in Mumbai. Not letting in a few Indians to a hotel pales in comparison to that. or haan fattu***d... if I see read somewhere that 'Indian not allowed', I will ***in make sure to find the owner or let the proper police authorities know... i won't fkin smile and find it funny.... here is ur effin quote "As for the place, I can personally vouch for it. Its party central. Just don't go in there with the passports mentioned above" the last thing I would do is help them financially by using fake id... have some shame...nw go wash ur face and check it in mirror.. u r effin Indian, not australian.. dont know how the fkc u find it funny n tellin others to visit this place ..
punjabi_khota Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Rahul is gonna punch him through the monitor.... ..abbe galti se apni screen mat tod liyo
Stuge Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Rahul is gonna punch him through the monitor.... ..abbe galti se apni screen mat tod liyo India vs OZ well before India tours australia :nervous:
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